Making Love Podcast

Being Human Together

Making Love Podcast is where we get real about relationships — the joy, the mess, the growth — and explore what it truly means to be human, together. dreaminginunison.substack.com

  1. Truth: Staying With What Is

    JAN 12

    Truth: Staying With What Is

    In this fifth episode of Making Love, Eva and John enter the territory of Truth — a space of honest reflection, grounding, and clear seeing. As the energy of action settles, Truth asks a different kind of courage: to look back at what has been created and to meet it without distortion. Like autumn shedding its leaves, this territory reveals the underlying structures — the patterns, limits, and shadows that were previously hidden beneath movement. Eva and John explore Truth not as harsh judgment or brutal honesty, but as a compassionate, embodied practice. They speak to the risk of this territory — turning against ourselves or refusing to look at all — and to its deeper gift: integrity. The capacity to see clearly and act from what is true rather than what is comfortable. The conversation unfolds through three movements. First, Loving What Is — pausing to see honestly while holding ourselves with care, allowing acceptance to soften into forgiveness. Then, Accountability — turning toward what has been avoided, tending unfinished business, composting what no longer serves so that new life can emerge. Finally, Perspective— stepping back into a wider horizon, recognizing the narrow lenses we’ve been using, and discovering that there are many ways of seeing. Throughout the episode, Truth is revealed as a descending energy — one that grounds us, clarifies our next steps, and brings coherence between desire, will, and lived reality. When we dare to look with honesty and compassion, Truth becomes not an ending, but a threshold. Truth is a third core pillar of the Embodied Leadership journey, a year-long initiation into living, relating, and leading from what is real, facilitated by Dreaming in Unison. To learn more about the journey, visit the link below: https://www.dreaminginunison.org/12-month This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dreaminginunison.substack.com

    49 min
  2. Will

    2025-12-23

    Will

    In this fourth episode of Making Love, Eva and John explore the theme of Will — not as force or grit, but as a living, embodied capacity. Desire may show us what we want, but will is what carries us across the distance between vision and reality. This is the space where many dreams quietly fade — not because they weren’t real, but because staying with something over time asks more of us than enthusiasm alone. Together, Eva and John reflect on will as sustained commitment rather than pressure. They unpack the difference between willpower — the mind forcing behavior — and true will, which arises when our actions are rooted in authentic desire. When we are genuinely connected to what matters, effort no longer feels like self-violence; it becomes devotion. This conversation moves into the body: how will lives in our nervous system, our rhythms of energy and rest, our ability to stay present with discomfort without needing to escape or push through it. Will, here, is learned slowly — through returning again and again, through building structures that support our intentions, and through discovering that we can stay even when the path is unclear. Eva and John also name the shadow of will in modern culture: relentless busyness. The compulsion to keep doing, producing, and striving — not because it’s aligned, but because stopping would mean facing ourselves. Embodied will, they suggest, knows when to act and when to rest. It can be satisfied. It can celebrate what has been built. This episode invites a redefinition of strength — one rooted in presence, honesty, and the quiet power of staying. Will is the second pillar of the Embodied Leadership journey, a 12-month path beginning in February with Dreaming in Unison. To learn more about the journey, visit the link below. https://www.dreaminginunison.org/12-month This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dreaminginunison.substack.com

    35 min
  3. You probably don't know your desires...

    2025-12-06

    You probably don't know your desires...

    So many of us move through life without ever truly asking ourselves a simple but life-shaping question: What do I actually desire? What do I truly want? In our recent gathering, a friend reflected that this question had never been asked inside of him — not honestly, not from the depth of his own being. And this is so common. Because most of us inherit “desires” shaped by our family, our culture, our environment… Dreams that were handed to us, not born from us. Expectations that became internal laws. Desires that are really strategies for belonging, safety, or approval. To touch our authentic desire is not instant. It’s a process of unlearning… of digging, shedding, listening… of peeling back the layers of who we were told to be so that who we are can speak. True desire is quiet at first — a pulse beneath the noise. But once we meet it… everything changes. In this week’s episode of Making Love, we explore this theme in depth — why desire is the first pillar of our 12-month Embodied Leadership Program, and why knowing what you truly want is the foundation for living a life rooted in truth, alignment, and soul. If you feel curious: Learn more about the Embodied Leadership Program beginning this February: https://www.dreaminginunison.org/12-month This journey begins with one question: What is your true desire? Listen to the full episode on Substack: https://substack.com/@dreaminginunison/p-180864705 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dreaminginunison.substack.com

    1 min
  4. Embodied Leadership

    2025-11-28

    Embodied Leadership

    Eva and John dive into one of the core themes of their life’s work: embodied leadership. Together, they explore what it truly means to lead, not from personality or performance, but from the grounded intelligence of the body. They unravel the misconceptions around leadership—how it’s often confused with authority, charisma, or productivity—and look instead through a new lens: leadership as a lived, embodied practice. Along the way, they reflect on their own paths, how embodiment became the foundation of their work, and why they believe leadership rooted in the body is essential for this moment in time. This conversation also opens a window into a creation they’ve been shaping quietly for years: a 12-month Embodied Leadership Program that brings together the tools, frameworks, and wisdom gathered from their individual journeys. Launching February 1st, 2026, it marks the beginning of a first cohort who will become an integral part of the Dreaming in Unison community. The episode is both an intimate exploration and an invitation—an opportunity to feel into what embodied leadership might mean for your own life, and to walk alongside Eva and John as they share the work that moves them most. If you want to learn more about the Embodied Leadership Program offering visit: https://www.dreaminginunison.org/12-month This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dreaminginunison.substack.com

    48 min
  5. The Dream Takes Form

    2025-11-06

    The Dream Takes Form

    We’ve just returned from Peru after A Living Prayer — our 10-Day Rite of Passage in the Amazonian jungle — hosted by Dreaming in Unison, and my heart is overflowing with gratitude. This was not an easy path. It was deep, raw, and revealing — asking each of us to face the shadows and the parts we often hide from light. Yet every single soul who came said yes — with their bodies, their voices, their prayers, and with the medicines of the jungle. I feel immense gratitude for their courage and for the healing we shared together. This journey was guided by our Dreaming in Unison team with love and devotion: myself, John, Natasha — alongside our dear Shipibo maestros, Lottie and Eusebio, who held the medicine space with such grace. Thank you to JahSelva Center for hosting us in their beautiful home on the edge of the jungle. We also worked with Kambo, one of my closest allies. Though its purifications were intense and humbling, by the end many returned to it — meeting the medicine with new understanding and a deep respect for its gifts. All of this unfolded under the eclipse and autumn equinox, making our time together feel like more than personal healing — it felt like collective work. Work for the Earth, for love, and for remembering our shared humanity and most importantly how much embodiment matters. When it was time to say goodbye, I could see the transformations reflected in everyone’s faces and bodies — the trust, the gratitude, the quiet strength. What we shared feels like a seed that will continue to grow, rippling far beyond the jungle. As the very first of its kind — not a retreat, but a Rite of Passage — this gathering also marks the true birth of our Dreaming in Unison community. Those who came are now part of a living web, walking their own paths while staying connected in heart, co-creating beauty in the world. And while we were in Peru, something else came fully into being — the official landing of our Dreaming in Unison website and the unfolding of all our offerings. After years of tending this vision, it’s finally taking form — a space where everything we’ve practiced, dreamed, and lived can now be shared with the world. This is just the beginning.We keep following the path — knowing everything will unfold in divine timing: new projects, circles, and ways to walk this living prayer together. With love, gratitude, and light,Eva To visit our new website click here. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit dreaminginunison.substack.com

    2 min

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Making Love Podcast is where we get real about relationships — the joy, the mess, the growth — and explore what it truly means to be human, together. dreaminginunison.substack.com