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Naked Age is a nudist history podcast series exploring uncommon stories of unique people going to extraordinary lengths to live a nude life. It's an interview series profiling activists, artists, individualists and misfits. http://nakedage.com
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Generations of Rock Lodge
In this episode, we’ll meet Barry, a lifelong member of one of America's oldest nudist clubs: Rock Lodge, a man whose personal nudist story intersects with the history of that great club. Plus, the “big bang” of American nudism. Enjoy!
Rock Lodge Club
Official website https://www.rocklodge.com/ Twitter https://twitter.com/RockLodgeClub Instagram: https://instagram.com/rocklodgeclub Facebook https://www.facebook.com/rocklodgeclub Research made possible by
Dorothy Coleman - https://rocklodge.com/ Naturist Education Foundation Research Library - https://naturisteducation.org/programs/nefrl/ American Nudist Research Library - http://ANRL.org Western Nudist Research Library - http://WNRL.org Historical Excerpts Voiced by
Winn Manning Priscilla Hagen David Lennick This episode of Naked Age was supported in part by an AANR Education Foundation Sponsorship Grant. Learn more about AANR-EF’s mission and make a donation at http://aanr-ef.com
Support Naked Age by becoming a paid member of our substack newsletter Planet Nude. Your membership there supports this podcast. http://planetnude.co
Listen to all episodes of Naked Age at http://nakedage.co
Music:
1969 Moonwalk (ID 1261) by Lobo Loco, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/Mr_Tachyon/1969_Moonwalk_ID_1261
Sailing Away by HoliznaCC0, licensed under a Creative Commons Universal 0.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/holiznacc0/orphaned-media-pt-2/sailing-away/
Arround the Village (ID 1183) by Lobo Loco, Licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/Good_Old_Organ_Ice/Arround_the_Village_ID_1183
You Best Boogie by Ketsa, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC). Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Ketsa/1000/you-best-boogie/
Swinging Sofas (ID 272) by Lobo Loco, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/My_FAVORITE_SWEET_HOME_TRACKS/Lobo_Loco_-_06_-_Swinging_Sofas
Moonlight Beach Yami (ID 150) - Remastered by Lobo Loco, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/my-favorite-jazz-lounge-compilation-remastered/moonlight-beach-yami-id-150-remastered
Another Elysium (ID 1811) by Lobo Loco, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/tree-spirits-meditation/another-elysium-id-1811/
Deep Friendship (ID 1893) by Lobo Loco, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/cigarbox/deep-friendship-id-1893/
Les Portes Du Futur by Bill Vortex, licensed with a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bill_Vortex/Vortex_Des_Reformes/14_-_Les_Portes_Du_Futur/
Flam Out by Ketsa, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC). Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Ketsa/1000/flam-out/
Wohin by 1st Contact, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/1st-contact/single/wohin/
Jazzy Reel by M33 Project, licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/m33-project/bluesy-jazzy/jazzy-reel/
A little better by Alex Figueira, licensed under a Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License. Source -
The Mother and Father of Haulover
In this episode, we’ll meet Shirley and Richard Mason, two pioneers of the US beach movement who created the model for launching a legal nude beach, when they boldly established residency on Florida’s popular Haulover Beach. Plus, a brief history of nude beaches in “puritan besmirched” America. Enjoy!
South Florida Free Beaches
Official website https://sffb.com/ Twitter https://twitter.com/SFFB_FNA Facebook https://www.facebook.com/southfloridafreebeaches B.E.A.C.H.E.S. Foundation
Official website https://www.beachesfoundation.org/ Twitter https://twitter.com/BEACHESFound Treasure Coast Naturists
Official website https://www.treasurecoastnaturists.org/ Twitter https://twitter.com/search?q=blind%20creek%20beach Facebook https://www.facebook.com/TreasureCoastNaturists The Naturist Action Committee
Official Website https://naturistaction.org/ Research made possible by
Shannon Lewis - https://nudeforthought.com/ Naturist Education Foundation Research Library - https://naturisteducation.org/programs/nefrl/ American Nudist Research Library - http://ANRL.org Western Nudist Research Library - http://WNRL.org This episode of Naked Age was supported in part by an AANR Education Foundation Sponsorship Grant. Learn more about AANR-EF’s mission and make a donation at http://aanr-ef.com
Listen to all episodes of Naked Age at http://nakedage.co
© 2022 Naked Age. This podcast is released under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License, which permits not for profit distribution and reproduction of this podcast (such as educational classroom and personal uses), provided the original creator and source are credited. The license does not allow alterations of the underlying work beyond that permitted by fair use without additional permission from the creator. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/.
Clips:
Title: Nude bathing in Jacob RiIs Park, New York
Source: AP Archive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az_4CT4Pvk0
Title: OC in Two: Nudist rally planned at San Onofre State Beach - 2009-09-10
Source: Orange County Register
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDey_PTI1vk
Title: Local News Segment "Topless Sunbathing on Miami Beach" '90's
Source: WPLG Local 10 | Miami News; uploaded by Siresounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlN-LzjmWw8
Title: Cuba: The Mariel Boatlift - Crime Wave (1980’s)
Source: Uploaded by Mobfax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwuuAplCSpc&t=26s
Title: Oral Argument, Feb 26th 1975; Opinion Announcement, Jun 23rd, 1975.
Source: Justia Supreme Court Center
https://www.oyez.org/cases/1974/73-1942
Title: Civil Rights Act Of 1964
Source: AP Archive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQjNESlx5Zc
Music:
My Talking Drum of Quercy by Jean Toba, Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/jean-toba/a-land-where-the-poets-dream/my-talking-drum-of-quercy/
Life’s Rhythms by Ketsa, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC)
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/independent-music-licensing-collective-imlc/new-launch-by-ketsa/lifes-rhythms/
Sleep by Bio Unit, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bio_Unit/float/sleep-1/
Paris Gipsy Swing by Dieter van der Westen, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/dieter-van-der-westen/berlin-to-bamako/paris-gipsy-swing/
Les Portes Du Futur by Bill Vortex, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bill_Vortex/Vortex_Des_Reformes/14_-_Les_Portes_Du_Futur/
After You by Ketsa, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC)
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North American Nudist Pioneers
This episode of Naked Age explores the parallel paths of two nudist pioneers whose stories take place over seventy years apart. First we look at Ray Connett, an influential figure of early Canadian nudism who helped establish that country’s first national nudist organization. Then we meet Gerardo Cisneros, a Mexican nudism advocate whose hard work and clever initiative has helped bring a budding Mexican nudist movement into full bloom.
Gerardo Cisneros
Twitter https://twitter.com/gcs_nudista The Nudist Federation of Mexico
Official website https://www.fednudmex.org Twitter https://twitter.com/FedNudistaMx Facebook https://www.facebook.com/fednudmex The Zipolite Nudist Festival
Twitter https://twitter.com/FZipolite Facebook https://www.facebook.com/festivalzipolit Research made possible by
American Nudist Research Library - http://ANRL.org Western Nudist Research Library - http://WNRL.org This episode of Naked Age was supported in part by an AANR Education Foundation Sponsorship Grant. The AANR Education Foundation is a charitable partner of the American Association for Nude Recreation, providing grants and scholarships to organizations and individuals that support the Foundations goals and objectives, which are to educate the public about the values and benefits of nude recreation, and to ensure an understanding of nudism and its rightful status as a social and recreational practice. Learn more about AANR-EF’s mission and make a donation at http://aanr-ef.com
(Episode originally published July 13, 2022)
Listen to all episodes of Naked Age at http://nakedage.co
© 2022 Naked Age. This podcast is released under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License, which permits not for profit distribution and reproduction of this podcast (such as educational classroom and personal uses), provided the original creator and source are credited. The license does not allow alterations of the underlying work beyond that permitted by fair use without additional permission from the creator. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/.
Clips:
This Nude World, Crown Pictures/Monogram Pictures Corp., USA, 1933. 62 min. Excerpt: 00:01:46-00:01:55. Ray Connett on Phil Donahue, 1994; YouTube. Uploaded by Bare Oaks Family Naturist Park https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB6dUj1popQ Stéphane Dechênes, from the New Nudist Podcast “Ep22: Stéphane & Evan, Plus Will Forrest on His Nudist Pirate Novel ‘Skinners’” (Jun. 2022) - Courtesy of Scott Cline Ray Connett Early Canadian Nudist History (1983) - Courtesy of American Nudist Research Library Gerardo Cisneros personal interview, May 5 2022.
Music:
My Talking Drum of Quercy by Jean Toba, Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/jean-toba/a-land-where-the-poets-dream/my-talking-drum-of-quercy/
After You by Ketsa, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC)
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Ketsa/equinox-rising/after-you/
Let’s Do This Tonight by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/afterwork/lets-do-this-tonight-id-1651/
Blue Mountains by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/afterwork/blue-mountains-id-1669/
Searching for Wilderness by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/sky-watch/searching-for-wilderness-id-1693/
Speedy Delta by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/afterwork/speedy-delta-id-1670/
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Transgender Woman Extraordinaire
In this episode of Naked Age we meet Marie Willa Bobo-Smith, a transgender nudist whose top free activism and public nudism make her make her a trailblazer for trans visibility. Plus, we explore intersections between nudist and trans history and look at the history of single men policies in nudist clubs.
Links to Marie Willa:
• Marie Willa on Twitter https://twitter.com/Marie_W_B_Smith
• Marie Willa on TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@misswilla
• Marie Willa on Checkin https://checkin.coach/marie-willa
• Marie Willa on MeWe https://mewe.com/i/moebobo-smith
Resources for supporting transgender rights:
• National Center for Transgender Equality https://transequality.org/
• The Trevor Project https://www.thetrevorproject.org/
• GLAAD https://www.glaad.org/
• Trans Lifeline https://translifeline.org/
• Human Rights Campaign https://www.hrc.org/
• What You Need To Know About The Equality Act https://www.americanprogress.org/article/need-know-equality-act/
• H.R.5 - Equality Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/5
(This episode was originally published on March 30, 2022)
Listen to all episodes of Naked Age at http://nakedage.co
© 2022 Naked Age. This podcast is released under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License, which permits not for profit distribution and reproduction of this podcast (such as educational classroom and personal uses), provided the original creator and source are credited. The license does not allow alterations of the underlying work beyond that permitted by fair use without additional permission from the creator. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/.
Clips:
Diary of a Nudist (1961) “Discrimination Against Single Nudists”; Letter to the editor by Rudolph Johnson; Sunshine & Health; Mar. 1947. Excerpt voiced by Timothy Branson, 2022. “NC Lawmakers May Repeal Transgender Bathroom Law”; AP News; Youtube, Dec 21, 2016. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=987zoHeH-XM]
Research Resources
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Roth-4358 https://zagria.blogspot.com/search?q=zelda+suplee#.Yga0x-7MLaU https://mendovoice.com/2021/06/coast-activist-march-for-topless-equality-in-fort-bragg/ https://medium.com/empowered-trans-woman/trans-folks-the-road-less-traveled-979dbb9bfb3d https://www.wpath.org/about/history/international-symposia “Transgender History” by Susan Stryker “Beyond the Gender Binary” by Alok Vaid-Menon “Going to Trinidad” by Martin J. Smith
Music was sourced from the Free Music Archive:
The Get Away by Mr. Smith, Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/mr-smith/studio-city/the-get-away
Parallel by Metre, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Metre/infraction/parallel
Trapper John by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/candle-for-you/trapper-john-id-1584
Les Portes Du Futur by Bill Vortex, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bill_Vortex/Vortex_Des_Reformes/14_-_Les_Portes_Du_Futur
Saturn by Ketsa, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC)
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Ketsa/vitality/saturn
Lost Satellite Seeks Home by Studio Noir, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Studio_Noir/Singsongs_For_You_The_Moon/08_Lost_Satellite_Seeks_Home
Mizar Mizar (feat. Wankers United) by Bill Vortex, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bill_Vortex/Vor -
Jérôme Naturel
In this episode of Naked Age we meet Jérôme Jolibois, a Belgian naturist and avid cyclist whose naked bike activism paved the lane for him to become the first open naturist elected to the Brussels Town Hall. Plus we explore the convergence of two movements: Nude Activism and Bicycle Activism, and the spark that led to the World Naked Bike Ride.
Links mentioned in the episode:
• Cyclonudista Brussels: http://www.cyclonudista.be/
• WNBR: http://wiki.worldnakedbikeride.org
• Jérôme on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PourquoiPasNu/
• Jérôme on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JeromeNaturel
• Jérôme on Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/50335367@N00/
(Episode originally published February 1, 2022)
Listen to all episodes of Naked Age at http://nakedage.co
Research Resources:
A Brief History of Nakedness, Carr-Gomm, Phillip; The University of Chicago Press Hunt, Steve E., Naked Protest and Radical Cycling, A History of the Journey to the World Naked Bike Ride. https://www.academia.edu/35589138/Naked_Protest_and_Radical_Cycling_A_History_of_the_Journey_to_the_World_Naked_Bike_Ride Interview with Jérôme Jolibois on World Naked Bike Ride Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/wnbr.international/posts/10157432797025833/ “Brussels resident gets naked in a cafe”, Het Belang Van Limburg; Jul 18, 2012. https://www.hbvl.be/cnt/aid1209355 “Naked Cyclists Protest in Brussels”, Nieuwsblad; Jun 15, 2013. https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20130615_00624377
© 2022 Naked Age. This podcast is released under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License, which permits not for profit distribution and reproduction of this podcast (such as educational classroom and personal uses), provided the original creator and source are credited. The license does not allow alterations of the underlying work beyond that permitted by fair use without additional permission from the creator. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/.
Clips:
Lady Godiva Rides Again (1952) “Critical Mass London - June 2015 #CriticalMass”, uploaded by DrMorocho on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_F5DkA501U] “Jérôme Jolibois de Cyclo Nudista dans le Dan Late Show”, uploaded by Le Dan Late Show on YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26ruNvgTE0]
Music Credits:
Heaven by Bio Unit, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bio_Unit/ampex/heaven-1
Flow by Metre, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Metre/flow-1/flow-2/
Les Portes Du Futur by Bill Vortex, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bill_Vortex/Vortex_Des_Reformes/14_-_Les_Portes_Du_Futur
Gypsy by Crowander, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC)
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/crowander/music-of-the-world/gypsy
Peaceful Morning by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/Salad_Mixed/Peaceful_Morning_ID_1229
Deep by Bio Unit, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bio_Unit/resistor/deep-1/
Mi Bolero by Maarten Schellekens, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC)
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/maarten-schellekens/orchestral-works/mi-bolero
Parallel by Metre, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Metre/infraction/parallel/ -
The Most Liberated Woman in America
In this episode of Naked Age we meet Barbara Williamson, a pioneering figure of the sexual revolution frequently referred to as “The Most Liberated Woman in America”.
Links to items mentioned in this episode:
Barbara Williamson’s Website: https://barbarawilliamson.org/
Barbara Williamson’s book, “The Most Liberated Woman in America”: https://barbarawilliamson.org/book/
Sandstone (1975) on IndieFlix: https://watch.indieflix.com/movie/49-gofusyc5tfhn-sandstone
(Episode originally published December 14, 2021)
Listen to all episodes of Naked Age at http://nakedage.co
© 2021 Naked Age. This podcast is released under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License, which permits not for profit distribution and reproduction of this podcast (such as educational classroom and personal uses), provided the original creator and source are credited. The license does not allow alterations of the underlying work beyond that permitted by fair use without additional permission from the creator. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/.
Clips:
Sandstone (1975). Clips used with permission. Special thanks to Jonathan Dana. “1950s Expert Looks At The Coming Sexual Revolution”; Interview with UT Austin Prof. Steven Mintz (1991). Used with permission. Thanks to David and Heidi Hoffman. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LG7mQPnotM] CNN’s The Seventies, Episode 6, “Battle of the Sexes”. [https://www.cnn.com/shows/the-seventies]
Music Credits:
The Fancy and the Talent by Doctor Turtle, Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Doctor_Turtle/the-mountains-dont-care-about-you/the-fancy-and-the-talent
All About the Sun by Quantum Jazz, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Quantum_Jazz/End_of_Line/04_-_Quantum_Jazz_-_All_About_The_Sun/
Humbug by Crowander, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective (IMLC)
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/crowander/from-the-piano-solo-piano/humbug
If I Can’t Dance It’s Not My Revolution by Quantum Jazz, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Quantum_Jazz/End_of_Line/02_-_Quantum_Jazz_-_If_I_Cant_Dance_Its_Not_My_Revolution
Les Portes Du Futur by Bill Vortex, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 4.0 International License
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Bill_Vortex/Vortex_Des_Reformes/14_-_Les_Portes_Du_Futur/
Trapper John by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/candle-for-you/trapper-john-id-1584
Peaceful Morning by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/Salad_Mixed/Peaceful_Morning_ID_1229
See Your Live in Tree Minutes (ID 1558) by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/for-jambo/see-your-live-in-tree-minutes-id-1558
Halls of Truth by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/snowfalls/halls-of-truth-id-1547
Investigation by Devil Music, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Devil_Music_Ensemble/Caligari/investigation
After the Explosion by Lobo Loco, Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 4.0 International License.
Source: https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Lobo_Loco/around/after-the-explosion-id-1298mp3
See The Light (Instrumental) by Lobo Loco, Creativ
Customer Reviews
Intelligent, inciteful, entertaining.
One of the most interesting nudist (or naturist) podcasts. Loved every single episode (listened to them all 2-3 times). Extra kudos to Evan Nicks for episode 8 - thoroughly enjoyed, a great listen.