This week’s episode is a little different. This special conversation was originally recorded for the Addiction Medicine Made Easy podcast with Dr. Casey Grover—an emergency physician, addiction specialist, and passionate advocate for compassionate, evidence-based addiction care. This episode is being released as a feed drop, meaning you'll find it on both podcast feeds to help bring this important conversation to a wider audience. Jeanne wanted to share this interview with the Naturally High community because at its heart is a shared mission: reducing stigma, promoting compassionate care, and helping transform the way we understand addiction and recovery. If you’re new to the Naturally High podcast, welcome! Here we explore emotional sobriety while closing the knowing-doing gap and creating a life you no longer need to escape from. Meaningful change often begins with one person choosing to speak up, advocate, and care deeply. If this conversation resonates with you, we encourage you to also subscribe to Addiction Medicine Made Easy and continue exploring Dr. Casey Grover's work. What you’ll discover in this episode: Why reducing stigma is essential to improving addiction careHow compassionate, evidence-informed conversations create lasting changeThe mission behind Naturally High and emotional sobrietyWhy redesigning your life—not simply stopping a behaviour—is at the heart of sustainable recoveryA reminder that one person can make an extraordinary differenceAbout Dr. Casey Grover Dr. Casey Grover is an emergency physician, addiction medicine specialist, and host of the Addiction Medicine Made Easy podcast. Working daily on the front lines of overdose, withdrawal, and addiction treatment, he is committed to modernizing addiction medicine through education, compassionate care, and reducing stigma for patients and families alike. — Stigma doesn’t just hurt feelings, it changes medical decisions, family dynamics, and whether someone stays in care long enough to recover. That’s why we sat down with Jeanne Foot, founder and CEO of the Recovery Concierge and host of the Naturally High Podcast, for an honest conversation about what stigma against substance use disorders looks like in real life and what we can do differently. We trace stigma from the personal to the systemic: Jeanne’s experience entering recovery in the early 1990s, the shame that follows families when a child is struggling, and the quiet “whispering” that keeps people isolated. We also talk about stigma in healthcare, including how people in alcohol withdrawal or opioid withdrawal can be treated as if they don’t deserve comfort or evidence-based care, even though alcohol detox can be fatal and fentanyl has made relapse risk terrifyingly high. From there, we get practical. We share how compassion and advocacy help clients face judgment without bolting from care, why nervous system regulation tools matter in the hardest moments, and how fundamentals like sleep, nutrition, and movement can support mental health and addiction recovery alongside therapy and medication. We also dig into language, why labels can wound, and why the best recovery plan is the one that fits the person, whether that’s AA, SMART Recovery, peer support, or something unconventional that actually works. If you care about addiction medicine, harm reduction, trauma-informed care, or supporting a loved one, hit play, then subscribe, share with someone who needs it, and leave a review so more people can find the show. To learn about The Recovery Concierge: https://therecoveryconcierge.com/ To check out the Naturally High podcast: https://naturallyhigh.transistor.fm/ To contact Dr. Grover: ammadeeasy@fastmail.com — Contact Jeanne Foot | The Recovery Concierge: TheRecoveryConcierge.comLinkedin: Jeanne FootLinkedIn: The Recovery ConciergeInstagram: The Recovery ConciergeFacebook: The Recovery ConciergeTwitter: @recvryconciergeContact Dr. Casey Grover: addictionmedicinemadeeasy.com