Pixel Retentive Podcast

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This is Pixel Retentive podcast, where Colorful Carl, an Artist and a Business Owner, discusses the art of business and the business of art. Here, we explore the intersection of creativity, business, marketing, and entrepreneurship with some of the leading minds in the space.

  1. 3D AGO

    From Hobby to Hardware: Building CardMill and Bootstrapping a Physical Product with Jonathan Domanus

    In this episode of the Pixel Retentive Podcast, Carl sits down with Jonathan Domanus, founder of CardMill, to explore what it really takes to turn a personal frustration into a funded hardware startup. Jonathan shares how a lifelong love of Magic the Gathering led him to build an automated trading card scanner and sorter after realizing the only existing solutions cost upwards of $10,000. Armed with a Raspberry Pi, LEGO bricks, and a software background, he built a prototype that eventually raised over $2 million on Kickstarter. They dive into the realities of bootstrapping a physical product, managing 5,000 backers, navigating manufacturing shifts, and betting $28,000 of personal ad spend to prove the idea would work. This is a raw, honest look at risk, community building, and what it takes to ship hardware in an unpredictable global economy. Key Topics Discussed Building CardMill from cardboard and LEGO prototypes Raising $2.4M on Kickstarter without VC funding Spending $28K on ads and betting on yourself The power of direct community engagement and Discord Why 63% of Kickstarters fail and how to beat the odds Manufacturing pivots and scaling beyond the original team Locking in factory pricing amid global economic volatility Hardware certification and international shipping challenges Balancing affordability with business sustainability Supporting a startup with the right partners (Beyond Design, DMC Inc., Product Evolution) The importance of having a strong partner in entrepreneurship Guest Links 🌐 CardMill: https://cardmill.com 💬 Join the community on Discord via the website 📩 Contact Jonathan Social Links linktr.ee/cardmill Special Thanks Jonathan also shares a heartfelt shout-out to his wife, Lindsay, whose graphic design expertise, strategic grounding, and unwavering support made CardMill possible. Carl gives a special thanks to Michael Prince of Beyond Design for the introduction and industrial design partnership. If this episode resonated with you, share it with someone who would find value in the conversation. For more conversations at the intersection of creativity, art, and business, visit epicmade.net/podcast. Until next time, ✌️ – Carl

    55 min
  2. APR 30

    Editing the Internet: Early Video, AI, and Midwest Hustle with Justin Johnson ep. 112

    In this episode of the Pixel Retentive Podcast, Carl sits down with Justin Superstar Johnson — Emmy-winning documentary filmmaker, founder of BMP Creative, and creator of the AI-powered editorial tool Spooky Cutter. From editing wedding videos on stacked VHS decks in the late 90s to producing over 2,000 videos annually for Netflix, Justin shares how showing up on time, having a good attitude, and refusing to burn bridges built a 30-year creative career. They dive deep into scaling post-production without losing creative soul, building team culture with intention, and why systems and automation are not the enemy of art — they are what protect it. *]:pointer-events-auto [content-visibility:auto] supports-[content-visibility:auto]:[contain-intrinsic-size:auto_100lvh] R6Vx5W_threadScrollVars scroll-mb-[calc(var(--scroll-root-safe-area-inset-bottom,0px)+var(--thread-response-height))] scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" data-turn-id= "request-697cdde6-cc64-832f-847a-d739ad84892e-0" data-testid= "conversation-turn-108" data-scroll-anchor="false" data-turn= "assistant"> Justin gives a shout out to BMP Creative President Anthony Deptula for helping scale the company with a people-first mindset and strategic clarity. Carl also appreciates Fred Seibert for making the introduction and for continuing to connect great creative minds. Resources Mentioned in This Episode BMP Creative – https://bmpcreative.com Justin Superstar – https://www.bmpcreative.com/about Spooky Cutter – https://spookycutter.com Email Justin directly – justin@bmpcreative.com This episode is brought to you by Epic Made. Epic Made creates memorable animation, digital art, and graphic design to elevate brands. From entertainment campaigns to social content systems, Epic Made helps companies tell stories that resonate with imaginative audiences. If this episode resonated with you, write a review and share it with someone in your creative orbit. For more conversations at the intersection of creativity, art, and business, visit EpicMade.net Until next time, Carl

    53 min
  3. APR 28

    Revolution Thinking: Scaling Creativity Without Selling Out with Tim Thompson ep. 111

    In this episode, Carl sits down with Tim Thompson, Founder and Chief Revolution Thinker at RevThink, to unpack what it really takes to build a sustainable creative business without losing the soul of the work. With nearly 30 years in the industry, Tim shares his journey from going door to door in Burbank to landing three job offers in a single day , to becoming a founding member of Imaginary Forces and later collaborating during the Beeple NFT era. Along the way, he developed frameworks like the Seven Ingredients, the Factors Method, and the Value Pyramid to help creative entrepreneurs scale with clarity. This conversation explores: The difference between commodity, service, strategy, and vision driven businesses Why creative companies are "prima donna" businesses and what that actually means Fame, fortune, and freedom as drivers for creative founders How to mature from selling time to selling influence Technology shifts, AI, and what "future native" creativity might look like Longevity, burnout, and finding purpose beyond the work Tim also shares personal reflections on stepping away from the industry to attend seminary, the importance of perspective, and how creative leaders can embrace change rather than fear it. A special thanks to Shireen Strasberg for originally connecting Carl with RevThink and helping spark this conversation.   Guest Links 🌐 RevThink: https://revthink.com 🤝 Rev Community: https://revthink.com/community ✉️ Connect directly: Tim@RevThink.com If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a creative founder, studio owner, or entrepreneur building their own long game. For more conversations at the intersection of creativity, art, and business, visit  epicmade.net. Until next time, ✌️ – Carl

    1h 2m
  4. APR 21

    From Design Matters to Design Legacy with Debbie Millman ep. 110

    In this episode of the Pixel Retentive Podcast, Carl sits down with Debbie Millman — designer, author of eight books, educator, branding expert, and host of the legendary Design Matters podcast — for a deeply honest conversation about mastery, reinvention, and building a creative life that lasts. With over 40 years in design, Debbie reflects on rejection, detours, launching a podcast at 43, collaborating with NASA, and why the most meaningful work often comes from boredom, struggle, or desperation. At the center of this conversation is a powerful idea: Your best work should never be behind you. 🔥 What You'll Learn in This Episode Why Debbie's proudest work is with the Joyful Heart Foundation How branding can create real social impact The story behind her NASA Europa Clipper collaboration Why she launched Design Matters by paying for it herself How rejection shaped her career instead of defining it Why mastery takes longer than we expect The difference between making for meaning vs. making for accolades Why boredom can spark your next creative breakthrough How teaching and mentorship fuel long term growth Why you should never want to "peak" too early 💬 Quote of the Episode "I don't want to peak until the day before I die." – Debbie Millman For Debbie, creativity is not about arriving. It is about evolving. The goal is not to build a highlight reel of past achievements. It is to keep making, questioning, and pushing forward so that your most meaningful work is still ahead of you. 🧠 Why This Conversation Matters In a world obsessed with overnight success and viral fame, Debbie offers a radically different perspective. Mastery takes time. Craft takes decades. Reinvention often comes from discomfort. From helping launch the "No More" campaign to sending design into space with NASA's Europa Clipper mission, Debbie shows how creativity can move beyond commerce and into culture, science, and social change. This episode is especially powerful for creatives in their 30s and 40s who feel like they have not "arrived" yet. Debbie proves that longevity, curiosity, and persistence matter far more than early accolades. 🙌 Shout Outs Debbie honors: Professor Helen Reguero Elam for believing in her early Karen Lippert for taking a chance on her work Steve Heller, her "fairy godfather," for shaping her publishing and teaching career Carl also gives a shout out to Kenneth FitzGerald for the introduction. Resources Mentioned Debbie Millman Design Matters Podcast Joyful Heart Foundation – Joyfulheartfoundation.org "No More" campaign NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory – Europa Clipper Mission Love Letter to a Garden - by Debbie Millman Louise Fili Graphic Artists Guild – Pricing & Ethical Guidelines Handbook (17th Edition) School of Visual Arts (SVA) – Masters in Branding AIGA (American Institute of Graphic Arts) 🔗 Connect with Debbie Website: https://www.designmattersmedia.com Instagram: @debbiemillman If this episode sparked something for you, share it with a designer, entrepreneur, or creative in your orbit. And if you want to appear on the Pixel Retentive Podcast, apply here: 👉 epicmade.net/podcast Subscribe for more conversations at the intersection of creativity, art, branding, and business. Until next time, ✌️ – Carl

    48 min
  5. APR 14

    Building Worlds, Building Business with Thor Odinsson ep. 109

    In this episode of the Pixel Retentive Podcast, Carl sits down with Thor Odinsson — creative polymath, experience architect, and former business development leader in the games industry — for a deep conversation on world building, experience design, and the accelerating impact of AI on creative business. Thor's career spans fine art, music production, record labels, large scale events, theater, film, and game studios. From working on major productions to shaping strategy at the intersection of games, culture, and commerce, he defines his work through one core principle: he is in the experience industry. Together, Carl and Thor explore what it really takes to build worlds that resonate, why businesses should focus on solving real human pain instead of chasing disruption, and how overproduction in games and media is colliding with the limits of human attention. At the heart of this episode is a powerful truth: the medium does not matter. The outcome does. If your audience does not feel something, nothing else matters. Key Topics Discussed Experience design in gaming, live events, and entertainment World building as a long term business strategy The rise of AI in game development and creative production Why AI shifts bottlenecks instead of eliminating them Overproduction in games, comics, and digital content Solving customer pain versus chasing unicorn valuations Creative reinvention and avoiding stagnation The balance between structure and chaos in creativity Apollo vs Dionysus as a framework for creators Why human emotion remains the ultimate metric of success Quote of the Episode "If you cannot design with your mind, a tool is not going to help you." This insight from Thor's late professor, Guðmundur Róttar, captures the essence of the conversation. Tools evolve and technology accelerates, but imagination, taste, and lived experience remain irreplaceable. True world building starts in the mind, not in the software. Special Shout Outs Thor honors his late professor Guðmundur Róttar for shaping his philosophy on creativity, discipline, and imagination. Carl gives a shout out to Mario Kroll for the introduction and continued collaboration within the games and entertainment community. Resources Mentioned in this episode: Thor Odinsson on LinkedIn Mario Kroll – UberStrategist Nordic Games Institute Icelandic Games Industry Coalition Unreal Engine If you enjoyed this episode of the Pixel Retentive Podcast, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with a creative founder, game developer, or world builder in your network. For more episodes on creativity, art, gaming, and business strategy, visit epicmade.net/podcast. Until next time, ✌️ – Carl

    51 min
  6. MAR 31

    Your Brand Isn't a Campaign. It's a Universe with David Gallaher ep. 108

    In this episode of the Pixel Retentive Podcast, Carl sits down with David Gallaher, transmedia storyteller, writer, and creative executive whose career spans Marvel Comics, DC, Ubisoft, and immersive live experiences. From breaking into Marvel with a hand-drawn comic strip resum to pioneering early interactive "cyber comics" and developing narrative systems for games and live events, David's journey is anything but conventional. With a background in neuroscience and a deep love for comics, old time radio, and role-playing games, he has built a career exploring how stories evolve across platforms. At the heart of this conversation is a powerful idea: your brand is not a campaign. It is a universe. We explore immersion, audience agency, transmedia storytelling, and how meaningful participation turns consumers into co-authors. How David broke into Marvel by faxing a comic strip resume What early interactive comics taught him about digital storytelling Why comics and old-time radio are inherently participatory mediums How video games blend multiple storytelling formats into one immersive experience The psychology of choice and why meaningful decisions matter in narrative design How to design stories specifically for the platform they live on Why immersion breaks the moment friction interrupts flow How Creatures and Cocktails blends live theater, Dungeons and Dragons, and hospitality The power of physical artifacts in a digital world Why brands that create universes build deeper fandom "Your brand isn't a campaign. It's a universe." – David Gallaher David reframes storytelling as something expansive and interconnected. When narratives stretch across comics, games, live experiences, and digital platforms, audiences stop being passive viewers and become participants. That participation builds ownership, emotional investment, and long-term loyalty. The more immersive and intentional the design, the stronger the connection. Special Shout Out David gives a heartfelt shout-out to Kurt McClung, Co-founder of Taliespin, whose mentorship and visionary leadership in immersive storytelling and business innovation opened the door to bolder narrative experiments and creative growth, and he recognizes Alistair Barrett, his collaborator on Creatures and Cocktails, whose creativity and enthusiasm infuse every immersive experience they build together. Last but not least, he acknowledges Steve Ellis, artist of High Moon. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: David Gallaher on LinkedIn Taliespin Creatures and Cocktails: David Gallaher & Allistar Barrett Academy Center of the Arts Steve Ellis: High Noon Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud Old-time Radio (OTR): Era when broadcast radio was the dominant form of home entertainment in the United States, roughly from the early 1920s through the 1950's Unreasonable Hospitality by Will Guidara Bluefishing by Steve Sims If this episode resonated with you, share it with a storyteller, game designer, or brand builder in your orbit.  Until next time, ✌️ – Carl Connect with Us on  Epic Made on Instagram Epic Made on Facebook  EM on Youtube EM on Linkedin Epic Made's Website

    48 min
  7. MAR 24

    Design isn't neutral. It never was with Kenneth Fitzgerald ep. 107

    In this episode of the Pixel Retentive Podcast, Carl sits down with Kenneth R. FitzGerald — educator, designer, artist, curator, writer, and Professor of Design at Old Dominion University. From starting out as a ceramics major to becoming a self described "accidental" design critic, Ken's journey is anything but linear. What began as a letter to the editor of Emigre Magazine turned into a decades long career shaping conversations around graphic design, culture, and criticism. Along the way, he built a life balancing teaching, writing, personal creative work, and cultural commentary. At the heart of this conversation is a powerful idea: design is not neutral. It never was. We explore design as culture, design as responsibility, and why timidity is one of the greatest threats to creative growth. Quote of the Week "Design is 100 percent culture. You cannot avoid it." – Kenneth R. FitzGerald Ken dismantles the myth that design is purely objective problem solving. Outside of basic technical execution, design lives entirely within culture. Every visual decision communicates values, priorities, and narratives. Whether commercial or artistic, design participates in shaping society. The question is not whether it has cultural impact. The question is what kind of impact it has. Overview This conversation dives deep into the intersection of art, commerce, criticism, and responsibility. Ken reflects on discovering Emigre Magazine in the early 1990s and realizing that design could be intellectually vibrant rather than corporate and rigid. A single letter to the editor led to an invitation to write, which led to a career in design criticism that he never planned. We unpack the idea that courage in design is not about aggression, but about clarity. Ken argues that designers must avoid timidity — whether in creative expression, critique, or professional negotiations. Standing behind your ideas, signing your name to your opinions, and owning your perspective builds both respect and community. The conversation also explores the ethical tension designers face when balancing economic viability with cultural responsibility. Ken challenges the false binary of "sell out or starve," arguing instead for a spectrum of agency and intentional choice. For creatives navigating the space between art and business, this episode is both grounding and galvanizing. Special Shout Out Ken gives a heartfelt shout out to Rudy VanderLans, founder of Emigre Magazine. A simple response to Ken's letter to the editor opened the door to writing, mentorship, and a lifelong role in design discourse. Rudy's willingness to give a young designer a platform shaped the trajectory of Ken's career. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Kenneth FitzGerald Old Dominion University – Department of Art Emigre Magazine AIGA – American Institute of Graphic Arts Graphic Artists Guild If this episode resonated with you, share it with a designer or creative thinker in your orbit. And if you have a story worth telling, apply to be a guest at epicmade.net/podcast.  Until next time, ✌️ – Carl Connect with Us on  Epic Made on Instagram Epic Made on Facebook  EM on Youtube EM on Linkedin Epic Made's Website

    50 min

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This is Pixel Retentive podcast, where Colorful Carl, an Artist and a Business Owner, discusses the art of business and the business of art. Here, we explore the intersection of creativity, business, marketing, and entrepreneurship with some of the leading minds in the space.