Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel

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The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.

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"The Morning Show" | The Enneagram and Vulnerability

Connect with us : HERE In this Morning Show conversation, we dive into one of the most uncomfortable—but essential—parts of growth: exposure and vulnerability. From the “Enneagram of Avoidances” to the deeper question of what each type refuses to face, this episode explores how avoidance shapes our patterns … and how facing it might be the exact path to what we actually want. We unpack: The core avoidance for each Enneagram typeWhy growth requires contacting what we resistThe tension between healing vs. reopening woundsWhether parts of ourselves should be accepted, integrated, or eradicatedHow vulnerability functions in real relationships and community Along the way, the conversation moves from playful (favorite compliments 👀) to deeply personal—touching on fear, motivation, shadow work, and what it means to actually change.

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The Reading Room | Chapter Two : "Personality and Wholeness in Therapy"

Sign up for our Around the Circle Membership : HERE This week in the Reading Room, we continue our journey through Personality and Wholeness in Therapy with a deep dive into Chapter Two. This chapter introduces the PDP framework—a fresh attempt to reinterpret the Enneagram through developmental pathways, neuroscience, and narrative data. Along the way, we wrestle with big questions: What actually counts as evidence? How much of personality is fixed? And what role does inner experience play in shaping who we become? The conversation moves between appreciation and critique. We explore the strengths of the narrative tradition—especially its focus on first-person experience—while also pushing back on philosophical assumptions around “true self,” wholeness, and the limits of scientific grounding. We also examine the tension between “types” and “patterns,” the role of automatic behavior, and whether personality constrains or enables real change. Ultimately, this episode lands on a practical and urgent insight: the Enneagram matters because it reveals motive. And if we don’t examine our motives, they quietly run our lives. But when we bring awareness to them, we gain the possibility of real transformation—toward greater balance, integration, and health.

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Processing Centers | Threes and Ones

In this installment on the Enneagram’s processing centers, Jeff Cook and Katie Whitlock engage When Working Together Doesn’t Work by Joey Schewee, focusing on the doing center through Types One and Three. The conversation explores how these types assess life through action—how progress, productivity, and accomplishment become the primary lens for determining whether things are working. For Ones and Threes, doing is not secondary; it is the ground of evaluation, the place where identity and meaning begin to take shape.

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KJ Ramsey | Joy and Pain

What can joy survive? In this conversation, Jeff Cook sits down with licensed trauma therapist and author KJ Ramsey to explore the surprising relationship between pain, joy, identity, and healing. Drawing from her upcoming memoir The Place Between Our Pain, KJ shares how chronic illness, trauma, and the limits of control reshape our understanding of time, self, and what it means to be held. Together, Jeff and KJ examine the tension between despair and hope, the role of the Enneagram in personal growth, and the deep question beneath it all: Can joy still exist when everything falls apart? This episode moves through themes of: Trauma and post-traumatic growthThe “true self” vs. personalityChronic illness and the experience of timeJoy as presence, not performanceAgency, embodiment, and survivalFaith, meaning, and the limits of understanding Whether you're navigating suffering, exploring the Enneagram, or asking deeper philosophical questions about identity and purpose—this conversation offers both honesty and hope. 📘 KJ Ramsey’s Book The Place Between Our Pain: A Memoir of What Joy Can Survive → Pre-order & learn more: https://www.kjramsey.com 🌐 KJ Ramsey Website → https://www.kjramsey.com 🎙️ Around the Circle The Enneagram publishing platform: Podcast • Books • Video • Ongoing formation → Join the community: https://www.aroundthecircle.org → Become a member: https://www.patreon.com/aroundthecircle 📅 Live Event (Colorado) KJ Ramsey + Suzanne Stabile → April 17–18 : HERE

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"Early Access" | Enneagram 9 | Blake in Utah

What does it feel like to move through life believing your presence doesn’t quite matter? In this episode of Early Access, Katie Whitlock talks with Blake Walker, an Enneagram Nine, about the quiet patterns that shape her life—from avoiding conflict to merging with others’ goals, to the slow realization that her own voice matters. Blake reflects on marriage, motherhood, and building a life that at times felt more aligned with others than herself. Along the way, they explore the Nine’s relationship to energy, anger, and purpose—revealing both the strength and struggle of a type that longs for peace but often loses itself in the process.

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"Inside Story" | Season One Wrap w. Jeff Cook

As we close out Season One of Inside Story, Kristin Messegee and Jeff Cook reflect on what they’ve learned—and where the Enneagram needs to go next. This conversation moves beyond theory into practice. What actually changes us? Why do we avoid our core emotions—anger, shame, and fear—and what does it take to face them? Across the triads, patterns emerge: image types struggle to access shame, body types resist seeing their impact, and head types find subtle ways to avoid anxiety altogether.

1 h 10 min
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The Reading Room | Chapter One : "Personality and Wholeness in Therapy"

We’re back for Part Two of our deep dive into Personality and Wholeness in Therapy—and this time, we step into Chapter One. In this episode, we explore three core ideas shaping Dr. Siegel's model. We trace how early temperament forms a kind of filter, how neural pathways reinforce our patterns over time, and why growth is less about changing your type and more about loosening its grip. We also examine Siegel’s integration model—one that calls us not into a different type, but into balance across the centers. We are gathering on Tuesdays to discuss. The sign up is : HERE

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Processing Centers | Eights

Explore more of Around the Circle, join live discussions, and access exclusive content: HERE ___________ We’re back in —and diving deeper into Joey Stabile’s Working Together Doesn’t Work, focusing on the Processing Center and what it reveals about how different types move through the world. In this episode, we begin a discussion on Eights, Threes, and Ones—the “doing processors.” What does it mean to process through action? What gets gained—and what gets left behind—when execution becomes the primary lens for evaluating life? We explore Joey’s framework of support centers—how doing can be backed by thinking or feeling—and how that shapes the differences between types that, on the surface, look similar. Along the way, we unpack: Why Eights often feel misunderstood—and what’s actually happening beneath their intensityThe tension between execution and emotion in doing typesHow Threes, Eights, and Ones differ in their relationship to results, relationships, and responsibilityWhether the “ends justify the means”—and how each type defines both ends and means differentlyThe hidden cost of prioritizing action over reflection or connection This conversation slows down to wrestle with real language, real experience, and the deeper structure behind how we assess: Am I good in the world? We’ll pick up next time with Threes and Ones—but for now, we stay with the Eights, and what it means to move through life with force, clarity, and blind spots we don’t always see.

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JOY INDUCING!!!!!!

2022-01-11

emy👁👅👁

An absolutely wonderful and enlightening podcast! I have learned so much from the engaging hosts! Thank you!!!
Great Podcast!

2022-01-11

Margaret Miora

This is an informative podcast with engaging hosts. Jeff and TJ are great at explaining complex topics and their banter is entertaining. Highly recommended.
Excellent insights into the enneagram

2021-12-31

Loved by Father

This is one of my very favorite podcasts. The deep dives into the enneagram via pop culture are both highly entertaining and insightful.
My Favourite Podcast!

2020-08-08

Duerksenini

I love listening to this podcast. It has helped me further my understanding of the different types and what motivates them. I find the discussions regarding fictional types to be fascinating and they make me see the characters in a delightful new way! I’m very excited for the future Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter episodes. Jeff and TJ’s way of explaining is clear, and amusing. I would recommend this podcast to any new “enneagramer” wanting to learn more about the typing system. I live with a type 2 & 6, and as a type 4 I have learned how to relate to them better. It has been a fun and helpful listen. :)

The Enneagram is a map of the human personality. It’s a tool for navigating relationships. It creates language for what motivates us and helps us look at the way we look at everything else. Most importantly the enneagram is a mirror; because sometimes you need help seeing yourself.