Reconcile. Everyday Conversations

Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan

Since the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) work across Canada and the TRC Calls to Action, all Canadians have been challenged to join the journey of reconciliation. Due to this call we have seen the term reconciliation become increasingly popular in our news cycle, organizational mandates, and within our churches. But how are people interpreting and working towards reconciliation? Senator Murray Sinclair stated, "If you thought the truth was hard, reconciliation will be harder." This podcast is a forum to face the difficult, complicated, and messy nature of reconciliation. We have heard Indigenous leaders call settler people to step into this reconciliation journey. Within this podcast we intend to deliberately place ourselves, those who come from a predominately settler background, in this space and identify where we can be challenged and encouraged to keep moving towards reconciliation. Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan.

  1. 2020-12-17

    Angela Daigneault

    “Action is the part I really focus on in my understanding (of reconciliation) because we can say a lot of things and people can come to a lot of discussion tables, but if you're not actually doing the stuff it is going to be forgotten.” Angela Daigneault: is a proud urban Métis woman born and raised in Saskatoon with roots to Ile-a-la-Crosse and Outlook, Saskatchewan. She has a passion for community development, advocacy and peacemaking.  Her 13-year social work career has focused on community and relationship building mainly in the not-for-profit sector. But in the last three years, she has followed in her father’s footsteps to work for the Saskatoon Police Service helping strengthen relations between the community and the service, as their Indigenous Relations Consultant. She is an active member of the Anti-Racism Network, Reconciliation Saskatoon and other community-led committees. In downtime, she enjoys being a stellar auntie, dabbling in art & writing and spending time in nature with her dog. In Angela’s conversation she reflects on her experiences of intergenerational trauma, her relationship with the church, and taking care of each other. With a compassionate heart, Angela asks listeners to kindly disrupt the systems and to move from the discussion tables to places of action. Ben Borne and I invited Angela to have a conversation around these five questions: 1. What is your personal understanding of reconciliation? 2. What experiences have led you to this understanding? 3. Why do you feel reconciliation is important? 4. Does forgiveness have a role in reconciliation? Why or why not? 5. How would you invite people into the reconciliation journey? Then we recorded her reflections. ***************************************************** Additional resources to explore: Saskatoon Police Indigenous Relations The Ethical Space of Engagement – Willie Ermine The Power of Indigenous Kinship – Walrus Magazine ConnectR Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan ***************************************************** Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan aimed at facilitating conversations among settler/non-Indigenous Canadians around our role in reconciliation. We thank Mennonite Church Saskatchewan for additional funding support. Project Coordinator: Heather Peters Co-host: Ben Borne Recording and Editing: Matthew Hildebrandt Music by Queen Queen Josephine

    33 min
  2. 2020-12-04

    Warren Isbister-Bear

    “I think now though, it's using my voice to create safe spaces, to have tough conversations, but have this conversations in a respectful and safe way. So we can … hear that before you get to reconciliation, you need to hear this ugly truth, right?” Warren Isbister-Bear, is the Truth & Reconciliation Coordinator, Strategy & Transformation Department, City of Saskatoon. Originally from the Ahtahkakoop Cree Nation, Warren has been living and working in Saskatoon since 2001. As the Truth & Reconciliation Coordinator, Warren is responsible to lead the development of an internal Reconciliation strategy and policy framework aimed at enabling all City Departments to strengthen relationships and consultation activities with Indigenous Peoples and communities while providing strategic leadership and advice, based on extensive knowledge of the richness of diversity of Indigenous Peoples, to the City departments to support them in applying an inclusion lens to policies and programs. In our conversation with Warren we talked about the personal and professional aspects of reconciliation. Warren talked about the impact of residential schools on his own life and challenged the listener to be strategic in making the workplace and work positions more accessible to Indigenous people. Ben Borne and I invited Warren to have a conversation around these five questions: 1. What is your personal understanding of reconciliation? 2. What experiences have led you to this understanding? 3. Why do you feel reconciliation is important? 4. Does forgiveness have a role in reconciliation? Why or why not? 5. How would you invite people into the reconciliation journey? Then we recorded his reflections. ***************************************************** Additional resources to explore: City of Saskatoon Indigenous Initiatives Reconciliation Saskatoon What makes us healthy? Exploring the determinants of health in Saskatchewan Gordon Tootoosis Nīkānīwin Theatre ConnectR Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan ***************************************************** Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan aimed at facilitating conversations among settler/non-Indigenous Canadians around our role in reconciliation. We thank Mennonite Church Saskatchewan for additional funding support. Project Coordinator: Heather Peters Co-host: Ben Borne Recording and Editing: Matthew Hildebrandt Music by Queen Queen Josephine

    30 min
  3. 2020-11-19

    Jenni Lessard

    “The chef coat that you see is actually modeled after the Turkish army. And I think there's a lot of a lot of rules and etiquette, and kitchen ways of being that are actually at odds with indigenous culture. So I'm trying to, I guess you could say decolonize that kitchen experience for people.” Jenni currently works as the Indigenous Cultural Consultant for the Culinary Team at Wanuskewin Heritage Park. She has been a restaurant owner, caterer, executive chef and sees herself as a food bridge for Indigenous and non-Indigenous people in Saskatchewan. Listen until the end of the episode to hear an update from Jenni and Wanuskewin. In our conversation with Jenni we talk about how food can be a tool for reconciliation. Jenni passionately spoke about how the act of reconciliation includes acknowledgment and recognizing that cultural understandings of the land and food have been taken from people. She challenges the listeners to economically support Indigenous businesses and to eat Indigenous food. Ben Borne and I invited Jenni to have a conversation around these five questions: 1. What is your personal understanding of reconciliation? 2. What experiences have led you to this understanding? 3. Why do you feel reconciliation is important? 4. Does forgiveness have a role in reconciliation? Why or why not? 5. How would you invite people into the reconciliation journey? Then we recorded her reflections. ***************************************************** Additional resources to explore: Wanuskewin Boreal Heartland Indigenous culinary association of nations Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan ***************************************************** Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan aimed at facilitating conversations among settler/non-Indigenous Canadians around our role in reconciliation. We thank Mennonite Church Saskatchewan for additional funding support. Project Coordinator: Heather Peters Co-host: Ben Borne Recording and Editing: Matthew Hildebrandt Music by Queen Queen Josephine

    36 min
  4. 2020-10-28

    Jolene Peters

    “You have to be open to it. You might not want to listen or hear what someone has to say that has a different belief system…. God calls us to love everyone, to listen to their stories. This is what have gotten me started and motivated.” Jolene Peters lives intentionally in her Saskatoon neighbourhood as a part-time hair stylist, part-time nanny, full-time mom and wife. Jolene is from the Mistawsis band and grew up in a Mennonite family as a foster child. Jolene and her family are very involved at their church, House for All Nations. In our conversation with Jolene she spoke about how the birth of her daughter propelled her to explore her Indigenous heritage and navigate how to reconcile Indigenous spirituality with her Christian faith. She spoke passionately about her desire that her daughter grow up to be a proud Indigenous person. Ben Borne and I invited Jolene to have a conversation around these five questions: 1. What is your personal understanding of reconciliation? 2. What experiences have led you to this understanding? 3. Why do you feel reconciliation is important? 4. Does forgiveness have a role in reconciliation? Why or why not? 5. How would you invite people into the reconciliation journey? Then we recorded her reflections. ***************************************************** Additional resources to explore: Office of the Treaty Commissioner events Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan ***************************************************** Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan aimed at facilitating conversations among settler/non-Indigenous Canadians around our role in reconciliation. We thank Mennonite Church Saskatchewan for additional funding support. Project Coordinator: Heather Peters Co-host: Ben Borne Recording and Editing: Matthew Hildebrandt Music by Queen Queen Josephine

    25 min
  5. 2020-10-22

    Maryann Napope

    CONTENT WARNING: This episode talks about incidences of sexual abuse. It is difficult to hear these stories and if it would be harmful or triggering for you to listen, we suggest skipping this episode. Maryann felt the stories were important to share because she had been shameful of them for many years and has since realized that these are not secrets she needs to hold. If you need help please call 211 or go to 211.ca to find local resources including crisis hotlines, addictions, abuse, and many others. The Indian Residential School Survivors Society also has a 24-hour crisis line: 1-866-925-4419 “I want people to know where this is all coming from. In terms of reconciliation people say, Why don’t these Indian’s just get over it, move along with your life. Just by what I shared with you, how does me and my family move forward or move in any way because of what has happened to us, as a family?” Maryann Napope is a Cree mother, grandmother and great grandmother. She is a 5th generation survivor of Indian Residential Schools and was heavily involved in the Truth and Reconciliation Commission community gatherings held throughout Saskatchewan where she worked as a mental health support person. Maryann has brought the Kairos Blanket Exercise to communities throughout the province. She has a degree in social work. Maryann is grateful for the people that the Creator has put in her path throughout her life. As we spoke with Maryann she shared intimately about her life and experiences overcoming abuse and a high-risk lifestyle in order to break the cycles of violence that had impacted her family. She spoke candidly about injustice and reconciliation and invoked settlers to do more. Ben Borne and I invited Maryann to have a conversation around these five questions: 1. What is your personal understanding of reconciliation? 2. What experiences have led you to this understanding? 3. Why do you feel reconciliation is important? 4. Does forgiveness have a role in reconciliation? Why or why not? 5. How would you invite people into the reconciliation journey? Then we recorded her reflections. ***************************************************** Additional resources to explore: STORIES FROM THE FRONT: REALITIES OF THE OVER-INCARCERATION OF ABORIGINAL WOMEN IN CANADA Indigenous Saskatchewan Encyclopedia – Residential Schools Where are the Children? Healing the Legacy of the Residential Schools Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan ***************************************************** Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan aimed at facilitating conversations among settler/non-Indigenous Canadians around our role in reconciliation. We thank Mennonite Church Saskatchewan for additional funding support. Project Coordinator: Heather Peters Co-host: Ben Borne Recording and Editing: Matthew Hildebrandt Music by Queen Queen Josephine

    48 min
  6. 2020-10-15

    Harry Lafond

    “Deep listening is critical part of reconciliation. It isn’t just feeding back what you hear on the surface but taking things down to the depths of emotions, social understanding, intellectual understanding and moving into areas of empathy, respect and humility.” Harry Lafond is from and lives on maskêko sâkahikanihk (Muskeg Lake). From 1956 to 1976, he lived and spent most of the time in places where there was little Cree spoken. Now, he spends much of his time seeking out Cree words and relearning how to speak, read and write Cree. That is the legacy he wants to leave his 13 grandchildren, two daughters and three sons. Harry has done many things to serve the people he lives with: he has a M.Ed., an Indigenous Languages Certificate, has served as chief, wrote some, read lots, listened to Elders, spoke many times on reconciliation and spent hundreds of hours with first his children and now our grandchildren. His wife, Germaine and Harry believe in wâhkôtowin (building relations) and acknowledge that it requires time and energy. In our conversation with Harry he beautifully knit together his thoughts around the spirituality of reconciliation and the importance of language within reconciliation. He walked us through his journey of reconciling both Catholic and Cree spirituality while first learning and then teaching Cree phrases and understandings. In all this, he attributed the people he was connected to in his life and the relationships that helped shape him. “Many years ago, someone said, you are a good listener, and this is a beautiful complement because it meant I was practicing deep listening. And deep listening is critical part of reconciliation. It isn’t just feeding back what you hear on the surface but taking things down to the depths of emotions, social understanding, intellectual understanding and moving into areas of empathy, respect and humility. Those Cree teachings are important parts of who we are as a people”. Ben Borne and I invited Harry to have a conversation around these five questions: 1. What is your personal understanding of reconciliation? 2. What experiences have led you to this understanding? 3. Why do you feel reconciliation is important? 4. Does forgiveness have a role in reconciliation? Why or why not? 5. How would you invite people into the reconciliation journey? Then we recorded his reflections. ***************************************************** Additional resources to explore: Muskeg Lake Cree Literacy Network OTC Indigenous couple live a life of reconciliation – Catholic Register Black Elk Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan ***************************************************** Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan aimed at facilitating conversations among settler/non-Indigenous Canadians around our role in reconciliation. We thank Mennonite Church Saskatchewan for additional funding support. Project Coordinator: Heather Peters Co-host: Ben Borne Recording and Editing: Matthew Hildebrandt Music by Queen Queen Josephine

    52 min
  7. 2020-10-07

    Stacey Swampy

    Stacey Swampy was born in Maskwacis, Alberta. When he was 13 years old, his father died and he entered, what would become, 30 years inside the system – moving from foster homes to group homes to the young offenders systems and finally to the provincial correctional centre and federal penitentiary. When Stacey realized that he might die within this system he decided it was time to make changes and turned to the Elders who worked there to help him. Since then Stacey has become sober, embraced Indigenous culture and practices, graduated with a university degree and has worked tirelessly to help people get out of the system. Stacey has worked for Str8Up, Micah Mission and is currently back at the Saskatoon Correctional Centre, this time working as an Elder. In our conversation with Stacey he talked about the value of learning his own story and about the importance of forgiveness, and how it is an essential step for reconciliation to truly take place. He explains throughout his conversation with us that not only do we have to forgive those who have hurt us, but we must also forgive ourselves. Stacey puts reconciliation within a problem-solving framework. He explained how the teachings from the elders taught him to let go of all the negative energy he was holding onto and finally move forward in a positive and healthy direction. “The way reconciliation is, is we have to forgive each other before we can move on and start to heal. If we can’t forgive people, then we’re still stuck in a part of the problems not the solutions.” Ben Borne and I invited Stacey to have a conversation around these five questions: 1. What is your personal understanding of reconciliation? 2. What experiences have led you to this understanding? 3. Why do you feel reconciliation is important? 4. Does forgiveness have a role in reconciliation? Why or why not? 5. How would you invite people into the reconciliation journey? Then we recorded his reflections. ***************************************************** Additional resources to explore: Str8Up Writing your Life Story Teaching by the Medicine Wheel Emotional Intelligence Toolkit Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan ***************************************************** Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan aimed at facilitating conversations among  Canadians around our role in reconciliation. We thank Mennonite Church Saskatchewan for additional funding support. Project Coordinator: Heather Peters Co-host: Ben Borne Recording and Editing: Matthew Hildebrandt Music by Queen Queen Josephine

    27 min

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Since the Truth and Reconciliation Commission (TRC) work across Canada and the TRC Calls to Action, all Canadians have been challenged to join the journey of reconciliation. Due to this call we have seen the term reconciliation become increasingly popular in our news cycle, organizational mandates, and within our churches. But how are people interpreting and working towards reconciliation? Senator Murray Sinclair stated, "If you thought the truth was hard, reconciliation will be harder." This podcast is a forum to face the difficult, complicated, and messy nature of reconciliation. We have heard Indigenous leaders call settler people to step into this reconciliation journey. Within this podcast we intend to deliberately place ourselves, those who come from a predominately settler background, in this space and identify where we can be challenged and encouraged to keep moving towards reconciliation. Reconcile: Everyday Conversations is a project of Mennonite Central Committee Saskatchewan.