What if the reason you haven't found lasting freedom from pornography isn't because you haven't tried hard enough, but because you've been trying to recover without the right plan? In this powerful conversation, Shawn sits down with Nick Stumbo, Executive Director of Pure Desire Ministries, to talk honestly about pornography recovery, sexual integrity, shame, community, healing, and what it actually takes to build a life of lasting freedom. Ultimately the conversation focuses on this idea of how to prevent a relapse from porn. Nick knows this journey personally. After struggling with pornography himself, Nick experienced the transforming power of counseling, community, and a structured recovery process. His story eventually led him into ministry with Pure Desire, where he now helps equip churches, leaders, men, and women to walk through sexual brokenness toward hope, healing, and freedom. And this conversation goes far beyond simply telling men to "try harder." Nick explains why having good recovery tools matters, but why tools alone aren't the plan. Tools become powerful when they're placed inside a larger framework of community, honesty, self-awareness, and intentional action. You'll hear Nick talk about: Why trying harder often isn't enough for porn recoveryWhy so many men remain trapped in shame and isolationThe role of community in lasting sexual integrityWhy recovery needs to become a way of life, not simply a longer streak of sobrietyHow to recognize the patterns that lead toward relapseThe importance of having a clear recovery planNick's three-part approach to recovery: healthy living, an escape plan, and a plan for what happens after relapseWhy counseling and groups can work together so powerfullyHow churches can become places of healing rather than shameWhat Nick has learned through his own journey of recovery and sixteen years with Pure DesireWhy there is still hope if you've tried everything and nothing seems to workOne of the most powerful moments comes when Nick reframes the idea of "I've tried everything." Maybe you haven't tried everything. Maybe you've tried everything alone. If you've been struggling with pornography, sexual temptation, unwanted sexual behaviors, or repeated relapse, this conversation will give you a bigger picture of what recovery can actually look like. You don't have to white-knuckle your way through this. You can learn a new way of life. And you don't have to do it alone. Ready to create your own Personal Recovery Plan? If you're tired of guessing about what to do next and want to build a recovery strategy around your story, your patterns, and your unique struggles, visit secrethabit.ca/personalrecoveryplan We'll sit down together, make sense of what's really going on, and create a clear plan for moving forward. Connect with Nick & Pure Desire Learn more about Nick's work, Pure Desire's resources, groups, books, and training at Pure Desire Ministries. Puredesire.org About Nick Stumbo Nick Stumbo is the Executive Director of Pure Desire Ministries and a third-generation pastor. After confronting his own pornography addiction in 2010, Nick and his wife, Michelle, found hope and healing through Pure Desire's counseling and group ministries. Since then, Nick has dedicated his life to helping the Church become a place of healing and freedom. He is the author or co-author of Setting Us Free, Safe: Creating a Culture of Grace in a Climate of Shame, and Hope, Healing and Freedom: A Pathway Beyond Pornography and Betrayal. He is also a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional (PSAP). Nick and Michelle live in Nashville, Tennessee, with their four children. Disclaimer: Secret Habit provides coaching and educational content, not psychotherapy, psychological counselling, medical care, or mental-health treatment. Our content is for educational purposes and is not a substitute for professional care. Results are not guaranteed.