One of the most pressing issues in the EU is the housing crisis. Wages are not keeping up with the rising costs of accommodation, and paying the rent is a challenge for many – never mind trying to get on the property ladder. Meanwhile, homelessness has got worse. Our guest is the EU's first housing commissioner, although his brief also covers energy – a key issue as the bloc tries to become more independent. Dan Jorgensen is a Danish Social Democrat, and in Denmark he was minister for climate and energy, and minister for development cooperation and global climate policy, before taking up the Energy and Housing portfolio for the EU in 2024. We start with the tensions over Greenland, and we ask Jorgensen if the EU has stood up for its interests forcefully enough. "I do think that the European Union has been quite strong in sending the message across the Atlantic to President Trump that we all stand behind Greenland," Jorgensen replies. "The French president has also been very vocal, saying that the sovereignty of a nation needs to be respected, and we appreciate that a lot." "There is no future of Greenland without the Greenlandic people," Jorgensen goes on, "and no future without decisions made by the Greenlandic government and the Danish government, since, of course, Greenland is still a part of the Danish kingdom." Turning to his portfolio, Jorgensen underlines that Europe needs "a huge wake-up call" on the housing crisis. "If people don't have a home, if they cannot afford the most basic need, which is a roof over their head, then there is a real risk that they will turn against democracy, and to protests," Jorgensen asserts. "What is our job as decision makers if not to help people have a good life? And it is true, as you imply, that in the past the European Commission has not played a big role here. We will play now a much bigger role, and one of the things that we need to do is change the rules for when it is possible to use state aid. We want to make it easier for member states to use state aid where the market does not deliver. So this means that we can use state aid to provide more affordable housing so that nurses, teachers and police officers can also afford to live where they serve." Jorgensen turns to the question of short-term rentals, which he says is "a huge challenge in many cities in France and across the European Union. Short-term rentals have in some places turned into money factories for the people that own the buildings, crowding out normal people from their homes because there's more money to be made on short-term rentals. We want to do something about that problem," Jorgensen says, adding: "You can put a maximum number of nights that you are allowed to rent out your home. You can differentiate between normal people, so to speak, and professional owners that only have these apartments to rent them out as short-term rentals." Turning to energy, the EU has committed itself to stopping imports of Russian liquefied natural gas (LNG) by the end of 2027. Is that realistic, given that several European countries imported significant amounts of Russian LNG in 2025, notably France? "I do think it is realistic," Jorgensen answers. "We have managed to bring down our consumption quite significantly already, from 45 percent four years ago to between 10 and 13 percent today, and now we need to take the final steps. We can no longer allow Putin to weaponise energy against us." Will this gas independence happen, though, given that the leaders of Hungary and Slovakia oppose that overall EU direction? "Well, the decision has been made," Jorgensen points out. "So it is no longer up to those two countries. This will now be made into legislation and law in all countries. That is the way our Union works. When a decision is made by qualified majority, then it happens in all member states. Also in the ones that do not support it. Now, I would have wished, of course, that we had unanimity behind these decisions. We don't, and that's regrettable, but it doesn't change the bottom line and the outcome. We will stop importing Russian gas in Europe," Jorgensen concludes. Programme prepared by Oihana Almandoz, Perrine Desplats and Isabelle Romero
