TBPN

John Coogan & Jordi Hays

TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

  1. Citrini Research’s viral piece, AI and the economy, 90s Nostalgia | Diet TBPN

    18 HRS AGO

    Citrini Research’s viral piece, AI and the economy, 90s Nostalgia | Diet TBPN

    Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://Ramp.com AppLovin - https://axon.ai Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Cognition - https://cognition.ai Console - https://console.com CrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.com ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Figma - https://figma.com Fin - https://fin.ai Gemini - https://gemini.google.com Graphite - https://graphite.com Gusto - https://gusto.com/tbpn Kalshi - https://kalshi.com Labelbox - https://labelbox.com Lambda - https://lambda.ai Linear - https://linear.app MongoDB - https://mongodb.com NYSE - https://nyse.com Okta - https://www.okta.com Phantom - https://phantom.com/cash Plaid - https://plaid.com Public - https://public.com Railway - https://railway.com Restream - https://restream.io Sentry - https://sentry.io Shopify - https://shopify.com/tbpn Turbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Vibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    32 min
  2. 20 HRS AGO

    CitriniPocalypse, Dot Com Lore, Gene-Edited Polo Horses | Alap Shah, Will Brown, Michelle Lee, Mike Annunziata

    Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com (00:18) - CitriniPocalypse (18:37) - The Durability of Institutional Inertia (30:26) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (44:01) - The Dot Com Boom (01:00:21) - Polo's Gene-Edited Horse Clones (01:11:06) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:29:24) - Alap Shah, co-founder and former CEO of Sentieo, an AI-powered financial research platform, discusses the transformative impact of AI on white-collar employment, highlighting a significant decline in information sector jobs since 2022. He emphasizes the potential for AI to further disrupt the labor market, particularly as corporate adoption accelerates, and underscores the need for proactive measures to address these challenges. (02:00:11) - Will Brown, Research Lead at Prime Intellect, discusses the company's recent release of a training platform designed to simplify reinforcement learning (RL) on open-source models, enabling users to focus on environment design and task specification without hardware concerns. He highlights the platform's accessibility, allowing users to train models effectively by converting existing data into training recipes, and notes the positive reception from the community. Additionally, Brown touches on the evolving landscape of AI, emphasizing the importance of customization and the potential of open-source models to achieve state-of-the-art performance in specialized tasks. (02:23:31) - Michelle Lee is the founder and CEO of Medra, a company developing physical AI scientists to automate laboratory experiments and accelerate drug discovery. In the conversation, she discusses her background in chemical engineering and robotics, the development of intelligent robots capable of autonomously conducting experiments, and Medra's recent $52 million Series A funding to build one of the largest autonomous labs in the United States. (02:30:59) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (02:37:36) - Mike Annunziata, Founder and Managing Partner at Also Capital, has a background in venture capital and entrepreneurship, including co-founding Farther Farms and serving as a board member at Varda Space Industries. In the conversation, he discusses his non-traditional path into venture capital, emphasizing the importance of investing in founders who are magnets for top-tier talent and have a clear, pragmatic vision. He also highlights the significance of having fun while playing to win, and announces the launch of Also Capital's second fund, totaling $50 million. (03:00:07) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions TBPN.com is made possible by: Ramp - https://Ramp.com AppLovin - https://axon.ai Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Cognition - https://cognition.ai Console - https://console.com CrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.com ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Figma - https://figma.com Fin - https://fin.ai Gemini - https://gemini.google.com Graphite - https://graphite.com Gusto - https://gusto.com/tbpn Kalshi - https://kalshi.com Labelbox - https://labelbox.com Lambda - https://lambda.ai Linear - https://linear.app MongoDB - https://mongodb.com NYSE - https://nyse.com Okta - https://www.okta.com Phantom - https://phantom.com/cash Plaid - https://plaid.com Public - https://public.com Railway - https://railway.com Restream - https://restream.io Sentry - https://sentry.io Shopify - https://shopify.com/tbpn Turbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Vibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    3h 18m
  3. Why My Article Just Tanked the Market

    21 HRS AGO

    Why My Article Just Tanked the Market

    This is our full interview with Alap Shah, recorded live on TBPN. We discuss whether AI is triggering a structural decline in white collar jobs, why agentic AI may compress platform margins at companies like DoorDash and Uber,  how labs like Anthropic and OpenAI could capture enormous value as public markets struggle, and what political and economic solutions might prevent an AI driven contagion. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to podcast platforms immediately after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com TBPN.com is made possible by:Ramp - https://Ramp.comAppLovin - https://axon.aiCisco - https://www.cisco.comCognition - https://cognition.aiConsole - https://console.comCrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.comElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.ioFigma - https://figma.comFin - https://fin.aiGemini - https://gemini.google.comGraphite - https://graphite.comGusto - https://gusto.com/tbpnKashi - https://kalshi.comLabelbox - https://labelbox.comLambda - https://lambda.aiLinear - https://linear.appMongoDB - https://mongodb.comNYSE - https://nyse.comOkta - https://www.okta.comPhantom - https://phantom.com/cashPlaid - https://plaid.comPublic - https://public.comRailway - https://railway.comRamp - https://ramp.comRestream - https://restream.ioSentry - https://sentry.ioShopify - https://shopify.comTurbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.comVanta - https://vanta.comVibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:https://TBPN.comhttps://x.com/tbpnhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    30 min
  4. Datacenter Protests, Paramount WB Bid Clears Key Hurdle, The Mansion Section | Diet TBPN

    3D AGO

    Datacenter Protests, Paramount WB Bid Clears Key Hurdle, The Mansion Section | Diet TBPN

    Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://Ramp.com AppLovin - https://axon.ai Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Cognition - https://cognition.ai Console - https://console.com CrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.com ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Figma - https://figma.com Fin - https://fin.ai Gemini - https://gemini.google.com Graphite - https://graphite.com Gusto - https://gusto.com/tbpn Kalshi - https://kalshi.com Labelbox - https://labelbox.com Lambda - https://lambda.ai Linear - https://linear.app MongoDB - https://mongodb.com NYSE - https://nyse.com Okta - https://www.okta.com Phantom - https://phantom.com/cash Plaid - https://plaid.com Public - https://public.com Railway - https://railway.com Restream - https://restream.io Sentry - https://sentry.io Shopify - https://shopify.com/tbpn Turbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Vibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    29 min
  5. 3D AGO

    Palmer Luckey LIVE from NYSE, Supreme Court Smackdown, Data Center Backlash | Ryan Petersen, Jonathan Gould, Diogo Mónica, Joe Lonsdale, John Shahidi, Will Bruey, Sam Levenback, Alex Heath

    Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com (01:07) - Ryan Petersen, founder and CEO of Flexport, a global supply chain management company, discusses the recent U.S. Supreme Court ruling that invalidated former President Trump's broad tariffs, highlighting the uncertainty surrounding potential refunds for businesses that paid these tariffs. He notes that while the Court's decision deemed the tariffs unconstitutional, it did not provide clarity on whether the $175 billion collected would be refunded, leaving companies in limbo. Petersen also mentions that Flexport has developed a tariff refund calculator to assist businesses in determining potential refunds, emphasizing the importance of staying informed as the situation evolves. (14:36) - Supreme Court Smackdown (21:54) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (47:36) - WSJ Mansion Section (01:00:34) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:03:29) - Palmer Luckey is a technology entrepreneur best known as the founder of Oculus VR, the virtual reality company acquired by Facebook in 2014. He later founded Anduril Industries, a defense technology company building autonomous systems, surveillance platforms, and AI-driven military hardware for the U.S. and allied governments. (01:32:18) - Jonathan Gould is a U.S. financial regulatory official and legal expert focused on banking policy and supervision. He has served in senior roles at the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC) and has worked in private practice advising financial institutions on regulatory matters. He is known for his expertise in bank regulation, fintech policy, and the legal framework governing U.S. financial institutions. (01:46:36) - Diogo Mónica, General Partner, Haun Ventures, discusses his journey from leading security teams at Square and Docker to establishing Anchorage Digital, the first federally chartered crypto-native bank in the U.S. He highlights the challenges of obtaining a federal charter during a crypto-unfriendly administration and emphasizes the necessity for tech companies to build their own banking infrastructure to innovate in financial products. Mónica also notes a resurgence in new bank charters, indicating a shift towards tech-driven financial institutions. (01:55:57) - Joe Lonsdale is an American entrepreneur and venture capitalist, known for co-founding Palantir Technologies, Addepar, and OpenGov, and serving as the managing partner at 8VC. He discusses the challenges facing low-end SaaS companies lacking robust systems of record, regulatory moats, or network effects, emphasizing that such companies are vulnerable to disruption, whereas well-established SaaS firms with strong tech cultures and significant investments in AI are better positioned to adapt and thrive. (02:04:19) - John Shahidi, co-founder of Happy Dad Hard Seltzer, discusses the brand's impressive 31% year-over-year growth in January, even during the typically slow "dry January" period. He attributes this success to strategic in-store marketing efforts, emphasizing the importance of engaging customers at the point of purchase rather than relying solely on creator-driven promotions. Shahidi also highlights the evolving drinking habits of younger consumers, noting a shift towards lighter beverages like seltzers and teas, as health consciousness rises and traditional beer consumption declines. (02:19:56) - Will Bruey, CEO and co-founder of Varda Space Industries, discusses the company's progress in space manufacturing, highlighting the recent landing of their fifth capsule and the upcoming launch of the sixth. He explains their strategy of implementing annual block upgrades to enhance hardware and software, drawing parallels to consumer electronics like smartphones. Bruey also emphasizes the focus on bio-manufacturing in microgravity over the next five to ten years, citing its economic viability and significant impact. (02:27:24) - Sam Levenback, Senior Vice President and Chief Growth & Strategy Officer at X-energy, discusses the company's development of high-temperature gas-cooled pebble bed reactors and their collaboration with Dow Chemical in South Texas and Amazon in Washington state to build new nuclear projects. He highlights the importance of revitalizing the U.S. nuclear supply chain to meet the growing energy demands of AI and digital infrastructure, emphasizing X-energy's commitment to advancing firm power solutions. Levenback also underscores the significance of partnerships with investors like Arabor, who are eager to understand and support the nuclear sector's unique challenges and opportunities. (02:41:36) - Alex Heath, Deputy Editor at The Verge and author of the "Command Line" newsletter, discusses his approach to tech journalism, emphasizing the importance of leveraging AI tools for efficiency while maintaining editorial oversight. He highlights the necessity of balancing relationships with tech executives to ensure fair reporting and shares insights into the evolving landscape of media, including the potential for independent writers to collaborate under unified brands. Heath also reflects on the challenges of holding exclusive stories and the significance of in-person interactions for sourcing information. 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    3h 7m
  6. Palmer Luckey: Why I Started My Own Bank

    3D AGO

    Palmer Luckey: Why I Started My Own Bank

    This is our full interview with Palmer Luckey, recorded live on TBPN. We discuss launching Erebor, a bank built for deep tech after SVB’s collapse, the push toward 24/7 dollar-backed stablecoin settlement, what it means to align a financial institution with U.S. interests, the gaming industry’s shift from innovation to extraction, and the future of VR. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to podcast platforms immediately after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Sign up for TBPN’s daily newsletter at TBPN.com TBPN.com is made possible by:Ramp - https://Ramp.comAppLovin - https://axon.aiCisco - https://www.cisco.comCognition - https://cognition.aiConsole - https://console.comCrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.comElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.ioFigma - https://figma.comFin - https://fin.aiGemini - https://gemini.google.comGraphite - https://graphite.comGusto - https://gusto.com/tbpnKalshi - https://kalshi.comLabelbox - https://labelbox.comLambda - https://lambda.aiLinear - https://linear.appMongoDB - https://mongodb.comNYSE - https://nyse.comOkta - https://www.okta.comPhantom - https://phantom.com/cashPlaid - https://plaid.comPublic - https://public.comRailway - https://railway.comRamp - https://ramp.comRestream - https://restream.ioSentry - https://sentry.ioShopify - https://shopify.comTurbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.comVanta - https://vanta.comVibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:https://TBPN.comhttps://x.com/tbpnhttps://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    29 min
  7. The SaaSpocalypse is Cancelled, WB Back in Play, Zuck Grilled in LA Trial | Diet TBPN

    4D AGO

    The SaaSpocalypse is Cancelled, WB Back in Play, Zuck Grilled in LA Trial | Diet TBPN

    Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. TBPN is made possible by: Ramp - https://Ramp.com AppLovin - https://axon.ai Cisco - https://www.cisco.com Cognition - https://cognition.ai Console - https://console.com CrowdStrike - https://crowdstrike.com ElevenLabs - https://elevenlabs.io Figma - https://figma.com Fin - https://fin.ai Gemini - https://gemini.google.com Graphite - https://graphite.com Gusto - https://gusto.com/tbpn Kalshi - https://kalshi.com Labelbox - https://labelbox.com Lambda - https://lambda.ai Linear - https://linear.app MongoDB - https://mongodb.com NYSE - https://nyse.com Okta - https://www.okta.com Phantom - https://phantom.com/cash Plaid - https://plaid.com Public - https://public.com Railway - https://railway.com Restream - https://restream.io Sentry - https://sentry.io Shopify - https://shopify.com/tbpn Turbopuffer - https://turbopuffer.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Vibe - https://vibe.co Follow TBPN:  https://TBPN.com https://x.com/tbpn https://open.spotify.com/show/2L6WMqY3GUPCGBD0dX6p00?si=674252d53acf4231 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/technology-brothers/id1772360235 https://www.youtube.com/@TBPNLive

    31 min
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TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.

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