The Kee To Growth

Jen McKee

Welcome to The Kee to Growth, the ultimate podcast for trade business owners ready to level up their marketing game! Hosted by marketing maven Jen McKee, this show dives deep into the strategies, tools, and insights you need to dominate the digital landscape. Specializing in TikTok marketing for trades, Jen shares her expertise to help you turn clicks into customers and viewers into lifelong clients. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just getting started in the trades, The Kee to Growth delivers actionable tips, inspiring success stories, and the latest trends in marketing tailored just for your industry. Tune in, take notes, and unlock the key to exponential growth for your business!

  1. 6D AGO

    Inside LB Capital: Bill Rossell's Unfiltered Proven Formula for Trades Companies That Scale

    In this episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee welcomes Bill Rossell, CEO of LB Capital and the Build It to Sell It movement. Bill shares his journey from a seasoned digital marketer to leading multiple roofing companies across the nation, offering a unique perspective on what it takes to build, scale, and ultimately sell (or simply strengthen) a trades business. The conversation cuts through the surface talk often seen in the industry, getting candid about sustainable business development and the mindsets needed for lasting growth. Jen and Bill discuss the interplay of marketing, branding, self-leadership, and intentional boundaries. Bill explains the importance of thinking beyond just selling services—whether you plan to sell your company or not, building a business that's truly healthy and attractive comes down to running profitable P&Ls, consistently driving revenue, and, most importantly, cultivating a winning culture. Drawing from LB Capital's experience growing companies to over $125 million in just three years, Bill offers listeners both strategy and a dose of vulnerability around the real-life messiness of scaling in the trades. A major focus is on the relationship between trades companies and their marketing partners. Bill and Jen stress that marketing is not a "set it and forget it" function—successful partnerships require mutual investment, clear communication, and systems that enable both sides to thrive. Bill cautions against the blame game and champions a collaborative approach, pointing to real-world examples when agency-client dynamics fall short and how to recalibrate for results. Listeners are given a behind-the-scenes look at the tactical choices LB Capital makes for their portfolio of companies. Bill shares why lead aggregators (such as Angie and Thumbtack) are invaluable for early-stage and growing businesses—even though they're often overlooked. He walks through the stepwise approach to scaling up marketing investments, the true ROI of rebrands and branding work, and how AI and automation are leveraged without losing the human touch. As always, the episode connects systems and numbers back to the human aspects: gratitude, people, and the ever-present challenge of aligning business growth with personal values. Timestamped Topics 00:00 Introduction to the podcast and Bill's background 02:09 The real goals for business owners: profitability, year-over-year growth, and culture 04:42 Bill's marketing roots and transition from agency work to running trades companies 06:33 The power of abundance mindset and generosity in the trades 09:00 What makes a marketing partnership successful (and where breakdowns occur) 13:01 Building healthy P&Ls and the difference between driving profit and driving revenue 14:25 How LB Capital builds a playbook for new acquisitions and scales revenue strategically 17:34 The value of a strong brand, rebranding strategies, and building consumer trust 20:25 Why fixing mistakes and protecting your reputation matters more than short-term cost 21:12 Leveraging lead aggregators and optimizing speed-to-lead for explosive ROI 26:14 Marketing spend, attribution, and incentivizing teams for impactful customer content Connect with Bill Rossell Linked In:https://www.linkedin.com/in/billrossell/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bill.rossell.3 Phone Number: 610-955-2991 Connect with Built It To Sell It Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/buildittosellit Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/BuildIt2SellIt/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@buildittosellit Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@buildittosellit Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/company/lb-capital-llc/ Website: https://www.buildittosellit.com/ Contact Number:  (215)-515-7951   Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    37 min
  2. APR 21

    Clogbusters & Culture Shifts: Jarod Smith's Marketing Playbook for Service Businesses

    In this episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee sits down with Jarod Smith, founder of Clogbusters Drain Cleaning Repair in Des Moines, Iowa. Jarod shares his unconventional journey from launching his first plumbing company at just 18, to completely shifting his business model and culture within the drain cleaning industry. Listeners get an inside look at how he challenged industry norms, built a business focused on value, and created opportunities for both personal and business growth. Jarod dives into the cultural divides that exist between plumbers and drain cleaners and details how he set out to change perceptions, elevate expectations, and reward employees who show up and win every day. He explains the unique approach Clogbusters has taken to recruiting and training, including the development of their own drain cleaning academy—the only program of its kind in the United States—that directly feeds his business's growth. Jarod highlights the significance of intentional boundaries, building an authentic brand, and fostering an ownership mentality among his team. The discussion also unpacks the marketing tactics that fuel Clogbusters' rapid expansion, from bold billboard experiments to mastering the fundamentals like PPC, LSA, and referrals. Jen and Jarod dig into the balance between systems, branding, and the human side of selling and servicing, emphasizing the power of referral networks and strategic partnerships. They explore the technical versus relational aspects of service, the importance of customer experience, and the emotional resilience required as an entrepreneur in the trades. Throughout the episode, Jarod's candid storytelling and willingness to share both his strategies and setbacks remind listeners that sustainable business growth isn't about overnight wins—it's about alignment, the messy middle, and an unwavering commitment to doing things differently. Whether you're trying to break through a revenue plateau or reimagine what's possible in your market, there's practical advice here for leaders ready to rethink what it means to scale a service-based business. Timestamps for this episode: 00:01 Introduction to Jarod Smith and his unique entry into the trades 02:00 Building Clogbusters: Transitioning from plumbing to drain cleaning 05:05 How intentional branding and a drain cleaning academy sparked explosive growth 08:21 Recruiting, training, and culture: Creating your own talent pipeline 10:42 The value of customer experience and why tech skills aren't enough 13:12 Overcoming old industry mindsets and building value-based pricing 16:14 Sales structure, service experience, and training technicians in sales 17:37 Lead sources, the power of referrals, and marketing ROI discussion 19:37 Optimizing conversion rates: From phone call to booked job 22:14 Breaking past revenue plateaus and designing systems for sustainable, scalable growth Connect with Jarod Smith: Contact Number: 515-984-2564, 515-202-0955 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/clogbustersdraincleaning/ Youtube: Clog Busters Drain Cleaning and Repair Website: clogbusters.co Email: service@clogbuster.net | jarod@clogbuster.net Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    33 min
  3. APR 14

    The Shift to AI Optimization: Paul Olsen on Evolving Marketing Strategies

    In this episode of the Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee welcomes Paul Olsen, chief innovator at So Good Team and a seasoned entrepreneur in the trades. Paul shares his journey from plumbing apprentice and pump truck driver to CEO of multimillion-dollar companies, and how his transition from Koala Cooling led to the birth of So Good Team. The conversation digs into the evolution of marketing for local home service businesses, the move from Google Maps optimization to AI-powered strategies, and the challenges and opportunities that come with staying agile as platforms change. Paul and Jen discuss why niching down in marketing services can be more manageable than the many moving parts of running a home service company. They talk about the importance of intentional boundaries and authentic growth, noting that every company—regardless of industry—is fundamentally a marketing and sales organization offering a unique service. Paul details how So Good Team leveraged a proprietary system for Google Business Profile posts, adapting as Google's AI Gemini changed the landscape for local search. Their focus shifted from traditional PPC, LSA, and SEO to Google Maps and AI optimization, resulting in substantial growth even during down years for the industry. The episode provides tactical advice for contractors looking to improve their online visibility with Google AI overview searches. Paul breaks down the new game: AI pulls answers from YouTube and Reddit first, making educational video content and interactive Reddit participation essential. He outlines steps for leveraging FAQs and blogs, discussing the critical role of local relevance and linking strategies that connect Reddit conversations to a business's website. Jen and Paul emphasize the value of creating content that answers real consumer questions, especially around pricing, transparency, and what makes your business unique in its market. Throughout the conversation, Paul shares soft truths about self-leadership, imposter syndrome, and burnout—framing pain points as growth points—and highlights the power of knowing your numbers, holding yourself accountable, and building systems that keep your business healthy amid constant change. The episode closes with actionable suggestions and genuine insights for listeners navigating the messy middle of entrepreneurship in the trades, and why connection matters more than quick wins.   Timestamps: 00:00 - Welcome & Introduction: Jen sets the stage for actionable marketing insights 01:23 - Paul Olsen's Background: From trades to CEO and chief innovator 02:10 - The Koala Cooling Story & Transition to So Good Team 05:31 - Google Maps Optimization & Proprietary System Explained 06:13 - Dropping PPC/LSA & Growth with Google Maps Marketing 09:02 - Every Company as a Marketing Company: Why lead generation is essential 11:13 - Lessons from the trenches: Scaling service businesses, leadership, and accountability 12:16 - Google's Gemini Update & AI Shifts in Search Strategy 14:21 - YouTube, Blogs, FAQs, and Reddit: Tactics for AI Search Optimization 22:16 - Local Relevance in Content: Linking blog content and Reddit answers 27:27 - Google Business Profile: Algorithm, posting strategies, and photo relevance 30:22 - Departmentalizing GBP for Multi-Service Businesses 32:20 - Google's Shift to AI Overview & Commerce Platform Trends Connect with Paul Olsen / SO Good: Paul Olsen Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mustangv8302 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/paul_olsen SO Good Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/teamsogood/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/teamsogood/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/teamsogood_/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@sogoodteam Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@teamsogood_ Website: https://sogoodteam.com/ Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    39 min
  4. APR 7

    Moxie Meets Machine: Roslyn Fitzgibbons on Balancing Brand Energy & Systems in Service Business Marketing

    In this episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee welcomes Roslyn Fitzgibbons—co-founder of Eco Plumbers and founder of Bring Your Moxie—to talk about the power of community for leaders in the trades and the critical balance between business systems and people-first growth. The conversation begins with Roslyn's journey from being heads-down in operations for nearly two decades to intentionally seeking out new connections. Roslyn shares the pivotal moment she decided to build her own Personal Board of Directors (peabod group), emphasizing that true camaraderie and support often begin when you're bold enough to ask for it. Jen and Roslyn open up about the common loneliness that entrepreneurs and leaders face—especially women in male-dominated industries—and how finding your people can be a game changer. They discuss tactical steps to build authentic community, share personal stories of vulnerability, and highlight how reaching out for support isn't just helpful, it's essential for growth and resilience. Roslyn dives into the mechanics of creating operational and owner-focused groups, showing how targeted peer relationships can spark new perspective and collective encouragement. The episode then gets granular on the often-missed balance between moxie—the vision, spirit, and drive behind a business—and the "machine," which is the structure and systems that keep an organization running smoothly. Roslyn explains how too much forward motion without process creates burnout and chaos, while over-indexing on structure can stifle creativity and slow momentum. Together, Jen and Roslyn examine real-world examples from marketing strategy to company culture, breaking down how leaders can move quickly and still retain accountability, and why meaningful change comes from consistent, values-driven action, not just big bursts of energy. Wrapping up, the discussion turns personal as Jen and Roslyn talk about sustainability in business and life. They swap stories about intentional boundaries, staying consistent with fitness, and designing systems to fight decision fatigue—at work and at the gym. Roslyn's key to growth is finding fulfillment by aligning goals with values, building a strong peer community, and balancing the energetic drive with intentional structure. Practical, heartfelt, and relatable, this episode is a must-listen for anyone in the messy middle of building something meaningful. Timestamps and Topics: 00:01 Community over isolation in leadership: why you need people who understand the journey 02:40 How to intentionally build your own peer group and the impact of a Personal Board of Directors 06:59 Vulnerability and sharing the hard parts—breaking the myth of effortless entrepreneurship 10:44 Roslyn's two decades scaling Eco Plumbers, and the evolution from operations to systems leadership 14:46 The essential balance between moxie (energy/vision) and machine (systems/process) in scaling a business 17:15 What great company culture really requires: balancing celebrations with accountability and growth 21:04 How this moxie-machine framework shows up in marketing strategy and branding for the trades 25:40 Consistency, marketing systems, and why implementation is everything 26:42 Personal systems for sustainable growth: willpower vs. structure, in fitness and business 31:17 Decision fatigue and the power of removing mental roadblocks for leaders Connect with Roslyn Fitzgibbons: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Bring-Your-Moxie/61576215902298/# LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roslyn-fitzgibbons-35b724a1/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bringyourmoxie/ Website: https://bringyourmoxie.com/ Contact Number: +16143782710 Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    36 min
  5. MAR 31

    Letting Go to Grow: How Kaela Reedy Reframes Marketing for the Trades

    In this episode of The Kee to Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee sits down with Kaela Reedy, founder of Elevated HQ, to talk about the wins and messy challenges of building and simplifying operational systems in the trades. The conversation kicks off with Kaela sharing her move from general manager at Pink Collars to launching Elevated HQ, a consulting firm focused on guiding trades companies toward operational and strategy excellence. Kaela gets real about the need for intentional boundaries and making the shift from owner-dependent chaos to a business that can run and grow with or without you. Jen and Kaela dig deep into the practical side of 90-day sprints, EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System), and the balancing act of setting big, even "impossible," goals versus getting lost in to-do list overwhelm. Kaela challenges the idea of small incremental growth, instead encouraging business owners to look at what would truly move the needle if they aimed radically higher—and what systems, cultural changes, and personal growth that actually demands. The pair discuss how both hard and soft skills come into play: from mapping the customer journey and simplifying offers, to overcoming imposter syndrome when transitioning out of daily operations. The episode also explores the unique aspects of scaling a service-based business in the trades, from upping your marketing playbook to fit new revenue goals to getting real about owner exit planning—whether that means selling, succession, or just carving out a life as more than the business. Kaela shares stories about founders who sell only to realize their identity was wrapped up in the day-to-day, and what it takes to nurture a team and culture that delivers long after you've let go of the reins. Listeners will find tactical insight and candid stories—no empty buzzwords—about everything from mapping out the customer experience, to tackling owner dependence, to the emotional reality of what happens when you finally get a business that runs without you. If you're craving actionable strategies alongside empathetic truth-telling, this conversation is a must-listen. Timestamps & Topics 00:00 Welcome to The Kee to Growth Podcast, Jen's intro and conference update 01:42 Meet Kaela Reedy and the mission of Elevated HQ 02:23 Kaela's transition from Pink Collars to strategic operations consulting 03:58 Why Kaela is committed to EOS and the power of 90-day sprints for traction 08:00 Setting "impossible" goals: going from 1 million to 10 million and the filter shift required 10:33 The importance of simple offers and clear customer pathways for service-based businesses 12:20 How scaling in the trades really happens—acquisition, adding new trades, and marketing to your warm audience 16:01 What "simplifying operations" looks like in real life, and why recurring maintenance agreements build value 18:44 The power of understanding your P&L: diagnostics, route optimization, and business clarity 20:05 Owner dependence, letting go, and building a self-sustaining team 25:28 The key to growth: why simplifying and systems are non-negotiable for lasting success Connect with Kaela Reedy Website: www.elevatedhq.com Linked In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaela-reedy/ Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    31 min
  6. MAR 24

    People Over Profits: How Dustin Vetter Scaled with Social Media and Authentic Branding

    In this episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee sits down with Dustin Vetter, the founder of Fast Air Repair, to uncover the real-life journey behind scaling a home service business from the ground up. Recorded live at EPIC in Las Vegas, Jen gets personal with Dustin about his unlikely path into entrepreneurship—learning HVAC in prison, overcoming adversity, and building a company known for both its results and people-first culture. With vulnerability and authenticity, Dustin shares what most leaders keep behind closed doors: the uncertainty, the messy middle, and how intentional alignment—not hustle—drives sustainable growth. Dustin describes his initial days solo in the field, bootstrapping his business with 7-day work weeks, no-charge service calls, and social media hustle. The conversation dives into how building operational systems and hiring the right team allowed him to shift from survival mode to intentional business development. Dustin's story pulls back the curtain on the mindset required to scale—acknowledging when he needed help, channeling growth points into learning, and embracing the emotional highs and lows of leading a team while staying grounded and genuinely connected to his why. Marketing and visibility become central themes as Jen and Dustin explore the pivotal role of personal branding, content creation, and investing strategically (even when the numbers felt uncomfortable). Dustin gets tactical about leveraging social media, sharing how a simple rebrand and the power of video content led to recognition far beyond his immediate market—and why empowering customer-facing team members as the face of the brand builds trust faster than any paid ad could. For Dustin, reputation in the community comes down to people over profits and fostering a culture that allows team members to grow into their strengths. Throughout the episode, Jen keeps the conversation actionable—highlighting the importance of business fundamentals (pricing, automation, process), healthy leadership boundaries, and knowing that the key to growth isn't in a magic bullet or "bro-marketing" language, but in consistently making aligned decisions. The discussion honors the messy middle while proving that anyone—even those whose stories don't fit the glossy LinkedIn narrative—can create a thriving, sustainable business with heart and vision. Timestamps and Topics: 00:00 Welcome and The Growth Experience Conference announcement 02:04 Dustin Vetter introduction and how Fast Air Repair began 04:20 Dustin's background, learning HVAC in prison, and early struggles 05:05 Bootstrapping: from solo operator to hiring the first team member 06:05 Bringing Jen (his wife) into the business and building the core team 07:12 Social media as a lead source, strategy, and the role of Facebook groups 09:10 The value of brand and rebranding: community recognition story 10:56 Leadership and growth: building a team, shifting from technician to owner 14:11 Continuous learning: business acumen, accounting, and scaling mindset 16:03 Marketing results: Facebook ads, content, and keys to local reputation 18:05 Team culture: soft skills, hiring for personality, and customer experience Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    24 min
  7. MAR 17

    Women in HVACR & the Art of Smart Marketing with Ruth King

    In this episode of The Kee to Growth Podcast, Jen McKee sits down with Ruth King—a powerhouse in home services and a true trailblazer for women in HVACR. From her beginnings in the industry in 1987 to co-founding Women in HVACR, Ruth shares the "messy middle" of starting an organization that has grown from awarding a single $1,000 scholarship to distributing $55,000 in scholarships. The conversation explores the importance of creating intentional communities, especially for those forging new paths in male-dominated industries, and how leadership grounded in connection fuels sustainable growth. The episode moves into the realities of financial management for service-based businesses, with Ruth debunking common myths and advocating for accrual-based accounting as the foundation for profit-first clarity. She explains why most business owners are running their companies "out of a checkbook" and offers tactical advice for moving toward financial alignment. Her insights call out the dangers of using generalized AI tools (like ChatGPT) for financial decisions, underscoring the need for industry-specific solutions to interpret P&L statements meaningfully. Jen and Ruth don't shy away from the emotional and cultural aspects of growth, covering imposter syndrome and the challenges of communicating value in pricing. They discuss the fine line between offering "loss leaders" and creating sustainable offers that actually serve customers. The conversation keeps it real about using branding, storytelling, and systems to elevate both your numbers and your mindset—with a recurring emphasis that business grows at the speed of your own healing and self-leadership. Tying it all together, the episode unlocks tactical marketing strategies that go beyond guru lingo. Ruth breaks down the reality behind advertising spends, the importance of open book management, and the balance between time and money as resources shift during the business journey. The episode closes with actionable takeaways: measure what matters, invest wisely (both time and dollars), and above all—consistently do the work, learning from every test along the way. Episode Topics and Timestamps: 00:00 – Welcome to Kee to Growth and the launch of The Growth Experience conference 02:10 – Ruth King's intro, industry background, and co-founding Women in HVACR 03:35 – Early days of Women in HVACR and why it was needed 07:15 – Why graphs are game-changers for financial clarity 10:26 – Pitfalls of running a business on a cash basis and the importance of accrual accounting 12:11 – How to evaluate your marketing spend and calculate ROI beyond the top line 16:03 – Brand-building spend vs. lead-gen marketing—the "dartboard" dilemma 20:56 – Pricing strategies, profit margins, and when to raise prices intentionally 24:17 – Open book management and culture-building rooted in profit transparency 29:03 – Is there a one-size-fits-all answer for your marketing budget? (Spoiler: No, but you'll get a framework) Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    39 min
  8. MAR 10

    Hyper-Targeted Marketing for Growth: Michelle Jeppesen's Playbook for Home Service Pros

    In this inspiring episode of The Kee To Growth Podcast, host Jen McKee sits down with Michelle Jeppesen of Sendgym for a practical, down-to-earth conversation on marketing and mindset in the home services industry. Drawing from a decade in the trades, Michelle shares her journey from running a CSR call center to developing hyper-targeted marketing tools for home service pros, unraveling how psychology can transform both customer experience and marketing results. Together, Jen and Michelle explore the emotional highs and lows of entrepreneurship, balance hard marketing tactics with authentic leadership, and address the real ways business owners can build sustainable growth through alignment rather than overnight gimmicks. Whether you're an owner scaling from $1 million to $10 million or just looking to strengthen your roots, this episode is packed with actionable ways to become "5-mile famous"—Michelle's approach for saturating your ideal local market and being unforgettable in your community. They highlight strategies from geofencing and hyper-targeted direct mail to social media branding, and connect every tactic back to real human behavior (hello, brain calories). You'll hear how consistency in marketing—texting, postcards, yard signs, and even thoughtful gifts—builds trust, fosters repeat business, and aligns your brand with what consumers actually need. The conversation takes a deeper dive into remarketing, explaining the difference between lead issues and sales issues, and how testing your offers is key to aligned growth. From best practices for digital ads and postcard ROI, to creative touches like lumpy mail and ringless voicemail, Michelle and Jen demystify how service businesses can stay relevant during longer buying cycles and build lasting relationships rather than quick wins. They also touch on the mental and emotional sides of entrepreneurship—how posting about your business on social media isn't "being annoying," it's fulfilling your responsibility as a business owner to be seen, trusted, and remembered. Jen wraps the episode by asking Michelle her signature question: What's the key to growth? Michelle's answer—consistent saturation—ties back to the foundation of branding, marketing, and nurturing both leads and customers. If you want to unlock the secrets behind operational efficiency, profit-first clarity, healthy intentional boundaries, and leveraging AI tools for modern marketing visibility, this conversation is a must-listen. You'll walk away with practical ideas, mindset shifts, and the encouragement to keep showing up authentically for yourself and your audience. Time stamps and topics discussed: 00:00 Welcome and introduction to The Kee To Growth Podcast and upcoming San Antonio event 02:30 Michelle Jeppesen's story in home services and transition from CSR training to marketing 04:45 The psychology behind customer service and how business is rooted in understanding why people buy 05:50 Sendgym marketing techniques: geofencing, hyper-targeting, and glitter marketing versus focused lead generation 06:44 What it means to become "5-mile famous" and best practices for neighborhood saturation 07:55 Practical ways to market locally: digital ads, yard signs, branded trucks, and automated postcards 08:35 ROI and lifespan of postcards, studies on touchpoints, and real-world results from neighbor mailings 12:45 Marketing trends: why consumers require more touchpoints and how the buying cycle is becoming longer 12:46 Remarketing and texting as powerful tools for nurturing leads and customers 14:26 Automating follow-up, leveraging broadcast texts, and the speed-to-lead culture 20:03 Lessons from millions of postcards: why the offer matters most, dollar-off vs. percentage-off, and creative A/B testing 24:18 Making offers clear, the importance of testing, and adapting creative for digital and print platforms 24:33 Ringless voicemail and lumpy mail—using gifts and thoughtful gestures to nurture leads and create loyalty 27:23 Identifying lead versus sales issues, mindset of constant marketing testing, and why personal branding truly matters 27:35 Michelle's key to growth: consistent saturation and being unforgettable Meet Your Host: Jen McKee Jen McKee is the founder of Kee Hart Marketing & Events, specializing in award-winning social media strategies for trade services. With expertise in content creation and personal branding, she helps businesses forge authentic connections with their audiences. As the host of the "Kee to Growth" podcast, Jen simplifies marketing strategies and empowers businesses to thrive. Tune in for actionable insights and inspiring stories to elevate your brand! Connect with Jen on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.hartman.73/ or LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-mckee-72114824/ Listening on a desktop & can't see the links? Just search for Kee to Growth in your favorite podcast player. The Kee to Growth Podcast is Powered by: Kee Hart Marketing, the social media company for the trades. Learn more at www.keehartmarketing.com This episode was produced and brought to you by the Skilled Trades Syndicate @ServiceBusinessMasteryPodcast https://www.servicebusinessmastery.com/

    28 min

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Welcome to The Kee to Growth, the ultimate podcast for trade business owners ready to level up their marketing game! Hosted by marketing maven Jen McKee, this show dives deep into the strategies, tools, and insights you need to dominate the digital landscape. Specializing in TikTok marketing for trades, Jen shares her expertise to help you turn clicks into customers and viewers into lifelong clients. Whether you're a seasoned pro or just getting started in the trades, The Kee to Growth delivers actionable tips, inspiring success stories, and the latest trends in marketing tailored just for your industry. Tune in, take notes, and unlock the key to exponential growth for your business!

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