The ND Gap

Jordan Robertson
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Naturopathic medicine is at a crossroads. The potential of our profession has never been greater, and yet the challenges we face threaten our future. The ND Gap is the podcast that tackles that space in between: the gap between where naturopathic medicine is today, and where it needs to go to survive, thrive, and earn legitimacy in modern healthcare. Hosted by Jordan Robertson, ND: clinician, researcher, and founder of The Confident Clinician Club, this show supports your business growth, gives clinical insights and highlights stars in our community.

  1. 4D AGO

    Leading Without Permission: Expanding the Role of NDs in Primary Care with Dr. Emma Pollon-MacLeod

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Emma Pollon-MacLeod, ND and CEO of NutriChem Pharmacy, to explore what it takes to expand the role of naturopathic medicine within the broader healthcare system. From growing up inside an integrative pharmacy model to now leading a multidisciplinary team, Emma shares how collaboration between pharmacists, physicians, and naturopathic doctors can move from theory into practice. They discuss why NDs sometimes hold themselves back from entering collaborative spaces, how trust is built with other healthcare providers, and the mindset shift required to lead across professions. The conversation also explores the role of structure and leadership in scaling impact, and why clarity and confidence matter more than perfection. This is a conversation about stepping into rooms you already belong in and helping redefine what collaborative, patient-centred care can look like. ---- Dr. Emma Pollon-MacLeod, ND, is the CEO of NutriChem, an integrative health hub that uniquely brings together a naturopathic clinic and a compounding pharmacy under one roof. Since stepping into the CEO role, Emma has been leading the evolution of NutriChem’s 45-year legacy, honouring its foundation while setting a higher standard for modern integrative healthcare. Under her leadership, pharmacists and naturopathic doctors work side by side with a shared philosophy: we personalize your prevention. As a clinician, Dr. Emma specializes in perimenopause and menopause care. She is a Menopause Society Certified Practitioner, with a background in biochemistry and over a decade of clinical experience as a naturopathic doctor. With the combined perspective of being a clinician and married to a pharmacist, Emma is deeply committed to advancing evidence-informed integrative medicine that meaningfully improves long-term health outcomes. Discover NutriChem Connect with NutriChem on Instagram  Connect with Dr. Emma on Instagram ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    54 min

  2. MAR 26

    Think About Your Thinking: The Skill That Changes Everything

    In this solo episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson explores the concept of “thinking about your thinking” and why it’s one of the most important and underdeveloped skills in clinical practice. She breaks down how biases, early assumptions, and outdated beliefs can persist long after new evidence emerges, and why many clinicians struggle to fully let go of what they once believed. Through real-world examples, Jordan introduces the idea of a “factory reset” in clinical decision making, the ability to pause, reassess, and adopt new information without carrying forward old assumptions. This episode is a deep dive into cognitive flexibility, perspective-taking, and the personal development required to practice modern, evidence-informed medicine. ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    37 min

  3. MAR 19

    The Missing Piece in Pediatric Health with Dr. Erika Krumbeck, ND

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Erika Krumbeck to explore what it actually looks like to practice in this space in a way that is both evidence-informed and realistic for families. They discuss the tension between ideal recommendations and what families can realistically implement, how treatment plans can unintentionally overwhelm parents, and why supporting the parent-child relationship is often more impactful than any intervention. The conversation also explores prevention, the language used around food and health, and how some common messaging in the profession may be contributing to unintended consequences. This is an honest and grounded discussion about pediatric care, not as it’s imagined, but as it actually shows up in practice. https://naturopathicpediatrics.com/ Connect with Dr. Krumbeck on LinkedIn Connect with Dr. Krumbeck on Instagram  ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    56 min

  4. MAR 12

    Gut Health Without the Guesswork with Dr. Rachael Lovink, ND

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Rachael Lovink, ND, a naturopathic doctor specializing in chronic gut conditions and disorders of gut-brain interaction. Jordan opens the conversation by sharing something many clinicians quietly experience: gut health can feel incredibly difficult to manage in practice. When the solutions aren’t obvious, it can be challenging to know where to start or how to confidently guide patients through chronic symptoms like bloating, constipation, or IBS. Together, Jordan and Rachael unpack why gut health often feels so confusing for practitioners, how clinical training and industry messaging shape the way clinicians approach testing and treatment, and why so many patients end up cycling through expensive protocols that don’t always deliver lasting results. This episode is an honest conversation about where gut health care can go wrong and how clinicians can approach it differently. Connect with Dr. Lovink on Instagram  ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    41 min

  5. MAR 5

    The Problem With Treating Colds and Flus

    In this episode of The ND Gap, Dr. Jordan Robertson dives into one of the most common clinical presentations we see every year: colds and flus. But this isn’t a basic immune protocol conversation. Jordan unpacks how clinicians tend to overcomplicate immune support, where prevention and treatment often get blurred together, and why more supplements are not always the answer. She walks through how she approaches acute viral illness in practice, including dosing, timing, and managing patient expectations during cold and flu season. This episode is about clinical clarity. It’s about understanding what actually moves the needle in acute care versus what simply adds noise, and it’s about refining your reasoning so that your protocols are intentional, not reactive. If you want to feel more confident and streamlined in how you approach immune cases this season, this conversation offers a practical framework you can apply immediately. ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  Book a demo with our team here ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    33 min

  6. FEB 26

    The Confidence Gap in Naturopathic Medicine with Jeanette Titus and Victoria Gasparini

    In this candid conversation, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with new graduates Jeanette Titus and Victoria Gasparini, hosts of Girls Gone Wellness, to talk about what it’s really like inside ND education, and what needs to change. From conflicting clinical philosophies and exam bias to the culture of “naturopathic elders,” Vic and Jeanette share the challenges of navigating a system where evidence, tradition, and identity often collide. This episode is honest, vulnerable, and hopeful. If you care about the future of naturopathic medicine, this conversation matters. Explore the Girls Gone Wellness Podcast here Follow Girls Gone Wellness on Instagram here ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    54 min

  7. FEB 19

    No More Secret Protocols: Elevating the ND Profession with Dr. Bobby Parmar and Dr. Paul Maximus

    In this powerful conversation, Dr. Jordan Robertson sits down with Dr. Bobby Parmar and Dr. Paul Maximus, founders of Gravity Health Clinics, to explore what it really means to elevate the naturopathic profession. From launching one of the most respected iron infusion trainings in Canada to expanding clinics across provincial boundaries, Bobby and Paul share how relentless learning, clinical rigour, and intellectual humility have shaped their careers. This episode is bold, honest, and deeply motivating for clinicians who want to practice better medicine. If you’ve ever wondered how to grow without compromising your standards, this one is for you. Follow Dr. Bobby on Instagram  Follow Dr. Paul on Instagram Explore Gravity Health Listen to the Off The Charts Podcast ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    1h 7m

  8. FEB 12

    The CEO of Your Health. Rethinking Maintenance and Long-Term Success

    This week on The ND Gap, we tackle one of the most important and under-discussed parts of clinical care: maintenance. Too often, we frame symptom resolution like winning the lottery. Do the work for 12 weeks, cross the finish line, and everything should feel easier from there. But for most chronic conditions, the real work actually begins after symptoms improve. Jordan explores how the language we use shapes patient expectations around long-term success, why relapse is so common when maintenance isn’t properly framed, and how metabolic adaptation in weight care is a powerful example of what happens when we treat health like a short-term sprint instead of a lifelong promotion. In this episode, she introduces a new metaphor, moving from worker to CEO, to help clinicians reframe maintenance as a shift in identity and leadership, not a reward for short-term effort. If you work with chronic disease, metabolic health, weight loss, or any condition that requires long-term behaviour change, this conversation will reshape how you talk about success from day one. Explore the Vista Lite Course: https://discover.theconfidentclinicianclub.com/vista-lite-register-1 ---- Welcome back to The ND Gap, the podcast about the space between where naturopathic medicine is today and where it needs to go. Hosted by Dr. Jordan Robertson, founder of The Confident Clinician, this show is about legitimizing, strengthening, and ultimately saving  Each week, The ND Gap will close the distance with four pillars: Clinical insights grounded in evidence Business strategies for sustainable practice Personal leadership for growth and resilience The voices of NDs who are reshaping what this profession can be Whether you’re a brand-new graduate or a seasoned clinician, this is your space to find strategies you can use right away, inspiration from your peers, and a bigger vision for the future of naturopathic medicine. Because if we want to secure the future of our profession, we can’t wait for it to happen; we have to build it together. When you're ready to join our clinician community, you can learn more at ⁠www.confidentclinicianclub.com  ---- Dr. Jordan Robertson is a leader in naturopathic and integrative medicine. She is dedicated to evidence-based healthcare and founded The Confident Clinician, which empowers practitioners with up-to-date research and practical tools. With over 15 years in clinical practice and experience teaching at McMaster University’s Health Sciences program, she bridges the gap between research and real-world application. ⁠Follow Dr. Jordan on Instagram

    27 min
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Naturopathic medicine is at a crossroads. The potential of our profession has never been greater, and yet the challenges we face threaten our future. The ND Gap is the podcast that tackles that space in between: the gap between where naturopathic medicine is today, and where it needs to go to survive, thrive, and earn legitimacy in modern healthcare. Hosted by Jordan Robertson, ND: clinician, researcher, and founder of The Confident Clinician Club, this show supports your business growth, gives clinical insights and highlights stars in our community.

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  • Creator
    Jordan Robertson
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    28
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Jordan Robertson
  • Show Website
    The ND Gap

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