The Water Data Podcast

WELL Labs

The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water hosted by Veena Srinivasan. Every other Tuesday, sit down and listen to researchers, innovators, government officials and business leaders working on the forefront of water systems.  Veena Srinivasan is an award-winning socio-hydrologist as well as the founder and Executive Director of WELL Labs, a water systems research and innovation centre based in Bengaluru, India.  The Water Data Podcast features discussions on what data and research tell us about water systems, about how climate change is affecting them and how human use of water is transforming the stock and flow of water across diverse landscapes and aquifers. The show focuses on how we can collectively manage water systems better. Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app - and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel.

  1. Water Security: 80 Years of Global Water Policy with Dr Roberto Lenton

    3d ago

    Water Security: 80 Years of Global Water Policy with Dr Roberto Lenton

    Where did the idea of “water security” come from? How did countries around the world come to agree on shared goals for drinking water, sanitation, river basin management and sustainable development? And why does water still lack the kind of global institutional architecture that exists for climate change and biodiversity? In this episode, Dr Roberto Lenton, one of the world’s leading voices on water security and international development joins host Veena Srinivasan for a conversation on the evolution of global water policy over the last eight decades. Roberto has spent more than six decades working across engineering, research, philanthropy, global institutions and water policy. His career has taken him from the Ford Foundation in India to the founding of the International Irrigation Management Institute, now the International Water Management Institute (IWMI), and to being an early proponent of the Global Water Partnership. Drawing on his book, Confronting Water Insecurity: Global Institutions and the Transformation of Water Science, Policy and Practice, Roberto traces the history of global water cooperation from the creation of the United Nations after World War II to the Sustainable Development Goals and the water challenges ahead. Veena and Roberto discuss why global water institutions emerged after 1945, how UNESCO came to host the International Hydrological Programme, and how the Harvard Water Programme helped shape early ideas around integrated planning and managing water for multiple purposes. The conversation also explores the first UN Water Conference at Mar del Plata in 1977, the International Drinking Water Supply and Sanitation Decade, the Dublin Principles, the Rio Earth Summit, the Millennium Development Goals and Sustainable Development Goal 6. Roberto explains how the term “water security” became more than a question of water scarcity. It brought together drinking water, sanitation, irrigation, floods, droughts, pollution, ecosystems and resilience into one wider framework. The episode also examines the more difficult side of global water governance: the accountability mechanisms that emerged around dams and development projects, the limits of privatisation-led reforms, and the reasons why global institutions have often struggled to translate new ideas into real improvements on the ground. Finally, Veena and Roberto look ahead to the future of water governance in a changing world shaped by climate extremes, AI data centres, demographic shifts and growing scepticism about multilateral cooperation. They ask whether water needs a stronger global science-policy mechanism, perhaps something equivalent to the IPCC for climate change. The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water, hosted by Veena Srinivasan. For all references and further readings related to the episode, visit https://welllabs.org/wdp-robert-lenton/ Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app—and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel @welllabs. Subscription links: Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, Amazon Music, Audible, Castbox, and wherever you get your podcasts!  Recording by Vraj Acharya and Nabina Chakraborty. Video editing by Srisabari Varaguna Pandian. Graphics and artwork by Aparna Nambiar, Kanishka Goyal and Oishika Goswami. Audio mixing and mastering by Vijay Doiphode. Podcast production and management by Nabina Chakraborty and Pavan Srinath.

    58 min
  2. Water Accounting across Scales with Wim Bastiannsen

    Jun 23

    Water Accounting across Scales with Wim Bastiannsen

    How can satellites measure crop water use from space? Can they help farmers irrigate more precisely, improve yields, and make water distribution fairer across canal systems? In this episode of the Water Data Podcast, Veena Srinivasan speaks with Professor Wim Bastiaanssen, a pioneer in satellite-based evapotranspiration mapping and the original developer of SEBAL — the Surface Energy Balance Algorithm. Professor Bastiaanssen explains how satellite imagery can estimate actual evapotranspiration, soil moisture, crop water stress, and irrigation performance by combining land-surface temperature, vegetation data, and the surface energy balance. The conversation traces the journey from early field validation of SEBAL to its application across farms, irrigation systems, and river basins around the world. Wim and Veena discuss how farmers can use simple satellite-based advisories to identify dry patches in their fields, prevent crop stress, and use water more productively. They also explore how the same data can help irrigation agencies understand whether canal water is reaching head-end and tail-end farmers equitably. The episode further examines water accounting, data-model integration, the commercialisation of scientific tools, and the growth of platforms such as IrriWatch and HydroSat. It is a wide-ranging conversation on evapotranspiration, precision irrigation, water productivity, and how satellite data can support water security at scale. The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water, hosted by Veena Srinivasan. For all references and further readings related to the episode, visit https://welllabs.org/wim-bastiaanssen/ Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app—and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel @welllabs. Subscription links: Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, Amazon Music, Audible, Castbox, and wherever you get your podcasts!  Recording by Anukriti Shaw, Nabina Chakraborty and Vraj Acharya and Video editing by Srisabari Varaguna Pandian. Graphics and artwork by Aparna Nambiar, Kanishka Goyal and Oishika Goswami. Audio mixing and mastering by Vijay Doiphode. Podcast production and management by Nabina Chakraborty and Pavan Srinath.

    51 min
  3. The Deep Politics of Canal Irrigation in India with Peter Mollinga

    Jun 11

    The Deep Politics of Canal Irrigation in India with Peter Mollinga

    Why do canal irrigation systems repeatedly produce head-tail inequality? Why do some farmers receive reliable water while others are systematically deprived for decades? In this episode, Veena Srinivasan speaks with Professor Peter Mollinga, a leading scholar of irrigation and water governance, about the politics of canal irrigation systems in India. Drawing from nearly 40 years of research on the Tungabhadra Left Bank Canal in Karnataka, the conversation explores the origins of “protective irrigation,” the spread of paddy cultivation, migration and agrarian change, groundwater salinity, farm ponds, irrigation reforms, and the political economy shaping canal systems across India. The episode examines why irrigation systems are never purely technical systems, but social and political systems shaped by power, institutions, incentives, and historical choices. The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water, hosted by Veena Srinivasan. For all references and further readings related to the episode, visit https://welllabs.org/wdp-peter-mollinga/ Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app—and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel @welllabs. Subscription links: Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, Amazon Music, Audible, Castbox, and wherever you get your podcasts!  Recording by Vraj Acharya, Anukriti Shaw and Nabina Chakraborty. Video editing by Srisabari Varaguna Pandian. Graphics and artwork by Aparna Nambiar and Oishika Goswami. Audio mixing and mastering by Vijay Doiphode. Podcast production and management by Nabina Chakraborty and Pavan Srinath.

    1h 6m
  4. California's Groundwater Governance Successes | Dr. Maurice Hall

    May 26

    California's Groundwater Governance Successes | Dr. Maurice Hall

    California’s groundwater crisis did not emerge overnight. Decades of unrestricted pumping, falling groundwater levels, land subsidence, disappearing streamflows, and recurring droughts eventually pushed the state toward one of the world’s most ambitious groundwater governance reforms: the Sustainable Groundwater Management Act (SGMA). In this episode of the Water Data Podcast, Dr. Maurice Hall, Senior Advisor for Climate Resilient Water Systems at the Environmental Defense Fund, joins host Veena Srinivasan to speak about California’s landmark Sustainable Groundwater Management Act (SGMA). The conversation explores how California’s unique water rights system shaped groundwater use, why the 2012–2016 drought became a turning point, and how local Groundwater Sustainability Agencies are now attempting to balance pumping, recharge, ecosystems, and agricultural demand across the state. Maurice explains the science behind land subsidence, disappearing streamflows, and groundwater depletion, while also unpacking how California invested heavily in groundwater monitoring, basin-scale models, satellite-based evapotranspiration tools like OpenET, and new approaches to managed aquifer recharge. The episode also reflects on what India can learn from California’s experience. While the political and agricultural contexts are very different, the challenges of groundwater depletion, fragmented governance, and delayed action resonate strongly across both regions. This episode offers a rare inside look into the science, politics, and institutional challenges of groundwater governance at scale. The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water, hosted by Veena Srinivasan. For all references and further readings related to the episode, visit https://welllabs.org/wdp-maurice-hall/ Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app—and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel @welllabs. Subscription links: Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, Amazon Music, Audible, Castbox, and wherever you get your podcasts!  Recording by Vraj Acharya and Nabina Chakraborty. Editing by Srisabari Varaguna Pandian. Graphics and artwork by Aparna Nambiar and Oishika Goswami. Audio mixing and mastering by Vijay Doiphode. Podcast production and management by Nabina Chakraborty and Pavan Srinath.

    1h 18m
  5. The Hidden Politics of Water Systems | Margreet Zwarteveen

    May 12

    The Hidden Politics of Water Systems | Margreet Zwarteveen

    Why is water never just a technical problem? Who gets water, who loses access, and who gets to decide? In this episode of the Water Data Podcast, Professor Margreet Zwarteveen, an internationally recognised scholar of water governance, irrigation, gender, and the politics of natural resources, joins host Veena Srinivasan, Executive Director at WELL Labs. Margreet Zwarteveen is Professor of Water Governance Education at IHE Delft and Professor of Governance and Inclusive Development at the University of Amsterdam. Trained first as an irrigation engineer and later as a social scientist, her work has shaped how we understand water as a deeply social and political resource. In this conversation, Margreet explains why every water intervention – whether it is a dam, canal, borewell, drip irrigation system or water market  , all make political choices. Technical designs decide who gets access to water, whose labour is recognised, whose land and water rights matter, and whose knowledge is ignored. The episode explores irrigation resettlement schemes, farmer participation, water titling, gender in irrigation engineering, the risks of narrow efficiency metrics, and the hidden politics behind “wise” water use. Margreet also discusses why women’s water work is often invisible, how borewells and infrastructure reshape water access, and why water governance must learn from everyday practices on the ground. The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water, hosted by Veena Srinivasan. For all references and further readings related to the episode, visit https://welllabs.org/wdp-margreet-zwarteveen/  Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app—and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel @welllabs. Subscription links: Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, Amazon Music, Audible, Castbox, and wherever you get your podcasts!  Recording by Nanditha Gogate and Nabina Chakraborty. Video editing by Vraj Acharya. Graphics and artwork by Aparna Nambiar and Kanishka Goyal. Audio mixing and mastering by Vijay Doiphode. Podcast production and management by Nabina Chakraborty and Pavan Srinath.

    1h 13m
  6. How Satellite Tech Imaged the Global Groundwater Crisis | James (Jay) Famiglietti

    Apr 28

    How Satellite Tech Imaged the Global Groundwater Crisis | James (Jay) Famiglietti

    How can a satellite measure water buried deep underground? What can space-based observations tell us about groundwater depletion across the world? And how is this data shaping the future of water policy and governance? Professor Jay Famiglietti, a leading hydrologist and former NASA scientist, joins host Veena Srinivasan on this episode of the Water Data Podcast to discuss the revolutionary GRACE satellite mission. Jay is a Global Futures Professor at Arizona State University and is widely known for developing methods to detect groundwater depletion from space. His work has reshaped how scientists and policymakers understand global water systems. In this episode, Jay and Veena unpack how GRACE measures tiny changes in Earth’s gravity to detect gains and losses in water mass. They explore how this technology has revealed major groundwater depletion hotspots across the world, including India, California, the Middle East, and China. The conversation also examines the complex relationship between climate change and human water use, and why these forces are deeply intertwined. Finally, they reflect on how satellite data is influencing policy from drought monitoring systems to groundwater governance and what the future holds for global hydrology. The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water, hosted by Veena Srinivasan. For all references and further readings related to the episode, visit here.  Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app—and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel @welllabs. Subscription links: Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, Amazon Music, Audible, Castbox, and wherever you get your podcasts!  Recording by Vraj Acharya and Nabina Chakraborty. Video editing by Nabina Chakraborty. Graphics and artwork by Aparna Nambiar and Kanishka Goyal. Audio mixing and mastering by Vijay Doiphode. Podcast production and management by Nabina Chakraborty and Pavan Srinath.

    56 min
  7. The Social Science of Water: Beyond Hydrology ft Trevor Birkenholtz | Water Data Podcast

    Mar 3

    The Social Science of Water: Beyond Hydrology ft Trevor Birkenholtz | Water Data Podcast

    What does water have to do with power, caste, labor, and economic policy? In this episode of the Water Data Podcast, Professor Trevor Birkenholtz (Penn State University) explains how political ecology helps us understand groundwater, irrigation, and large-scale water infrastructure in India. Trevor Birkenholtz is a political ecologist and development geographer with regional interests in South Asia and the United States. His empirical interests are in water-supply development, water infrastructure, wetlands and the politics of environmental change. This conversation explores how water systems are shaped not just by engineering, but by power, history, caste, labor, and policy decisions. How do subtle reservoir rule changes dispossess farmers? And why is urban “drinking water” often an industrial demand? This episode is essential listening for researchers, policymakers, and practitioners working at the intersection of water, agriculture, and development. For all references and further readings related to the episode, visit https://welllabs.org/wdp-trevor-birkenholtz/  The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water hosted by Veena Srinivasan.  For all references and further readings related to the episode, visit Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app – and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel @welllabs. Subscription links: Youtube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube Music, Amazon Music, Audible, Castbox, and wherever you get your podcasts!  Recording by Vraj Acharya and Nabina Chakraborty. Video editing by Vraj Acharya. Graphics and artwork by Aparna Nambiar and Kanishka Goyal. Audio mixing and mastering by Vijay Doiphode. Podcast production and management by Nabina Chakraborty and Pavan Srinath.

    1h 16m

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The Water Data Podcast is a talk show on the science, systems, and stories of water hosted by Veena Srinivasan. Every other Tuesday, sit down and listen to researchers, innovators, government officials and business leaders working on the forefront of water systems.  Veena Srinivasan is an award-winning socio-hydrologist as well as the founder and Executive Director of WELL Labs, a water systems research and innovation centre based in Bengaluru, India.  The Water Data Podcast features discussions on what data and research tell us about water systems, about how climate change is affecting them and how human use of water is transforming the stock and flow of water across diverse landscapes and aquifers. The show focuses on how we can collectively manage water systems better. Subscribe to The Water Data Podcast on your favourite podcast app - and catch video episodes on the WELL Labs YouTube channel.

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