The Ways We Move +

Nicolas Zart

THE WAYS WE MOVE + — Season 2 🚀 The podcast for professionals who need to understand where mobility is actually going — not where the press releases say it is. Hosted by Nicolas Zart — Mobility Futurist, Strategic Intelligence Lead, and 20-year veteran of electric mobility and Advanced Air Mobility — The Ways We Move goes one layer deeper than mainstream coverage.  Each episode features unfiltered primary-source conversations with the founders, CEOs, engineers, DoD program leads, and infrastructure developers who are doing the real work. No hype. No headlines recycled. Just the signal. What we cover: Advanced Air Mobility — eVTOL certification, infrastructure, capital risk, and the OEM landscapeHydrogen and alternative propulsion — the real engineering trade-offs, not the talking pointsElectric mobility across air, land, and seaEmerging defense and dual-use aviation technologyThe business models, financial structures, and policy frameworks that determine what actually gets built Who listens: Capital allocators, project finance professionals, infrastructure developers, aviation executives, DoD program leads, policy analysts, and anyone making decisions that depend on knowing what's real in advanced mobility. Why subscribe: Because the gap between what gets announced and what actually happens is where the most important intelligence lives. Nicolas has spent 20 years finding that gap — and talking directly to the people on both sides of it. Early access subscribers hear every episode 48 hours before public release. Back catalog subscribers get access to the full archive of primary-source conversations — one of the most concentrated records of advanced mobility intelligence available anywhere. Subscribe now and stay ahead of the curve.

Episodes

  1. 5D AGO

    Supply Chain, Geopolitics & the Hidden AAM Opportunity — With Matt Lapin, International Trade Counsel at Wiley Rein

    Tell us more about yourself and what you would like to hear! Matt Lapin is a counsel at Wiley Rein in Washington DC with a long background in international trade law — and in a sector where supply chain complexity, China de-risking, rare earth dependencies, and regulatory actions are reshaping everything, his perspective cuts through in ways the standard industry coverage doesn't reach. We cover what supply chain actually means for a disruptive emerging technology, why COVID was the first real proof that globalized supply chains were more fragile than anyone admitted, and how the US-China geopolitical conflict is producing both constraint and genuine opportunity for AAM manufacturers and operators. Matt breaks down the FCC's action against DJI, what the American Drone Dominance executive order signals about how the current administration views eVTOL, and why reading the policy two levels underneath the headline is the most important analytical skill anyone in this sector can develop right now. His closing advice: understand the rules that are actually in play — not the ones you assumed were in play a year ago — and challenge every first principle your strategy was built on, because uncertainty is no longer the exception. It's the operating condition. In this episode: 0:00 — The Trade Law Nerd Who Ended Up in Advanced Air Mobility 0:08 — Inside Wiley Rein: How International Trade Law Shapes Emerging Tech 1:08 — What "Supply Chain" Actually Means — And Why Everyone Gets It Wrong 3:22 — COVID's Real Legacy: The First Stress Test of Globalized Supply Chains 4:14 — The China Problem Is a Supply Chain Problem — And It's Not Going Away 5:40 — De-risking Without Decoupling: Why a Clean Break From China Isn't Happening 7:29 — Run Faster or Trip the Other Guy: How Policy Levers Actually Work 9:03 — What's Good for America Needs to Be Good for the Industry — Not the Other Way Around 11:25 — When the Government Decides Your Sector Is a National Security Asset 13:17 — The FCC's DJI Move: How a Regulatory Constraint Created a Domestic Drone Opportunity 15:39 — Rare Earths, Export Controls, and the Negotiation Hiding Inside the Tariff War 17:56 — How to Build Strategy When Uncertainty Is the Operating Condition 20:21 — The Rubik's Cube Mindset: Matt's Two Takeaways for Anyone in This Industry Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Bk51yRB4ZQQ And for previous episodes of the Ways We Move on your favorite podcast platforms, see:  ▶️ Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWaysWeMove📺 🔊 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-ways-we-move/id1797599255 🔊 🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4V0qe3eZqublwn6dasXWCf 🎧 🎙️ Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/cd3349e1-275f-4691-ae38-f1b6a153d5e5/the-ways-we-move 🎙️ 📻 iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-ways-we-move-268614085/ 📻 🌱 Buzzsprout: https://thewayswemove.buzzsprout.com/ 🗣️ 🎬 Patreon education and news analysis! https://www.patreon.com/c/TheWaysWeMove 🔒 📢 Support now: https://www.patreon.com/c/TheWaysWeMove Subscribe for more insights into the future of mobility and support the show! https://www.buzzsprout.com/2428454/supporters/new 📡

    1h 3m
  2. MAR 31

    Eternium Aerospace: First Principles Hydrogen Aviation and the Mindset Shift the Industry Needs

    Tell us more about yourself and what you would like to hear! What does it actually take to build a zero-emission aircraft that can fly 8,000 miles — transatlantic, fully electrified, cargo-capable — using hydrogen?  Not a better battery. Not a shinier fuel cell.  A complete rethink of how the systems relate to each other from the very beginning. Jared Semik is the founder and CEO of Eternium Aerospace Corporation, a Marine veteran with three combat deployments, and a 20-year aerospace R&D veteran responsible for roughly 20 proprietary technologies including a dual-rotor high-temperature superconductive motor. He's working on a cryogenic Brayton cycle propulsion architecture built on deconstructed NASA research — and a modular hydrogen production system designed to solve the infrastructure problem at the same time as the aircraft problem. Eternium is still in stealth mode, so Jared can't share everything. But what he does share raises a question that goes well beyond aviation: why do so many innovators walk away from the old system to build something new — and then immediately recreate the same financial models and business structures they were trying to escape? New technology. Same thinking. Different result? Not usually. This conversation covers hydrogen vs. batteries for aviation range, liquid vs. gaseous hydrogen trade-offs, why modularity fails when you're trying to change a paradigm, why critical mass in deep tech is a sociology problem as much as an engineering one, and what holistic systems thinking actually looks like in practice — in aerospace, in business, and in life. Chapters Introduction - 00:05 Guest Introduction - 04:33Discussion on Current Projects - 06:38Challenges in Mobility Industry - 18:48Energy Choices - 26:15Current Work and Innovations - 37:22Propulsion System Insights - 39:50Conclusion and Takeaways - 55:36Closing Remarks - 59:50Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/324AJrjEfeY And for previous episodes of the Ways We Move on your favorite podcast platforms, see:  ▶️ Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWaysWeMove📺 🔊 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-ways-we-move/id1797599255 🔊 🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4V0qe3eZqublwn6dasXWCf 🎧 🎙️ Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/cd3349e1-275f-4691-ae38-f1b6a153d5e5/the-ways-we-move 🎙️ 📻 iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-ways-we-move-268614085/ 📻 🌱 Buzzsprout: https://thewayswemove.buzzsprout.com/ 🗣️ 🎬 Patreon education and news analysis! https://www.patreon.com/c/TheWaysWeMove 🔒 📢 Support now: https://www.patreon.com/c/TheWaysWeMove Subscribe for more insights into the future of mobility and support the show! https://www.buzzsprout.com/2428454/supporters/new 📡 The Ways We Move covers innovative mobility solutions and the people behind them. Subscribe for weekly conversations with the founders, engineers, and thinkers reshaping how we travel. Support the show

    1h 1m
  3. MAR 26

    Verticon 2026: How the Helicopter Industry Really Views eVTOL — Bristow, Eve Air Mobility & Vertical Aerospace on Certification, Operations & What's Next

    Tell us more about yourself and what you would like to hear! Recorded live on the floor of Verticon 2026 — the world's premier rotorcraft event — this episode puts you inside three of the most important conversations happening at the intersection of traditional aviation and Advanced Air Mobility. — How Bristow Group views eVTOL as an expansion of rotorcraft operations, not a replacement — and what turnkey operational solutions look like in practice with Mandy Nelson of Bristow Group at the Vertical Aerospace booth — Why Eve Air Mobility's helicopter operator customer base is its strongest competitive differentiator, and how firm funded order conversions are progressing with Megha Bhatia, Chief Commercial Officer of Eve Air Mobility — The certification pathway differences between FAA Part 23/27, EASA SC-VTOL, and UK CAA frameworks — and why flying over schools and villages in the UK creates safety documentation requirements that are generating invaluable early learning for the entire industry A note on production quality: Nicolas's video camera and external microphone both failed on the day of recording. This episode was shot on a phone. The audio and video quality is not up to our usual standard and we sincerely apologize for that.  Chapters Introduction and Overview0:06 - Nicolas Zart introduces the podcast and shares his background in electric mobility.Vertical's eVTOL Mock-up2:41 - Introduction to Vertical's eVTOL mock-up and its features.Interview with Mandy from Bristow Group3:18 - Mandy Nelson discusses Bristow Group's involvement in Advanced Air Mobility.Eve Air Mobility at VertiCon 20265:24 - Megha Bhatia introduces E-Bare Mobility and their eVTOL.Safran's Electric Motor and Turbo Generator9:26 - Discussion on Safran's electric motor and turbo generator.Interview with Eric Barch from Verdeco Arrow10:26 - Eric Barch talks about VerdeGo Aero's hybrid electric power plant.Robinson's Drone and Autonomous Helicopter13:11 - Overview of Robinson's drone and autonomous helicopter.Panel Discussion on Advanced Air Mobility15:16 - Panel discussion with various industry leaders on the future of advanced air mobility.Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/5EM3eHpSsx8 And for previous episodes of The Ways We Move, see your favorite podcast platforms: ▶️ Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWaysWeMove📺 🔊 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-ways-we-move/id1797599255 🔊 🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4V0qe3eZqublwn6dasXWCf 🎧 🎙️ Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/cd3349e1-275f-4691-ae38-f1b6a153d5e5/the-ways-we-move 🎙️ 📻 iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-ways-we-move-268614085/ 📻 🌱 Buzzsprout: https://thewayswemove.buzzsprout.com/ 🗣️ 🎬 Patreon education and news analysis! https://www.patreon.com/c/TheWaysWeMove 🔒 📢 Support now: https://www.patreon.com/c/TheWaysWeMove Subscribe for more insights into the future of mobility and support the show! https://www.buzzsprout.com/2428454/supporters/new 📡 Subscribe to the Patreon member brief for extended analysis of everything covered in this episode — electricairmobility.news Support the show

    59 min
  4. MAR 19

    David Moseley: The Physicist Who Helped Build the Tesla Model S and Lucid Air From the Ground Up

    Tell us more about yourself and what you would like to hear! Nicolas Zart finally gets David Moseley on the podcast — and it was worth the wait.  David is a British physicist and automotive engineer who was present at two of the most pivotal moments in EV history: the early development of the Tesla Model S and the creation of the Lucid Air alongside Peter Rawlinson.  Humble, sharp, and full of hard-won insight, David walks us through what it actually takes to build an electric vehicle from the ground up — from reimagining crumple zones without a combustion engine to rethinking powertrain concepts entirely.  This is Part 1 of what will be a two-part conversation. Part 2 coming in approximately one month. Chapters: 0:00 - Introduction & David's Background 7:02 - Building the Tesla Model S From Scratch 13:03 - Lucid Air, Battery Tech & True EV Design 18:03 - Global EV Market & The Road Ahead 30:25 - Software Challenges & Industry Lessons 54:09 - Personal Mission & Closing Thoughts Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MD09Ne5tqM0 And for past episodes on your favorite podcast platforms, see: ▶️ Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheWaysWeMove📺 🔊 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-ways-we-move/id1797599255 🔊 🎧 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4V0qe3eZqublwn6dasXWCf 🎧 🎙️ Amazon Podcasts: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/cd3349e1-275f-4691-ae38-f1b6a153d5e5/the-ways-we-move 🎙️ 📻 iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-ways-we-move-268614085/ 📻 🌱 Buzzsprout: https://thewayswemove.buzzsprout.com/ 🗣️ 🎬 Patreon education and news analysis! https://www.patreon.com/c/TheWaysWeMove 🔒 📢 Support now: https://www.patreon.com/c/TheWaysWeMove Subscribe for more insights into the future of mobility and support the show! https://www.buzzsprout.com/2428454/supporters/new 📡

    59 min

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THE WAYS WE MOVE + — Season 2 🚀 The podcast for professionals who need to understand where mobility is actually going — not where the press releases say it is. Hosted by Nicolas Zart — Mobility Futurist, Strategic Intelligence Lead, and 20-year veteran of electric mobility and Advanced Air Mobility — The Ways We Move goes one layer deeper than mainstream coverage.  Each episode features unfiltered primary-source conversations with the founders, CEOs, engineers, DoD program leads, and infrastructure developers who are doing the real work. No hype. No headlines recycled. Just the signal. What we cover: Advanced Air Mobility — eVTOL certification, infrastructure, capital risk, and the OEM landscapeHydrogen and alternative propulsion — the real engineering trade-offs, not the talking pointsElectric mobility across air, land, and seaEmerging defense and dual-use aviation technologyThe business models, financial structures, and policy frameworks that determine what actually gets built Who listens: Capital allocators, project finance professionals, infrastructure developers, aviation executives, DoD program leads, policy analysts, and anyone making decisions that depend on knowing what's real in advanced mobility. Why subscribe: Because the gap between what gets announced and what actually happens is where the most important intelligence lives. Nicolas has spent 20 years finding that gap — and talking directly to the people on both sides of it. Early access subscribers hear every episode 48 hours before public release. Back catalog subscribers get access to the full archive of primary-source conversations — one of the most concentrated records of advanced mobility intelligence available anywhere. Subscribe now and stay ahead of the curve.