Two Blokes One Business

Harvey Rivers & Adam Powell

Two Blokes One Business is a weekly business podcast for entrepreneurs, founders, recruiters, and aspiring business owners who want real lessons on starting, growing, and scaling a business.Hosted by Harvey Rivers and Adam Powell, two ex-professional footballers who built HARWELL., a specialist recruitment agency that generated $1.25M in year one, $6M in year two, and ranked #5 on the Australian Financial Review's Top 100 Fast Starters. Every episode digs into what it actually takes to build, lead, and grow a company - including the decisions that paid off, the ones that didn't, and everything in between.In solo episodes, Harvey and Adam break down the lessons, mistakes, and strategies they wish someone had told them three years ago when they were starting out. In guest episodes, they sit down for candid conversations with Australia's top entrepreneurs, leaders, and world-class performance experts - to unpack what actually drives success in business and life.If you want practical insights on building a business, scaling a company, and making smarter moves as an entrepreneur, this is the podcast for you.New episodes published every week - subscribe now to level up your business journeyConnect with the Harwell. team: https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.harwell.au/

  1. 4D AGO

    He Went to Prison 6 Times Before He Became A Successful Entrepreneur | Ben Lowe

    He went to prison 6 times… was addicted to crystal meth for years… and nearly lost everything. In this week’s episode of Two Blokes One Business, the chaps are joined by Ben Lowe ( Founder of INTOCHANGE and The New Age Man Program). From dealing drugs and running from police - to becoming a successful entrepreneur and mentor for men. Ben breaks down the turning points that forced him to face his past, take responsibility, and completely transform who he was. This episode explored addiction recovery, masculinity, discipline, entrepreneurship, and fatherhood - and why so many men sabotage their potential through habits that keep them stuck. What This Episode Covers 👉 The hidden connection between entrepreneurship, dopamine, and addiction 👉 The truth about modern masculinity and leadership as a man 👉 Why your children are always watching the example you set as a father 👉 What it actually feels like walking out of prison for the first time 👉 Why many men replace drug addiction with work addiction 👉 The shocking moment that forced Ben to finally change his life 👉 How discipline and challenges like 75 Hard helped rebuild his identity 👉 The truth about addiction problems (and what they actually are) If you're a business owner, entrepreneur, father, or someone trying to build a better life, this conversation will hit hard. Key Moments: 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:00 Walking Out of Prison 00:04:00 The Slippery Slope of Drugs 00:07:00 The Turning Point 00:09:20 Criminal to Personal Trainer 00:11:00 The Armed Robbery Charge 00:14:00 The Mirror Moment 00:16:00 Identity and Sobriety 00:20:20 Why the "Why" Must Be Big Enough 00:24:00 Boredom and Sitting With Yourself 00:26:00 The Dopamine Treadmill 00:29:20 Addiction Shifts to Business 00:35:40 Using Your Story to Help Others 00:39:20 Building the Coaching Business 00:43:40 The Son Crying at the Door 00:45:00 Addiction Is Never the Real Problem 00:49:00 The Wheel of Life Audit 00:51:00 The Shifting Role of Men 00:57:40 Three Questions to Ask Yourself Now - 👉Connect with Ben Lowe https://www.instagram.com/benlowecoaching https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-lowe-759277275/ - 👉Connect with us https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast - Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL. HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce. Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team. 👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business? Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/

    1h 6m
  2. MAR 4

    Why Most People Never Start a Business (It’s Not Money)

    There’s something more painful than failing… It’s watching someone else build the life you wanted. If you’ve ever hesitated to start a business, take a risk, or step into something bigger because of fear of failure, it’s time to confront what’s really holding you back. Most people don’t fail because they lack skill. They fail because they don’t want to risk embarrassment. So they stay stuck playing it safe, staying comfortable, and telling themselves “now’s not the right time”. Tune in to discover: 👉Why “I can’t afford it” is often a belief problem, not a money problem 👉What saying “I don’t have time” really means 👉The reality of starting a business with kids, a mortgage, and real pressure 👉The truth about imposter syndrome in entrepreneurship 👉Why no one is a “natural” at business or success 👉Cash flow stress and scaling lessons from building in real time 👉Hiring mistakes and culture lessons 👉The identity shift required to move from thinking to doing Key Moments: 00:03:00 No Alcohol for 2026 00:08:00 AI Tools Transforming Training 00:10:00 The Reason You Can't Is Why You Should 00:12:20 I Can't Afford It 00:22:00 I Don't Have The Time 00:30:00 Life Circumstances Excuse 00:32:00 I'm Not A Natural 00:39:00 Fear of Failure 00:45:40 7 Year Old Entrepreneur Question 00:48:40 Managing Tight Cash Flow Hit play now and find out why the thing holding you back is the thing pushing you forward. - 👉Connect with us https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast - Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL. HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce. Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team. 👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business? Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/

    57 min
  3. FEB 24

    From Zero Clients to $15.5M Revenue in 24 Months | Sam Hope & Jory Humpreys

    Thinking about starting a recruitment agency? Wondering how to scale a recruitment business without burning cash? Curious how a brand-new recruitment startup hit $15.5M revenue in year two? Before you quit your recruitment job - you need to hear this! Most recruiters talk about starting a business. Very few actually do it. In this episode, we break down exactly how two founders scaled a recruitment agency to $15.5M revenue in year two, became one of the fastest-growing companies in Australia, and launched a second business. And how they did it all while navigating risk, burnout, partnerships, offshore teams, and massive mindset shifts. Our guests, Sam Hope and Jory Humpreys, are the founders of H People and Wingman Recruitment. If you’re a recruiter thinking about going out on your own… or an agency owner trying to scale … this episode will show you what it actually takes. What You’ll Learn 👉How to scale a recruitment agency from zero 👉Why abundance mindset beats scarcity thinking 👉When to hire your first recruiter (and how to reduce risk) 👉How to build a profitable temp recruitment desk 👉The real truth about business partnerships 👉How to integrate offshore recruitment teams properly 👉Why most agencies fail with virtual assistants 👉The delegation framework founders must master Whether you run a recruitment agency, plan to start one, or want to scale any service business fast, this episode gives you a practical playbook. Key moments: 00:00:00 Intro 00:01:00 The Secret to $15.5M in Year Two 00:04:00 Starting with Zero Clients 00:08:00 Business Partnerships Done Right 00:12:00 Mistakes That Cost Real Cash 00:15:20 When to Ignore Your Mentor 00:20:00 Founder to Leader Transition 00:23:00 The Terrifying Leap 00:28:00 Why Employment Feels Safe But Isn't 00:33:00 Embracing Change and AI 00:40:00 How Wingman Recruitment Was Born 00:50:20 Remote Professionals Not Virtual Assistants 00:56:00 The Finish Line That Doesn't Exist 01:03:00 Content and Personal Brand Strategy Listen now and steal the growth framework behind one of Australia's fastest-growing companies. - 👉Connect With Sam & Jory’s businesses https://www.hpeople.au/ https://wingmangroup.com.au/ - 👉Connect with us https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast - Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL. HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce. Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team. 👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business? Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/

    1h 13m
  4. FEB 17

    We Started Running Our Personal Life Like a Business… Here’s What Happened

    Should you run your relationship like a business? At first, it sounds cold, unromantic, and too structured. But what if applying CEO-level systems, goal setting, and EOS principles to your personal life is exactly what high-performing entrepreneurs need to balance business and family? In this episode of the Two Blokes, One Business Podcast, we break down why structuring your life like a CEO might be the missing piece to building wealth and strong relationships. We dive into applying Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS) principles to your personal life, why scheduling date nights isn’t unromantic, and how goal-setting can actually improve intimacy, connection, and fulfillment. If you're building a business but struggling to balance ambition with family, this episode is for you. Tune in to hear about: 👉How to set a 10-year vision, 3-year plan, and quarterly goals for your life 👉Why busy entrepreneurs must structure romance and family time 👉The truth about “doing the things” vs “knowing the things” 👉How to stop analysis paralysis and actually execute 👉Why most networking events are overrated (and what to do instead) 👉Optimism vs pessimism mindset… and how it shapes your results 👉How to balance business growth without damaging your relationship 👉The framework for better communication in high-performance partnerships Key moments: 00:01:00 Quick Life Updates 00:07:20 Running Your Personal Life Like a Business 00:09:20 Why Structure Creates Freedom at Home 00:12:40 Using EOS for Your 10 Year Personal Vision 00:15:40 Level 10 Meetings With Your Partner 00:20:00 Quarterly Rocks for Family Goals 00:24:00 The Six Life Pillars to Plan Around 00:28:00 Small Habits That Stack Into Big Change 00:34:20 Getting Started Is 90% of the Work 00:39:40 The Parking Lot Mindset Shift 00:44:20 Overrated vs Underrated: New Segment If you're grinding hard in business but feel like your personal life is running on autopilot, hit play now and get the exact framework to fix it. - 👉Connect with us https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast - Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL. HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce. Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team. 👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business? Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/

    58 min
  5. FEB 10

    Try This Breathwork Method And Change Your Business Forever | Chris Payten

    When you live in fight-or-flight long enough, stress becomes your personality… and that’s exactly what’s happening to most entrepreneurs. Today we’re joined by Chris Payten, who’s unpacking how entrepreneurs can use breathwork, nervous system regulation techniques, and emotional regulation to win… And why so many high performers stay stuck in fight-or-flight without realising it. This conversation connects mental health, performance, leadership, and healing in a way that’s practical, grounded, and immediately usable for business owners. We break down: 👉Why traditional talk therapy often doesn’t work for high performers 👉How chronic stress silently drives anxiety, burnout, and poor decisions 👉Why “working harder” often makes things worse 👉How breathing directly controls your nervous system, emotions, and focus 👉Why emotional regulation is one of the most important skills in business Key moments: 00:01:00 Releasing decades of trauma 00:04:00 How breathwork affects the brain 00:08:00 Chris's darkest moment 00:11:40 The breathing session that changed everything 00:15:40 The problem with fear-driven success 00:22:40 Three nervous system states 00:32:00 Live breathing rate tes 00:38:40 The 5-5-5 breathing protocol for instant calm 00:45:00 Why mouth breathing destroys your health 00:51:00 Men need transition time 00:59:00 Steve Jobs' five critical tasks method 👉Connect With Chris Payten https://infinitytrainingandcoaching.com/ https://www.instagram.com/chrispayten_ - 👉Connect with us https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast - Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL. HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce. Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team. 👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business? Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/

    1h 6m
  6. FEB 3

    How To Know If Entrepreneurship Is Actually For You

    Are you actually cut out to be an entrepreneur… or are you better off staying employed? In this episode, we’re unpacking the REAL traits of successful entrepreneurs, the mindset required to start and grow a business, and business ownership vs a traditional career. We’re also exploring the psychological side of entrepreneurship, including fear, self-doubt, responsibility, discipline, and the reality of living without a safety net. Inspired by lessons seen in high performers like Alex Hormozi, Steven Bartlett, and Tony Robbins, you’ll hear what separates people who think about starting a business from those who actually build one. Tune in to hear about: 👉How to tell if you’re wired for entrepreneurship 👉Signs you should (or shouldn’t) start a business 👉The difference between a job, a career, and a calling 👉Why being “comfortable” can be more dangerous than being unhappy 👉Entrepreneur mindset vs employee mindset 👉The real stress and responsibility of business ownership 👉High-performance habits that transfer into entrepreneurship 👉Why discipline beats motivation in business 👉How belief, action, and results create momentum If you’ve ever wondered “Should I start a business?”, felt stuck in a comfortable job, or questioned whether you have what it takes to succeed in entrepreneurship - this conversation is for you. Key moments: 00:02:40 The no-drinking experiment 00:10:40 Am I cut out to be an entrepreneur? 00:13:40 Why people jump into entrepreneurship 00:17:00 The Region Beta Paradox explained 00:23:40 Essential traits that predict business success 00:31:00 The framework for momentum 00:41:00 Skills you need versus skills you can learn 00:47:00 Decision-making difference 00:52:00 Why life outside work determines success inside it Whether you're considering leaving your job to start a business, already in the early stages of entrepreneurship, or simply curious about what business ownership is really like… You’ll walk away with clarity on whether this path fits your personality, lifestyle, and long-term goals. - 👉Connect with us https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast - Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL. HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce. Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team. 👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business? Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/

    58 min
  7. JAN 27

    Why Insecurity Creates High Achievers (And Why It Eventually Breaks Them) | Lewis Huckstep

    If your success is fuelled by pressure, fear, or proving you’re “enough,” - burnout is inevitable. Mindset coach Lewis Huckstep joins the lads to pull back the curtain on the psychology of insecurity-driven success, hustle culture, trauma, and what it actually takes to build a fulfilling life (without burning yourself out). Tune in to hear about: ✅Why insecurity is one of the most powerful fuels for high achievement ✅Hustle culture vs healing: when the grind works (and when it destroys you) ✅External success vs internal fulfillment ✅How childhood trauma shapes ambition, drive, and self-sabotage ✅Why high achievers sabotage relationships, health, and happiness ✅How to build success that doesn’t consume you ✅Purpose, values, and aligned ambition ✅Why fulfillment doesn’t come from “bigger goals” Listen now to discover your core wound and turn it into unstoppable purpose. Key moments: 00:01:00 The Insecure High Achiever Problem 00:07:00 How Trauma Shows Up In Relationships 00:13:00 Finding Purpose From Your Wounds 00:17:30 Live Core Wound Exercise 00:29:00 Building An Inspired Life 00:38:00 Lewis's Burnout Story 00:44:30 Growing To Nearly 1M Followers 00:51:00 Balancing Business And Fatherhood 00:57:40 Parenting As The Ultimate Mirror 01:06:00 Why Society Keeps Us Stuck Whether you're grinding toward your first million or questioning why success hasn't made you happy yet, this conversation offers a blueprint for sustainable achievement. - 👉Connect With Lewis: https://www.lewishuckstep.com https://www.instagram.com/lewishuckstep  - 👉Connect with us https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast - Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL. HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce. Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team. 👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business? Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/

    1h 14m
  8. JAN 20

    What No One Warns You About When You Start Scaling

    Scaling a business sounds exciting… until you’re the bottleneck, hiring feels risky, and imposter syndrome hits you in the face every single day. In this episode of Two Blokes One Business, we break down exactly what it’s like to grow a recruitment business, hire the right people, and build systems without burning out. From hiring new team members and reducing key person risk, to battling imposter syndrome, building systems, and learning when to let go — this is a behind-the-scenes look at growing a recruitment business without burning out. We break down: ✅Why hiring is the hardest (and most important) part of scaling ✅The real mistakes founders make when growing too quickly ✅How offshore and remote hires can outperform local hires ✅Why documenting SOPs and onboarding properly changes everything ✅How imposter syndrome actually means you’re growing ✅The mindset shift from “doing everything” to building leverage ✅Energy management, deep work, and why time off matters ✅What “Full Hammer” really means for business and life Listen to this episode if you want to learn how to push through your current business ceiling - without burning out in the process. Key moments: 00:05:40  The Full Hammer Philosophy 00:10:00  Three New Hires Starting 00:22:40  AI Implementation Progress 00:25:00  Key Person Risk Problem 00:29:20  SOP Documentation Lessons 00:31:00  Imposter Syndrome Reframe 00:39:20  End Goal for Harwell Group 00:46:40  Looking Up vs Looking Down 00:50:40  85-Year-Old Reflection Test If you’re thinking about: ✔️ Scaling your business ✔️ Hiring your first (or next) employee ✔️ Moving from employee to entrepreneur ✔️ Building systems and processes ✔️ Creating long-term freedom through business …this episode is for you. - 👉Connect with us https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast - Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL. HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce. Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team. 👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business? Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/

    52 min

About

Two Blokes One Business is a weekly business podcast for entrepreneurs, founders, recruiters, and aspiring business owners who want real lessons on starting, growing, and scaling a business.Hosted by Harvey Rivers and Adam Powell, two ex-professional footballers who built HARWELL., a specialist recruitment agency that generated $1.25M in year one, $6M in year two, and ranked #5 on the Australian Financial Review's Top 100 Fast Starters. Every episode digs into what it actually takes to build, lead, and grow a company - including the decisions that paid off, the ones that didn't, and everything in between.In solo episodes, Harvey and Adam break down the lessons, mistakes, and strategies they wish someone had told them three years ago when they were starting out. In guest episodes, they sit down for candid conversations with Australia's top entrepreneurs, leaders, and world-class performance experts - to unpack what actually drives success in business and life.If you want practical insights on building a business, scaling a company, and making smarter moves as an entrepreneur, this is the podcast for you.New episodes published every week - subscribe now to level up your business journeyConnect with the Harwell. team: https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness https://www.harwell.au/

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