6 episodes

Howard Dierking and Glenn Block both have more than 20 years on the engineering and product side of the house. The name for the podcast derives from a running joke between them about quitting the tech industry and opening an ice cream business. In each episode, they will look at the intersection of product management and software development and talk through lots of different ways that the two disciplines can work together to build great products - or drive everyone in the organization crazy while wasting time and money.

Until the Ice Cream Truck Howard Dierking & Glenn Block

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Howard Dierking and Glenn Block both have more than 20 years on the engineering and product side of the house. The name for the podcast derives from a running joke between them about quitting the tech industry and opening an ice cream business. In each episode, they will look at the intersection of product management and software development and talk through lots of different ways that the two disciplines can work together to build great products - or drive everyone in the organization crazy while wasting time and money.

    Career Levels

    Career Levels

    I, II, Senior, Staff, Principal, Distinguished, Fellow.....ahhhh!! What does it all mean? In this episode, Glenn and Howard take a look at the various levels and titles found in many technology companies and then break it all down into some guiding principles for thinking about leveling at your own organization. We delve into topics like what the difference is between levels and bands, how levels match up when you switch roles or move from a different geo, how levels equate to pay, fixed vs variable comp, and we touch on the elephant in the room, the pay gap. Don't miss this episode!

    Resources:

    Levels.fyi - Compare different levels across large tech orgs
    https://faangpath.com/blog/faang-companies-salary-bands/ - On bands for Faang companies
    https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-23-106041 - On the gender pay gap

    • 41 min
    On Technical Debt

    On Technical Debt

    While it's existed in nearly every organization for as long as anyone can remember, technical debt has taken center stage recently in a number of high profile outages, including those at  Southwest Airlines and the US Federal Avaiation Administration. In this episode, Glenn and Howard talk cover the topic of technical debt from several angles, including:
    What is technical debt? How does it accumulate in an organization? What are some strategies for reducing it? Resources
    https://youtu.be/Ed94CfxgsCA https://youtu.be/SxdOUGdseq4 

    • 39 min
    Being Product-Led

    Being Product-Led

    In this episode, Glenn and Howard go a level deeper into the world of product management and look at some of the specific activities and deliverables of the discipline. They then take a look at what it means to be "product-led" as an organization and what steps need to be taken at a structural and operational level to ensure that an organization can achieve the desired outcomes promised by being product-led.

    Resources
    https://productled.com/blog/product-led-organization-todd-olson https://www.spencerstuart.com/research-and-insight/product-organization-structure  https://www.prodpad.com/blog/invented-now-next-later-roadmap/

    • 43 min
    On Product Management

    On Product Management

    What is Product Management? Where did it come from. Tune in to this episode where Howard and Glenn answer these questions and more!

    Resources
    History of Product Management McElroy's "Brand Men" memo The Secret Product Manager's Handbook

    • 33 min
    Leading Through Layoffs

    Leading Through Layoffs

    At present, the tech industry is going through a painful cycle of contraction. It seems like everywhere you look, another company has just implemented a massive round of layoffs, and no company is immune. In this episode, Glenn and Howard talk about what it looks like to lead through layoffs - from the reasons behind them, to how decisions are made in forming "the list", and how those decisions are communicated. In each of these topics, the guys will talk about some examples of where the process was done well and where it was done terribly (looking at you, Twitter). They'll also share some personal "behind the curtain" insights on some of the decision making that goes into the process.

    • 52 min
    Introductions

    Introductions

    Welcome to the inagural episode of "Until the Ice Cream Truck"! In this first episode, Glenn and Howard introduce themselves as well as talk about the purpose and goals of the podcast.

    • 27 min

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