What Would Jesus Tech Andrew Noble & Joel Jacob
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- Religion & Spirituality
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Two friends embark on a journey to reconcile their love of tech with their love of Jesus.
Join Joel Jacob (Product at Splunk) and Andrew Noble (Pastoral Ministry at Grandview Church) as they interview leading theologians and technology experts to grow their ability to imitate Jesus in a digital age. Whether you're working in tech, addicted to tech, or just trying to use tech as Jesus would, we hope you'll learn along with us.
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Listen, Listen, Speak with Jay Y. Kim
What does it look like to listen, to truly listen, in a noisy world?
Today we're joined by Jay Y. Kim, author of Listen, Listen Speak: Hearing God and Being Heard in a Noisy World.
Some Christians emphasize listening as the ultimate form of love, which can lead to passivity. Others emphasize the courageous proclamation of truth, which can lead to arrogance. Jay encourages us to listen and speak and tells us how.
0:00 - Intro
2:01 - Jay's Background
4:47 - Digital Informs, Analog Transforms
8:34 - Are Churches Behind in Using Tech?
16:14 - Fixating on the future vs Prayer
20:45 - Headphones in Grocery Stores
29:05 - Cacophanies, Distress, and Reason
36:53 - Speaking Up On Controversies
48:43 - Awkward Silence on Elevators and WWJD?
Please send your ideas and feedback to the cohosts, Andrew Noble and Joel Jacob, at whatwouldjesustech@gmail.com. Recorded in Ontario, Canada. Original Music by Abigail Neale. Video and sound editing by Peter Behnke. To learn more about What Would Jesus Tech and to support the show, visit whatwouldjesustech.com -
Everything AI Is Changing All At Once
A core theme in the movie Everything Everywhere All At Once is how we experience a disconnected, anxious, and nihilistic technological world. The movie was about social media, the Internet, and how the digital age has disembodied us, making us feel like we have access to a multiverse via the World Wide Web.
But now, we have AI. The stability that remains is shifting. In this episode, we recap some of the changes we're seeing in the AI space. We also discuss some key aspects of AI "wrappers" and RAGs (Retrieval-augmented generation), which are being used to increase the accuracy of generative AI models with facts fetched from external sources.
Basically, AI is rapidly changing. This episode tells you what those changes are.
To learn more about What Would Jesus Tech or to support the show, visit whatwouldjesustech.com
Sources/references in this video:
Devin - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHtjT7GO1c
Groq - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UzW_AGX68g
Sora AI - https://openai.com/sora
OpenAI's CTO with a non-answer on where the training data comes from - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAUpxN-EIgU
- Tik Tok Ban https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68556540
- Elon Musk suing Open AI https://www.reuters.com/legal/elon-musk-sues-openai-ceo-sam-altman-breach-contract-2024-03-01/
- Klarna AI Assistant replacing customer reps https://www.klarna.com/international/press/klarna-ai-assistant-handles-two-thirds-of-customer-service-chats-in-its-first-month/
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How Technoculture Makes God Feel Absent, with Joseph Minich
What is philosophy? How does it help us in our pursuit to understand how to live in our world? And how does living in our technological world, or "technoculture," affect our beliefs in God? Today we're joined by Dr. Joseph Minich, the author of Bulwarks of Unbelief: Atheism and Divine Absence in a Secular Age.
There are two main parts to this episode. In the first half, we discuss ancient philosophy and it's significance to techies. In the second half, we dive into the thesis of Minich's book, and how our sense of God's existence has changed in our modern secular age.
Minich's Books:
Enduring Divine AbsenceBulwarks of Unbelief: Atheism and Divine Absence in a Secular Age He is also the co-author of various other works including Protestant Social Teaching: An Introduction, Philosophy and the Christian: The Quest for Wisdom in the Light of Christ, and People of the Promise: A Mere Protestant Ecclesiology.
Other resources referenced:
Jesus the Great Philosopher: Rediscovering the Wisdom Needed for the Good Life by Jonathan Pennington
Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
2:30 - What is Philosophy and Why is it Important for Christians?
7:25 - Joseph Minich's Journey into Philosophy
13:45 - Retrieving Older Philosophical Traditions
19:18 - Retrieving Older Philosophical Traditions
26:54 - The Impact of the Technological Age on Belief in God
35:16 - The Loss of Agency in Modern & Future Labor
45:42 - Reframing Work, Reclaiming Agency, and Finding Purpose
Please send your ideas and feedback to the cohosts, Andrew Noble and Joel Jacob, at whatwouldjesustech@gmail.com. Recorded in Ontario, Canada. Original Music by Abigail Neale. Video and sound editing by Peter Behnke. To learn more about What Would Jesus Tech and to support the show visit whatwouldjesustech.com -
Embodied AI Beyond ChatGPT & Cleaning Robots
As CES24 proved, robots are on the rise. But is this like an IoT (Internet of Things) fad, or is AI on legs here to stay? Andrew learns from Joel, as he unpacks some of the new technologies making it easier to *feel* like you're in the same room as someone else. And Joel asks Andrew to assess this theologically as well as practically, for "virtual church" and for each imitator of Jesus.
0:00 - Intro & Background
1:45 - IoT vs Embodied AI - just another trend?
5:40 - CES24, Apple Vision Pro, MetaVision, AR & VR
9:30 - Holotiles, Simulating Smell, and New Tech
11:20 - Don't Underestimate Physicality
17:35 - If The Tech Gets Better Though...
25:33 - What Makes Virtue Church Unacceptable?
31:15 - Would Jesus Use Embodied AI?
Things & Books Referenced
Figure 01, a humanoid robot being built by a startup called FigureVideo on disembodied AGI- Sanctuary AI company (shows robot control) Video of Disney’s HoloTiles Full Original - Lex/Zuck Interview Simulating Smell Analog Church - Jay Y. KimThe Life We're Looking For - Andy CrouchWhat God Has To Say About Our Bodies - Sam AlberryCultural Mandate, Grey Sutanto - ThemeliosGrace Restores Nature - Grace In Common PodcastOne Assembly - Jonathan LeemanWhat Is A Church? The 1689 Baptist Confession of Faith
Please send your ideas and feedback to the cohosts, Andrew Noble and Joel Jacob, at whatwouldjesustech@gmail.com. Recorded in Ontario, Canada. Original Music by Abigail Neale. Video and sound editing by Peter Behnke.
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7 Tech Predictions For 2024
Will Robotics have its ChatGPT moment? Will Elon Musk become a Christian? Will the 2024 elections be overcome by artificial images? From multi-model AI to deepening embodied desires, Joel Jacob (Product at Splunck) and Andrew Noble (Pastoral Ministry at Grandview Church) predict what they think might happen in 2024.
0:00 - Intro
1:45 - Cisco bought Joel's company. Is he out of a job?
4:02 - 2023 trend: increasing mental health concerns for teens
5:45 - 2023 trend: rise of AI
6:45 - Prediction 1: Multi-modal AI & Robotics
9:30 - Prediction 2: The Increasing Artificiality of the Internet (and a pull to embodied relationships)
12:25 - Prediction 3: Small Uptick in "Metaverse" Adoption (AR & VR traction via Apple & Meta)
18:09 - Prediction 4: A Big Tech Leader Will Become A Christian (and conversely, the rise of techno-religion)
27:36 - Prediction 5: The Inflection Point For Robotics
31:19 - Prediction 6: A New Analogue Dating App Is Coming (wildly specific prediction from Andrew)
35:06 - Prediction 7: The Crypto Winter Ends (it will become harder to mine Bitcoin again in April 2024)
Links:
- Rex Woodbury's 2024 predictions
- What Would Jesus Tech website
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A Christian Perspective on OpenAI, ChatGPT, and Societal Impacts, with Dave Betts and Austin Gravely
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What happened at OpenAI? And why does it matter? How should Christians prepare for a world increasingly mediated through Artificial Intelligence?
In this episode, we brought on the author of the Church and AI Substack, Dave Betts, as well as The Gospel Coalition's Austin Gravely.
Links:
- Listener feedback survey: https://forms.gle/pmi9jWf65cjGFn2TA
- https://www.churchandai.com/
- https://digitalbabylon.substack.com/
Please send us your ideas and feedback to the cohosts, Andrew Noble and Joel Jacob, at whatwouldjesustech@gmail.com. Recorded in Ontario, Canada. Original Music by Abigail Neale. To learn more about What Would Jesus Tech and to support the show visit whatwouldjesustech.com