Whiteness at Work

Dr. Claire Stewart-Hall

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A show about the concept of whiteness and how it works. Listen in to notice, reimagine and question the role of whiteness. You will hear collective voices to share in the anti-racism quest to expose and dismantle the dominance of whiteness in our families, institutions and everyday lives.

6d ago

Beyond Whiteness: Thriving, Leadership and Building New Futures with Angie Browne

In this episode of the Whiteness at Work podcast, I speak with executive leader, strategist, coach and author Angie Browne about whiteness, leadership, equity, and what becomes possible when we stop allowing whiteness to define the limits of our imagination. Drawing on decades of experience working internationally across education, organisational strategy and leadership, Angie explores whiteness as a manufactured system of power that disconnects people from their humanity while shaping institutions, policies and organisational cultures. Rather than centring whiteness as the destination of our work, Angie invites us to consider what happens when we turn our attention towards flourishing, sovereignty, community, ecology and new ways of leading. Together, we discuss: whiteness as a manufactured system of privilege leadership beyond diversity, equity and inclusion creating organisations where people genuinely flourish international perspectives on race and whiteness British international schools and colonial legacies equity, sovereignty and organisational culture abolitionist thinking and systems change why anti-racist work must move beyond reaction ecologies of thriving and ethical leadership why disinterest may be one of the greatest challenges to whiteness Throughout our conversation, we explore how leadership can move beyond simply responding to injustice towards intentionally creating cultures where people experience belonging, humanity and possibility. This episode will resonate with school leaders, executive leaders, coaches, researchers, policymakers, organisational development practitioners, and anyone interested in leadership, equity, systems change and racial justice. References Browne, A. (2026) Field Notes on Equity. Substack. Browne, A. (2020) Lighting the Way: The Case for Ethical Leadership in Schools. Bloomsbury. Browne, A. (2026) Nothing Without Us podcast. Website: https://www.beingluminary.co.uk/
May 13

Disrupting Whiteness in Coaching and Leadership with Fenella Trevillion

In this episode of the Whiteness at Work podcast, I speak with coach, supervisor, researcher and writer Fenella Trevillion about whiteness, coaching, race, reflexivity, and the emotional and embodied realities of anti-racist practice. Fenella reflects on her experiences growing up in apartheid South Africa, her work within health and mental health services, and how witnessing racism across institutions shaped her understanding of whiteness and power. Drawing from her paper Disrupting My Whiteness: Towards Inhabiting Self-Enquiry into Race and Whiteness, we explore what it means for white practitioners to engage critically with their own racism, discomfort, fragility, and positionality within coaching and leadership spaces. Together, we discuss: whiteness as a system of power and normalisation embodiment, discomfort, and visceral reactions to racism white fragility and white saviourism anti-racist coaching and supervision reflexivity, autoethnography, and self-enquiry race and power in coaching relationships collective spaces, solidarity, and learning communities institutional racism and the legacy of the New Cross Fire whiteness, ritual, politeness, and silence queerness, othering, and identity We also discuss the tensions of disrupting whiteness in majority white spaces, the emotional labour involved in anti-racist work, and the importance of learning to stay present rather than retreating into defensiveness or performance. This conversation will resonate with coaches, educators, therapists, leadership practitioners, researchers, supervisors, anti-racist practitioners, and anyone interested in race, power, identity, and organisational culture. References: Trevillion, F. (2025). Disrupting my whiteness: Towards inhabiting self-enquiry into race and whiteness. Trevillion, F. (2021). “Take a look in the mirror.” Coaching at Work. Trevillion, F. “White coaches: A clarion call for white coaches to awake to our indifference about Black Lives Matter.” Coaching at Work.
May 8

The Architecture of Whiteness: Universities, Power and Institutional Racism

In this episode of the Whiteness at Work podcast, I speak with researcher and Leverhulme Early Career Fellow Dr Rhianna Garrett about whiteness, higher education, mixed-race identity, institutional racism, and the systems that continue to shape who belongs within universities and leadership spaces. Drawing from her widely discussed thesis, The Architecture of Whiteness, Rhianna explores how universities are not neutral spaces, but institutions historically constructed through racialised systems, policies, values, and professional norms that continue to protect white comfort and reproduce inequity. Together, we discuss: what “the architecture of whiteness” meanswhiteness as a system rather than an identityracism in higher education and leadership culturemixed-race identity and resistancesafeguarding and racial harm in institutionsperformative EDI and institutional opticsactivism, solidarity, and anti-racist scholarshipthe online backlash Rhianna received after publicly sharing her thesisWe also explore how whiteness operates through policy interpretation, institutional culture, professionalism, invisibility, and organisational behaviour, alongside the emotional and political realities of researching race in public. This conversation will resonate with educators, researchers, leadership teams, school leaders, unions, students, policymakers, anti-racist practitioners, and anyone interested in race, power, education, and organisational culture. You can find Dr Rhianna Garrett’s work through Northumbria University, ResearchGate, Google Scholar, and her social platform Rhimixedviews. References :Garrett, R. (2025). “I’m not white”: counter-stories from “mixed race” women navigating PhDs. Equality, Diversity and Inclusion: An International Journal, 44(1), 91-105. Garrett, R. (2025). The de/construction of identity: The complexities of loss and separation for mixed-race Britain. Genealogy, 9(2), 44. Garrett, R. (2025). Racism shapes careers: career trajectories and imagined futures of racialised minority PhDs in UK higher education. Globalisation, Societies and Education, 23(3), 683-697. Garrett, R. (2025). The architecture of whiteness. Area, 57(4), e70039.
2025-05-10

with Dr. Charmaine Brown and Professor Denise Miller

Description In this episode of the Whiteness at Work podcast, Dr. Claire Stewart-Hall engages with Professor Denise Miller and Dr. Charmaine Brown to explore the concept of whiteness, its implications in educational settings, and experiences with racism. They discuss the mechanisms to dismantle whiteness, the role of research in advocating for change, and the psychosocial costs of racism faced by staff in educational institutions. The conversation emphasises the importance of awareness, community empowerment, and the need for meaningful research that impacts society beyond academia. Dr. Claire Stewart-Hall and guests delve into the complexities of studying racism, allyship, and the psychosocial costs associated with these experiences. They discuss the importance of understanding the perspectives of both Black individuals and white allies in academia, the challenges of institutional racism, and the need for a shift in power dynamics to foster genuine change. The conversation highlights the ongoing struggle against institutional racism and the necessity of addressing whiteness in discussions about equity and inclusion. Keywords whiteness, racism, privilege, education, institutional racism, equity, diversity, research, community empowerment, activism, racism, allyship, psychosocial costs, institutional racism, whiteness, academia, diversity, equity, inclusion, research Chapters 00:00 Understanding Whiteness and Its Impact 06:58 Personal Journeys with Whiteness 16:04 Mechanisms to Dismantle Whiteness 21:11 Research as a Tool for Change 32:55 Exploring the Psychosocial Costs of Racism 36:41 The Costs of Allyship and Racism 39:32 Exploring Psychosocial Costs of Racism 43:52 The Role of White Perspectives in Racism 48:59 Shifting the Narrative on Institutional Racism 51:51 Reflections on Change and Progress 01:00:34 Methodological Insights on Whiteness 01:08:08 Understanding Whiteness and Power Dynamics We discuss the journal papers: Miller, D., Brown, C. and Essex, R. (2023) ‘The psychosocial costs of racism to White staff members of an ethnically diverse, post-92 university’. London Review of Education, 21 (1), 39. DOI: https://doi.org/10.14324/LRE.21.1.39. Miller, D., Essex, R. and Brown, C. (2025) ‘“I’m managed by a White man who’s managed by a White man who’s managed by a White woman who’s managed by a White man”: the problem of institutional racism in a UK-based university’. London Review of Education, 23 (1), 8. DOI: https://doi.org/10.14324/LRE.23.1.08. We also reference the journal papers: Exum, M.L. (2022). ‘White students’ perceptions of the costs and consequences of being black’. Race and Social Problems, : 1–17, Advance online publication. DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s12552-022-09364-5 Miller, P. (2016). ‘White sanction’, institutional, group and individual interaction in the promotion and progression of black and minority ethnic academics and teachers in England. Power and Education 8 (3) : 205–21, DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1177/1757743816672880 Spanierman, L.B; Todd, N.R; Anderson, C.J. (2009). ‘Psychosocial costs of racism to Whites: Understanding patterns among university students’. Journal of Counseling Psychology 56 (2) : 239–52, DOI: http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/a0015432 [PubMed] Find out more at: https://equitablecoaching.com/
2025-04-04

Whiteness at Work with Dr. Penny Rabiger

In this episode, we welcome Dr. Penny Rabiger, researcher, facilitator, connector and anti-racist community resource who is the lead Coach on the Anti-Racist Schools Award at The Centre for Race, Education and Decoloniality Penny is an educationalist who studies structural racism in school contexts. We discuss jewishness, being racialised into whiteness as white people, dreams, school contexts and the formations of whiteness in society. References Alexander, C. (2009) Beyond Black, in Back, L. & Solomos, J. (Eds.). (2009). Theoriesof Race and Racism: A Reader (2nd ed.), pp 209 - 225. Abingdon: Routledge.https://doi.org/10.4324/9781003060802 Andrews, K. (2023) The Psychosis of Whiteness: Surviving the Insanity of a Racist World. London: Allen Lane. https://www.class13.org/ Coard, B. (1971). "Making Black Children Subnormal in Britain." Equity and Excellence in Education, 9(5), 49-52 Cushing, I., & Snell, J. (2023). The (white) ears of Ofsted: A raciolinguistic perspective on the listening practices of the schools inspectorate. Language in society, 52(3), 363-386. Grant, V. (2025) https://www.integritycoaching.co.uk/blog/building-a-compassionate-school-system/isolation-stress-tears-truth-school-leader/ Ignatiev, N., & Garvey, J. (eds.) (1996) Race Traitor. New York: Routledge. Okun, T. White Supremacy Culture. Found Online Lentin, A. (2025) The New Racial Regime: Recalibrations of White Supremacy is out in May 2025 with Pluto Press. Salisbury, J. (2022). "How, still, is the Black Caribbean child made educationally subnormal in the English school system?" Consider this talk on 22 April 2025: https://events.manchester.ac.uk/event/event:g1z0-m8pxip9l-lbq2pr Penny's website Equitable Coaching's Monthly White accountability space booking link
2025-03-28

Whiteness at Work with Bernice Hewson

In this episode Dr. Claire Stewart-Hall talks with Bernice Hewson, who is a coach, trainer and racial equity scholar. Bernice is the founder of Raising Racial Consciousness and writes and delivers programmes for practitioners and coaches, leaders and allies to deepen practice and challenge whiteness. We talk about whiteness in the institution, in coaching and in therapeutic spaces and the importance of inner race work for people practising in these fields. References Roche, C & Passmore, J. (2021) Racial Justice, Equityand Belonging in Coaching Henley Business School: UK Find Bernice's Linked In profile here
2025-02-13

Whiteness at Work with Stephen Francis

If you would like to hear more about the work of social justice researcher, Stephen Francis, here are some links to his work and profile: Article LinkedIn References Stephen Francis referred to and some other reading that might help: Farrell, F. (2021). White Man face, order words and deviance detectors: a Deleuzoguattarian analysis of fundamental British values. Prism: Casting New Light on Learning, Theory and Practice., 1-24. Advance online publication. https://doi.org/10.24377/prism.ljmu.0302202 Hall, S. (2017).Familiar stranger: A life between two islands. Duke University Press. hooks, b. (1997) Representing Whiteness in the Black Imagination. DisplacingWhiteness. Duke University Press. DOI: 10.1215/978082270-006 Hylton, K., & Hylton-Fraser, K. (2022). An evaluation of the “every child can learn, every child must learn” mantra’s alignment with educational policies inJamaica.Equity in Education & Society,27526461211066497 Jackson, M., Von Dohlen, H., & Black-Chen, M. (2024). Preparing school leaders for social justice: An analysis of educational leadership preparation programs in Jamaica.Equity in Education & Society. https://doi.org/10.1177/27526461241235937 Miller, K. (2013). A Smaller Sound, A Lesser Fury: A Eulogy for Dub Poetry. InWriting Down the Vision: Essays & Prophecies (pp. 79–90). Peepal Tree. Miller, K. (2021). Mr. Brown, Mrs White & Ms Black. InThings I Have Withheld,(pp. 18–42). Canongate Books Ltd. Sriprakash, A, Rudolph, S. and Gerrard, J. , (2022).Learning Whiteness: Education and the Settler Colonial State, London: Pluto Press, 2022.
2025-02-03

Why Talk About Whiteness? The Why

In this episode Dr. Claire Stewart-Hall raises questions about why talking about whiteness is critical to its abolition and how it has affected her life and beliefs. She covers the why about whiteness - why study it? and what is the purpose? Equitable Coaching can be contacted for services here You can book into our monthly a white accountability space here. References Bonilla-Silva, E., Goar, C., & Embrick, D. G. (2006). When Whites Flock Together: The Social Psychology of White Habitus. Critical Sociology, 32(2-3), 229-253. Grant, V. (2025) Integrity Coaching, Race, Identity and School Leadership Programme, https://www.integritycoaching.co.uk/race-work/identity-race-programme/ Helms, J. E. (2014). Toward a model of White racial identity development. In College student development and academic life (pp. 207-224). Routledge. Ignatiev, N. (2012). How the Irish became white. Routledge. Michael, A. (2015). Raising race questions: Whiteness and inquiry in education. Teachers College Press.

A show about the concept of whiteness and how it works. Listen in to notice, reimagine and question the role of whiteness. You will hear collective voices to share in the anti-racism quest to expose and dismantle the dominance of whiteness in our families, institutions and everyday lives.

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Dr. Claire Stewart-Hall
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2024 - 2026
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13
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