Econ Dev Show Podcast - Economic Development

Dane Carlson
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Dane Carlson explores the strategies, ideas, and insights that are driving economic development forward into the future. You'll hear new insights from passionate ED's about their successes and struggles, and you'll learn from attraction and retention experts about how to apply actionable strategies inside your EDO. We'll help take your organization, your community, and your career to the next level.

  1. Economic Development Isn’t What It Used to Be with Teresa Nortillo

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    Economic Development Isn’t What It Used to Be with Teresa Nortillo

    In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Teresa Nortillo, President of Eco Devo 360, about how economic development has evolved from a deal-focused discipline into a complex, ecosystem-driven practice. They explore how energy constraints, workforce skill gaps, and the need for rapid RFI responses are reshaping site selection, along with the growing importance of childcare, housing, and regional collaboration. Teresa also introduces the concept of ecosystem-based cost modeling, explains why many communities struggle to implement traditional consulting plans, and shares her mission to make high-quality economic development support accessible to under-resourced communities. Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! 10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers Build a system to respond to RFIs within 48 hours or less Inventory your community's workforce by skills, not just occupations Develop relationships with utilities early, they are now deal drivers Map your full economic ecosystem including housing, childcare, and infrastructure Create or adopt a cost model to understand true location competitiveness Collaborate regionally instead of competing in isolation Identify and fill critical data gaps before prospects ask for them Prioritize implementation capacity, not just strategic planning documents Explore alternative revenue strategies beyond property and sales tax Invest in training and mentorship for newer economic development staff Special Guest: Teresa Nortillo.

    28 min
  2. How Oklahoma City Turned Voter Investment Into Real Growth with Christy Gillenwater

    13 AVR.

    How Oklahoma City Turned Voter Investment Into Real Growth with Christy Gillenwater

    In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Christy Gillenwater, President and CEO of the Greater Oklahoma City Chamber, about how Oklahoma City has built sustained economic momentum through its unique MAPS program, a voter-approved, pay-as-you-go funding model for transformational community investments. Christy explains how decades of strategic spending on quality of place, infrastructure, and people have reshaped the city’s trajectory, enabled major wins like hosting Olympic events, and strengthened key industries such as aerospace, energy, and life sciences. The conversation also explores the power of business leadership engagement, the growing role of data and AI in economic development, and practical advice for communities looking to unlock their own growth. Like this show? Please leave us a review here. 10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers Bundle major projects into a single, clear vision and take it to voters as one package. Avoid debt when possible and tie project execution directly to collected revenue. Invest consistently in quality of place, not just incentives or recruitment. Engage top CEOs as active partners, not just passive supporters. Build long-term strategies that evolve with community needs over decades. Use data continuously to reassess competitive positioning and refine strategy. Align economic development, tourism, and community development under one structure when possible. Focus on expanding existing industries and assets, not just chasing new ones. Leverage anchor institutions to guide sector strategy and investment. Treat community engagement as part of both planning and execution, not just a checkbox. Special Guest: Christy Gillenwater.

    31 min
  3. The Bermuda Triangle of Economic Development with David Parker

    6 AVR.

    The Bermuda Triangle of Economic Development with David Parker

    In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with David Parker of the Bermuda Business Development Agency about how a small island became a global powerhouse in reinsurance and is now strategically diversifying its economy. David explains Bermuda’s unique “triangle” of government, regulator, and private sector alignment, the role of regulatory innovation like sandboxes, and how the agency targets the right companies using data and intelligence. The conversation explores investment attraction, high-net-worth migration programs, and why Bermuda focuses less on competing broadly and more on being the obvious choice for specific industries and business models. Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! 10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers Focus on becoming the best location for a specific niche instead of competing broadly. Align government, regulators, and private sector around a shared vision to create a unified value proposition. Use data and intelligence to target companies that are a strong fit rather than marketing to everyone. Build strong aftercare programs so existing companies become your best ambassadors. Develop regulatory flexibility (like sandboxes) to attract innovative industries. Think of your community as a launchpad into larger markets, not just a standalone market. Prioritize certainty and stability, especially when targeting global investors and firms. Engage high-net-worth individuals as network multipliers, not just direct investors. Invest in research capacity internally to guide strategy and outreach. Continuously advocate for policy and regulatory improvements to stay competitive. Special Guest: David Parker.

    27 min
  4. How a Town of 30,000 Competes (and Wins) in Economic Development with Tim Hanigan

    23 MARS

    How a Town of 30,000 Competes (and Wins) in Economic Development with Tim Hanigan

    In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Tim Hanigan, CEO of the Aberdeen Development Corporation in Aberdeen, South Dakota, about how a rural community of 30,000 punches above its weight in economic development. Tim explains how Aberdeen leverages entrepreneurship, regional workforce draw, and value-added agriculture to build one of the most diverse micropolitan economies in the U.S. The conversation dives into practical tools like revolving loan funds, shovel-ready site development, and tight-knit community coordination, along with lessons learned from winning and losing projects. Tim also shares how rural economic developers must wear many hats, from childcare advocacy to housing and workforce development, and why knowing your limits and leaning into your strengths is key to long-term success. 10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers Build your own toolbox early - Start small with tools like a revolving loan fund. Even modest contributions compound into real leverage over time. Have product ready before the prospect shows up - Shovel-ready sites win deals. If you're waiting until an RFI arrives, you're already behind. Sell your labor shed, not just your city limits - Expand your workforce story to include the full commuting region, not just population within city boundaries. Be honest about fit upfront - Disqualify bad-fit projects early. It saves time, builds credibility, and focuses your effort on winnable deals. Use speed as a competitive advantage - Quick answers, quick coordination, and quick decisions often beat larger incentive packages. Coordinate like one team, not multiple agencies - Eliminate friction between city, county, utilities, and partners so companies feel like there's "no wrong door." Invest in local companies, not just recruitment - Expansions from existing businesses can absorb sites faster and more reliably than outside recruitment. Treat workforce, housing, and childcare as core infrastructure - These are not side issues. They directly determine whether companies can hire and grow. Lean into what you actually do well - Don't try to win every project. Focus on industries and company sizes that match your real strengths. Own the outcome, even when you lose - Some deals fall apart for reasons outside your control. Learn what you can, adjust where possible, and keep moving. Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! Special Guest: Tim Hanigan.

    24 min
  5. How Incentives Really Influence Site Selection with Taylor Stepp

    16 MARS

    How Incentives Really Influence Site Selection with Taylor Stepp

    In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Taylor Stepp, Founder and President of Strategic Development Partners, about the real role incentives play in economic development deals. Drawing on experience working with corporations and communities across the country, Taylor explains how incentives influence project internal rate of return, why applicability and customization matter more than flashy packages, and how responsiveness and speed from local governments can win projects even when incentive dollars are smaller. The conversation also explores how communities can structure clearer processes, communicate timelines, and position themselves to compete more effectively for major investment. Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! Special Guest: Taylor Stepp.

    24 min
  6. How Video is Changing Economic Development Marketing with Lyndsay Wisneski

    9 MARS

    How Video is Changing Economic Development Marketing with Lyndsay Wisneski

    In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Lyndsay Wisneski, Chief Marketing Officer of the Greater Yuma Economic Development Corporation, about how storytelling and modern marketing strategies can transform economic development. Lyndsay shares how Yuma built a powerful regional brand through industry-focused mini-documentaries, digital advertising campaigns, and a coordinated content strategy that turns a single video project into years of marketing assets. She explains how even small communities can market themselves effectively by highlighting local companies, repurposing content across platforms, and tracking real marketing ROI. The conversation explores why economic development should focus less on static statistics and more on authentic stories that help companies, site selectors, and residents connect emotionally with a place. Like this show? Please leave us a review here. 10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers Let companies tell your story. Interviews with CEOs and business leaders are more persuasive than marketing copy. Create industry-focused content that explains why companies in each sector succeed in your region. Turn one project into many assets: long videos, short clips, photos, reports, and social media content. Use short video ads to drive viewers to longer storytelling pieces on your website or YouTube. Track website visitors and identify companies researching your region. Send periodic industry-specific newsletters highlighting local expansions, infrastructure, and investment. Use LinkedIn and targeted digital ads to stay visible to site selectors and executives. Repurpose marketing content across guides, one-pagers, websites, and presentations. Hire local creative talent who can update or expand your content over time. Apply for marketing awards to boost credibility and morale inside your organization and community. Special Guest: Lyndsay Wisneski.

    31 min
  7. Turning a Military Base into a Manufacturing Engine with Eric Voyles

    23 FÉVR.

    Turning a Military Base into a Manufacturing Engine with Eric Voyles

    In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson talks with Eric Voyles, Executive Vice President and Chief Economic Development Officer for TexAmericas Center, about how a former 8,900-acre military installation became one of the most innovative redevelopment authorities in the country. Eric explains how eliminating public review delays, investing millions in environmental cleanup, controlling rail and logistics assets, and focusing relentlessly on speed to occupancy have allowed TexAmericas Center to compete for heavy and light manufacturing projects. From creative risk-taking with early-stage companies to clearing 250-acre rail-served sites after losing a deal, this conversation is a masterclass in how data, preparation, and governance alignment drive real economic development results. Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! 10 Actionable Takeaways for Economic Developers Make time your primary incentive. If possible, remove unnecessary entitlement layers and compress approval timelines. Speed reduces perceived risk. Self-certify before paying for certification. Develop internal "qualified site" standards so prospects can complete due diligence faster. Track inventory in categories. Move-in ready, construction ready, shovel ready, rail served, etc. Clarity accelerates decisions. Invest after losing. If you lose a project for a specific reason, eliminate that weakness permanently, even if it costs real money. Treat small buildings as assets. Flexible, modular inventory can win projects creatively, even when you lack a single large structure. Control key assets when possible. Owning rail, logistics, or utilities strengthens your value proposition and revenue model. Be willing to take calculated risk on local companies. Early bets on scalable firms can create long-term anchor employers. Align your board around business realities. Populate governance with people who understand customers, not just politics. Operate like a private developer. Use CRM systems, outsourcing where efficient, and disciplined deal flow management. Let data guide strategy. Understand supply and demand curves in your region before pushing incentives or marketing narratives. Special Guest: Eric Voyles.

    34 min
  8. Building a Cross-Border Economic Engine with Heath Vescovi-Chiordi

    16 FÉVR.

    Building a Cross-Border Economic Engine with Heath Vescovi-Chiordi

    In this episode of the Econ Dev Show, Dane Carlson sits down with Heath Vescovi-Chiordi, Director of Economic Development for Pima County, Arizona, to explore how one of the largest counties in the country balances rural biodiversity, cross-border trade with Mexico, aerospace and optics clusters, semiconductor workforce development, and even controversial data center projects. Heath shares how a four-and-a-half-person team coordinates across municipalities, tribal nations, academia, and public health to execute a regional strategy that blends quantitative results with qualitative community engagement. From a $1.2 billion battery manufacturing project to evolving policies on nondisclosure agreements and enhanced due diligence, this conversation offers a behind-the-scenes look at modern county-level economic development in action Like this show? Please leave us a review here — even one sentence helps! Special Guest: Heath Vescovi-Chiordi.

    24 min
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Dane Carlson explores the strategies, ideas, and insights that are driving economic development forward into the future. You'll hear new insights from passionate ED's about their successes and struggles, and you'll learn from attraction and retention experts about how to apply actionable strategies inside your EDO. We'll help take your organization, your community, and your career to the next level.

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