Hackers Incorporated

Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan

Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan on surviving the transition from dev to founder.

  1. 27 JAN

    Ben Spent $600 on Amp credits

    The boys are back and Ben has been coding! Amp vs Claude Code vs Codex. Clawdbot. The Agentification Era.  Sorry about Ben's audio. We think it was Riverside's fault, sadly.

    1h 1m

  2. 13/01/2025

    2024 year in review and plans for 2025

    In this episode, Adam and Ben sit down to reflect on how things went in 2024 in their business and personal lives and talk about their plans for 2025.

    1h 28m

  3. 04/10/2024

    Catching up

    Adam and Ben are back on the mics after nine months to give an update on their lives. Timestamps (00:00) - Catching up (00:18) - Fitness update (18:13) - House updates (24:53) - Ben update (35:11) - Tailwind Labs update LinksAdam on XBen on X

    45 min

  4. 25/05/2024

    Hiring for tiny teams with Justin Jackson

    Adam just wrapped up a big hiring project at Tailwind Labs, adding both a new engineer and a new designer to the team. In this episode he talks through the process with Justin Jackson, founder of Transistor, to compare notes and record what worked, what didn't, and how he will approach hiring in the future after going through this process. Timestamps (00:00) - Talking hiring with Justin Jackson from Transistor (01:05) - Adam's recent hiring project at Tailwind Labs (02:00) - Justin's history with hiring at Transistor (03:51) - How Transistor recruited their team (05:48) - Background on Adam's hiring project (16:54) - How to stand out as a candidate (26:29) - Who applied at Tailwind Labs — and who didn't (35:26) - Who ended up getting the offers (39:28) - The interview process (53:49) - Finding candidates, relationship building, and increasing luck surface area LinksJob postings for the roles at Tailwind LabsAdam on XBen on XJustin on X

    1h 39m

  5. 02/04/2024

    Ben steps away from Tuple

    After almost six years, Ben has stepped away from day-to-day work on Tuple and moved to its board. Friend of the pod Aaron Francis interviews Ben about the whole beautiful, complicated, enriching experience. As a treat, the boys dive into what's next for Aaron as well.

    1h 11m

  6. 17/01/2024

    Building the HEY Calendar with Jason Fried

    37signals have talked a lot about how they build new features for existing products using Shape Up, where they carefully hammer the scope to avoid letting anything ever drag on for more than six weeks. But there's not a lot of information out there about how they approach new product development, where it can take over a year to actually get the first version out the door. In this episode, Adam goes deep with Jason Fried about building and shipping their new HEY Calendar product, and whether or not Shape Up was part of that process. Timestamps (00:00) - Building the HEY Calendar with Jason Fried (01:04) - Why build a calendar (04:12) - How 37signals approach new product development (07:30) - Deciding on scope before launch (13:13) - Was there a six-week version of the HEY Calendar? (15:38) - Deciding how much time to spend on a new product (17:46) - Was the HEY Calendar built using Shape Up? (22:20) - Working on one feature at a time vs. in parallel (28:47) - What cycles look like at the early beginnings of a product (38:49) - How a project starts (45:46) - Increasing surface area vs. finishing things (47:57) - The development process for HEY Calendar going forward LinksAdam on TwitterBen on TwitterJason on TwitterJason's walkthrough of the HEY CalendarHEY Calendar

    51 min

  7. 14/01/2024

    Ben and Adam review 2023

    In this episode, Adam and Ben sit down to evaluate how things went in 2023 in their business and personal lives. The dudes share kind of a lot in this one! More personal flavor than usual. Lots about fitness, mental health, gathering, and rascally-ness. Timestamps (00:00) - Ben and Adam review 2023 (03:17) - Ben wants to be more of a rascal (07:58) - Health update (30:06) - Ben wants to prioritize creating "gatherings" (39:06) - Following your intuition (52:49) - Tailwind Labs business review (01:07:37) - Productivity (01:20:11) - 2023 lowlights — things to improve in 2024 LinksAdam on TwitterBen on Twitter

    1h 37m

  8. 04/12/2023

    Revisiting the Tailwind Labs business model

    In this episode, Adam and Ben talk through the Tailwind Labs business model. Is Tailwind UI the best way for the company to make money? Or is there a different model where incentives are better aligned with growing the Tailwind CSS community as a whole? One potential model is offering a marketplace for templates and UI kits. Timestamps (00:00) - Black Friday (04:58) - Continuously improving stuff (12:50) - Tuple Rooms (16:15) - Revisiting the Tailwind Labs business model (27:28) - Brainstorming a Tailwind CSS marketplace (39:54) - Should Tailwind Labs build a SaaS? LinksAdam on TwitterBen on Twitter

    46 min
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Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan on surviving the transition from dev to founder.

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  • Creator
    Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    21
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Ben Orenstein and Adam Wathan
  • Show Website
    Hackers Incorporated

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