Attorney Biz Dev

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Whether you work in a in a big firm, in a small partnership, or as an independent lawyer, we discuss the topics that will help you to become more successful in business development and gain more independence for your legal career.  We recognize that you're short on time, all our episodes aim for a 20 minutes limit. So this podcast is designed to be listened to when you're commuting to and from work or going for a walk or doing almost anything except work. This podcast is hosted by: Bill Burns, Business Development Executive at Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP Tobi Steinemann, Founder and Strategic Legal Marketing Consultant at HeadStarterz

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  1. VOR 2 TAGEN

    How Lawyers Make Time for Business Development

    You know you should be doing more business development. The problem is finding the time between client work, billable hour targets, and, well, the rest of your life. In this episode, Bill and Tobi tackle the number one excuse attorneys give for not doing business development and break down exactly how to work around it. Note, not all activities take the same amount of time, and knowing the difference is the key. We also discuss the content marketing angle that will make you rethink how much you're already sitting on: how to source content effortlessly from your client conversations, how to turn one blog post into a month of LinkedIn material, and how a Swiss law firm started generating qualified leads from content they'd already written – with almost no extra effort. Whether you have five minutes or a full afternoon, this episode gives you a concrete playbook for making business development actually happen, consistently, intentionally, and without overhauling your life. You'll walk away with: A simple 3-tier time framework (minutes / hours / days) to match BD activities to your schedule The "content parking space" trick for never running out of things to write about How to repurpose a single blog post into multiple LinkedIn posts What "upcycling" content means and how one firm turned anonymous website traffic into real leads Why strategic clarity (not more time) is often the real bottleneck

    21 Min.

  2. 24. MÄRZ

    Personal Branding for Lawyers: What Clients Really See

    What do people actually think of you as a lawyer? And are you shaping that perception on purpose? In this episode, Bill Tobi break down what personal branding really means for attorneys and why it’s far more than just LinkedIn posts. It’s about the sum of every interaction, every email, every appearance, and every piece of content that shapes how clients and peers perceive you. You’ll hear: A clear, practical definition of personal branding (and why every lawyer already has one) The difference between strategy (how you want to be perceived) and execution (how you show up daily) Why authenticity (not performance) is the foundation of a strong legal brand The “branding frog” concept and how consistency turns isolated efforts into real impact How tools like LinkedIn, speaking, publishing, PR, and SEO actually work together The relationship between personal brand and firm brand and why you can’t hide behind your firm Why generative AI may undermine authenticity in legal marketing (and how to use it carefully) Beyond the theory, the episode dives into what really makes or breaks a lawyer’s brand in practice: responsiveness, active listening, attention to detail, and the ability to “read the room”. Because even the best marketing efforts fall apart if the real-world interaction doesn’t match the promise. This episode is for: Attorneys who want to build visibility and credibility in a way that actually feels natural Legal marketers helping lawyers develop authentic, sustainable personal brands Firms trying to balance individual visibility with a cohesive firm brand If you’ve ever wondered whether personal branding is worth the effort or how to do it without becoming “salesy” or inauthentic: This conversation will give you both clarity and direction. Because whether you like it or not, your brand is already out there. The only question is: are you building it intentionally?

    19 Min.

  3. 10. MÄRZ

    Referral Marketing: How Lawyers Get More Recommendations

    Referrals are all around you. The question is: are you actually seeing them? In this episode of the 20 Minute Attorney Business Development Podcast, Tobias Steinemann and Bill Burns unpack what really drives referral marketing for lawyers and why “just do good work” is only the beginning. From plumbers to global legal networks, this episode explores how referrals happen in real life, why so many are lost, and what attorneys and legal marketers can do to increase the odds that a recommendation turns into a real conversation. You’ll hear: What factors referrers consider when chosing the person they recommend AND: how you can influence them Why conferences and international associations only work if you play the long game The hidden risk of “pay-to-play” referral events Why up to 80% of referrals may never result in contact and how branding and digital footprint make or beak that moment How relevance, differentiation, and visible expertise determine whether someone actually reaches out The episode also tackles a common misconception in law firm marketing: the idea that firms “don’t need branding because we get our work from referrals.” Referrals and branding are not opposites, they are inseparable. For attorneys who want to build sustainable books of business and for legal marketers designing referral and visibility strategies, this conversation offers both practical guidance and a broader mindset shift. Because referrals don’t just happen. They compound when expertise, visibility, and relationships align.

    20 Min.

  4. 24. FEB.

    Business Development for Young Attorneys

    Business doesn’t fall out of the sky. And yet many young attorneys start their careers as if it might. In this episode of the 20 Minute Attorney Business Development Podcast, Bill Burns and Tobi Steinemann take a candid look at what really happens when legal talent meets the reality of revenue. Drawing on Tobi’s early experience in a small Basel law firm and Bill’s decades of coaching associates inside a mid-sized U.S. firm, they unpack why business development feels so intimidating at first, and why ignoring it is the fastest way to lose control of your career. You’ll hear: Why “independence” and “control” are what every lawyer needs to aim for How firms can (and should) structure business development from year one to partnership What internal relationship-building actually means and why it’s not optional The simple but powerful habit of inventorying your contacts and tracking outreach and more... This episode is especially relevant for: Young associates trying to balance billable hours, politics, and a personal life Partners who want to grow the pie instead of hoard it Legal marketers and BD professionals building structured development programs If you care about long-term career autonomy, intentional relationship-building, and creating a culture where associates don’t feel like pinballs in a machine, this conversation will give you both practical ideas and a shift in perspective  Because at some point, every lawyer faces the same truth: someone has to go find the next case.

    21 Min.

  5. 10. FEB.

    How to Close a Client

    Great conversations don’t automatically turn into business. So what actually closes the deal? In this episode of the 20 Minute Attorney Business Development Podcast, Tobias Steinemann and Bill Burns tackle the final – and often most uncomfortable – stage of business development: asking for the work. They dig into what strong closers actually have in common (hint: it’s not extroversion), why curiosity and confidence matter more than charm, and how rushing to a quote can quietly sabotage a deal. The conversation moves through pricing, budgets, proposals, and RFPs, unpacking why competing on price alone is a losing strategy and how undervaluing your work damages relationships before they even begin. Tune in for hard-earned insights on when to say no, how to spot the wrong kind of client early, and three practical ways to ask for the business – without sounding salesy or desperate. From alternative fee arrangements to small, low-risk starter projects, this episode offers a grounded, realistic look at how lawyers can close work while protecting their time, their value, and their sanity. If you’ve ever wondered whether you should push harder, wait longer, or walk away entirely, this episode gives you a clearer framework for deciding what comes next.

    22 Min.

  6. 27. JAN.

    How to find out what clients really need

    How do you figure out what clients really want? Especially when they’re not saying it out loud... In this episode Tobias Steinemann and Bill Burns unpack one of the hardest questions in professional services: understanding client needs. They explore why genuine curiosity beats transactional thinking, how preparation and research can transform first conversations with prospects, and why trust is the real currency of business development. From using LinkedIn as a research and relationship tool, to client listening meetings, lunch-and-learns, and the quiet power of active listening, this conversation is packed with practical insights lawyers can actually use. The episode also looks ahead, asking how changing technology and AI are reshaping client expectations – and why lawyers who position themselves as strategic advisors will thrive, while purely reactive service providers risk being replaced. If you want deeper client relationships, better conversations, and more meaningful work, this episode is a sharp reminder that business development starts long before the ask.

    20 Min.

  7. 13. JAN.

    How to Build Business Relationships

    Attorney business development is heavily based on relationships. Many lawyers focus on showcasing their legal expertise instead of properly looking after their relationships. In this episode, Bill and Tobi discuss why relationships are the differentiating factor and what lawyers can actively do to successfully build relationships that will help develop their business.

    19 Min.
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Whether you work in a in a big firm, in a small partnership, or as an independent lawyer, we discuss the topics that will help you to become more successful in business development and gain more independence for your legal career.  We recognize that you're short on time, all our episodes aim for a 20 minutes limit. So this podcast is designed to be listened to when you're commuting to and from work or going for a walk or doing almost anything except work. This podcast is hosted by: Bill Burns, Business Development Executive at Porter Wright Morris & Arthur LLP Tobi Steinemann, Founder and Strategic Legal Marketing Consultant at HeadStarterz

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