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Are you paralyzed by the fear and risks associated with a career change at 30, 40, 50, or even 60? If you're ready to break free from traditional career paths and master your future, you've found the right place!

Vince Chan: mastering 18 career shifts in 36 years

I am your host, Vince Chan. My life story is a testament to overcoming fears and mastering futures on my own terms. Since the age of 15, I've navigated 18 career transitions across 36 years. I've weathered six economic crises, adapted to life in over 10 cities, and overcome battles with mental illness. But I've done more than just survive—I've thrived. From managing billion-dollar funds and publishing two books to navigating the academic halls of Yale and Chicago Booth and speaking on global education technology stages, I bring you wisdom not just from my victories but from the challenges I’ve faced, each time emerging stronger.

What's in it for you?

To help you get unstuck, minimize risks, and conquer fears—so you can reshape your career on your own terms, with resilience and intelligence—I created the "Chief Change Officer" podcast.

Here, I don’t just celebrate superficial success or gloss over painful failures—I share time-tested, real-life stories of career transformation that are both lived and learnable.

The centerpiece of the podcast is the learnable career story told by real-life role models, akin to the business cases used in the HBS Case Method, a century-old educational standard still revered in top modern business schools. Each episode is crafted to deliver practical insights you can immediately apply to your own career.

Guests: credible and diverse role models

I meticulously select the most credible global figures for you to learn from. This careful curation ensures that every episode not only expands your understanding but also maximises your ability to supercharge your own incredible careers.

My guests range from the youngest Singaporean parliamentarian at 30, who shares her candid experiences overcoming ageism in politics and social media attacks, to a trailblazing LGBT tech CEO at 60, discussing her transformation from oboe musician to sales and revenue technology leader. You’ll also hear from a polyglot Russian diplomat turned energy innovator in Cincinnati at 50, who explores the self-starter skills needed to pivot industries successfully, and a Parisian lawyer who left banking at 40 to dedicate herself to building the youth economy in Senegal, offering insights into global entrepreneurship.

Bonus: No Ads, Just Pure Inspiration: An added bonus—my podcast features no ads, no political, corporate, or sales talk, ensuring authentic and uninterrupted conversations.

Join Our Community of Career Masters: Engage with @thevincechan on Linkedin and Threads. Share your career challenges and aspirations, and you could possibly feature in an episode, receiving free, personalized guidance.

Chief Change Officer: Make Your Laws of Change
Home to Career Mastery: Shift Your Career Gears on Your Own TermsHighest Rankings Since Launch:Business: 6 in UK || 13 in US > AppleCareers: 1 in US || 2 in UK || 5 in SE > Apple300,000 streams and 10,000 followers > Apple + SpotifySubscribe. Inspire. Thrive.

Chief Change Officer Vince Chan

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Are you paralyzed by the fear and risks associated with a career change at 30, 40, 50, or even 60? If you're ready to break free from traditional career paths and master your future, you've found the right place!

Vince Chan: mastering 18 career shifts in 36 years

I am your host, Vince Chan. My life story is a testament to overcoming fears and mastering futures on my own terms. Since the age of 15, I've navigated 18 career transitions across 36 years. I've weathered six economic crises, adapted to life in over 10 cities, and overcome battles with mental illness. But I've done more than just survive—I've thrived. From managing billion-dollar funds and publishing two books to navigating the academic halls of Yale and Chicago Booth and speaking on global education technology stages, I bring you wisdom not just from my victories but from the challenges I’ve faced, each time emerging stronger.

What's in it for you?

To help you get unstuck, minimize risks, and conquer fears—so you can reshape your career on your own terms, with resilience and intelligence—I created the "Chief Change Officer" podcast.

Here, I don’t just celebrate superficial success or gloss over painful failures—I share time-tested, real-life stories of career transformation that are both lived and learnable.

The centerpiece of the podcast is the learnable career story told by real-life role models, akin to the business cases used in the HBS Case Method, a century-old educational standard still revered in top modern business schools. Each episode is crafted to deliver practical insights you can immediately apply to your own career.

Guests: credible and diverse role models

I meticulously select the most credible global figures for you to learn from. This careful curation ensures that every episode not only expands your understanding but also maximises your ability to supercharge your own incredible careers.

My guests range from the youngest Singaporean parliamentarian at 30, who shares her candid experiences overcoming ageism in politics and social media attacks, to a trailblazing LGBT tech CEO at 60, discussing her transformation from oboe musician to sales and revenue technology leader. You’ll also hear from a polyglot Russian diplomat turned energy innovator in Cincinnati at 50, who explores the self-starter skills needed to pivot industries successfully, and a Parisian lawyer who left banking at 40 to dedicate herself to building the youth economy in Senegal, offering insights into global entrepreneurship.

Bonus: No Ads, Just Pure Inspiration: An added bonus—my podcast features no ads, no political, corporate, or sales talk, ensuring authentic and uninterrupted conversations.

Join Our Community of Career Masters: Engage with @thevincechan on Linkedin and Threads. Share your career challenges and aspirations, and you could possibly feature in an episode, receiving free, personalized guidance.

Chief Change Officer: Make Your Laws of Change
Home to Career Mastery: Shift Your Career Gears on Your Own TermsHighest Rankings Since Launch:Business: 6 in UK || 13 in US > AppleCareers: 1 in US || 2 in UK || 5 in SE > Apple300,000 streams and 10,000 followers > Apple + SpotifySubscribe. Inspire. Thrive.

    From Theatre Historian to Chicago Booth Entrepreneurship Professor: Waverly Deutsch Marries Her Love of Theatre with a Passion for Logic

    From Theatre Historian to Chicago Booth Entrepreneurship Professor: Waverly Deutsch Marries Her Love of Theatre with a Passion for Logic

    This is Part 1 of our three-part series "Love and Logic."

    Waverly Deutsch joins us as our special guest to share how the dynamic interplay of passion and reason has shaped her career and life choices. This episode dives into Waverly’s captivating journey, with future episodes delving into her influential tenure at Chicago Booth and her latest venture, WyseHeart Advisory, which operates under the mantra of “tough love for entrepreneurs.”

    Why Waverly?

    Known as “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” Waverly is celebrated for her straightforward feedback. Yet, unlike Cowell’s often blunt critiques, Waverly’s tough love always comes with a constructive twist. After telling someone, “You just talked for ten minutes and we have no idea what you do,” she’ll add, “and I want to work with you because there are three things we can do to fix it.” That’s the kind of coach and professor she is—direct yet deeply supportive.

    Episode Breakdown:

    00:56 — Introduction to “Love & Logic” Series: What sparked this series? What can listeners expect from this episode and the ones to follow?
    3:46 — Exploring Identities: “My twin passions for theatre and logic have always driven me,” Waverly shares. Discover how these seemingly disparate interests have shaped her approach to teaching and coaching.
    7:45 — Breaking Ground in STEM: Journey back to the early ’80s as Waverly recounts her experience as one of the four women in her computer science class, finding her tribe among like-minded ‘nerds.’
    10:31 — Defying Gender Norms: Waverly reflects on her upbringing as a tomboy and challenges the traditional gender associations with love and logic. “These are human traits, not bound by gender,” she asserts.
    12:41 — From Tech to Theatre: Why the dramatic shift from a computer science major to a Theatre PhD? Waverly explains, “I realized teaching is my calling.”
    15:27 — A Serendipitous Detour: Joining Forrester Research early on and experiencing its growth to a public company—was it luck, destiny, or something else?
    21:43 — The Art of Decision-Making: Waverly discusses how she navigates through career choices. “It’s about blending analysis with going with the flow,” she explains.
    26:54 — Debunking Business Myths: “It’s a myth that business isn’t personal. At the end of the day, it’s all about people,” Waverly talks about the interplay of emotions in business.
    34:44 — Filtering Out the Noise: How to deal with peer pressure and societal judgments? Waverly offers advice on building a supportive community and developing resilience, “so you can stand strong even when the world isn’t quite ready for you.”

    Connect with Us:
    Waverly Deutsch and Vince Chan
    Chief Change Officer: Make Your Laws of Change
    A Global Home to Career Mastery for Progressive MindsHighest Rankings Since Launch:Business: #6 in UK || #13 in US > Apple >Careers: #1 in US and CA || #2 in UK || #3 in SE > Apple >420,000+ Streams and 12,500+ Followers > Apple + Spotify >Subscribe. Inspire. Thrive.

    • 42 Min.
    The Art of Coaching: What 22 Years at Chicago Booth Have Taught Waverly Deutsch About Love, Logic, and AI

    The Art of Coaching: What 22 Years at Chicago Booth Have Taught Waverly Deutsch About Love, Logic, and AI

    Ever had a mentor who changed your life, or maybe a coach who wasn’t just a coach but more of a life-saver?

    This is Part 2 of a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.”

    This Pride Month, we’re celebrating the spirit of championing our true identities with a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.” Waverly Deutsch, a proud member of the LGBTQ community and a staunch advocate for women entrepreneurs, navigates her multifaceted identity with aplomb— from a theater lover to PhD, from a STEM major to MBA professor, and from retiree to a baby boomer coaching venture builder.

    Waverly, often compared to “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” is celebrated not just for her straightforward feedback but for coupling it with practical, transformative advice. It’s this combination of tough love and insightful guidance that has influenced her approach to teaching and entrepreneurship at WyseHeart Advisory.

    Episode Breakdown:

    00:23 — Continuing the Journey in “Love & Logic”: Picking up where we left off last episode, what can listeners expect from this one and the next?

    2:57 — Two Decades at Chicago Booth: “Undergrads bubble over with innovation, while executive MBAs might hold back on creativity,” Waverly observes. Explore how she navigates the diverse challenges faced by students at a top school, applying her signature blend of love and logic in teaching and coaching.

    8:57 — Case Study in Compassion and Calculation: Meet Katlin Smith, who evolved Simple Mills from a fledgling startup in 2012 into one of 2023’s most innovative food companies, as named by Fast Company. How did Waverly’s guidance play a role?
    NVC = New Venture Challenge

    18:07 — Coaching a World of Entrepreneurs: Transitioning from academic halls to the entrepreneurial arena, Waverly discusses the unique advantages and challenges of coaching a broad spectrum of innovators.

    23:48 — The Art of Active Listening: “Excellent listening skills are crucial for effective learning and connecting,” says Waverly. She shares insights on engaging with entrepreneurs from diverse backgrounds.

    27:11 — AI and Human Coaching: The Love and Logic Mix: While AI excels in logic, crafting flawless pitch decks and resumes, Waverly emphasizes, “Building a business is about fostering human relationships. AI might set the stage, but it’s the human touch that builds real connections with investors and employers.”

    Connect with Us:
    Waverly Deutsch and Vince Chan
    Chief Change Officer: Make Your Laws of Change
    A Global Home to Career Mastery for Progressive MindsHighest Rankings Since Launch:Business: #6 in UK || #13 in US > Apple >Careers: #1 in US and CA || #2 in UK || #3 in SE > Apple >420,000+ Streams and 12,500+ Followers > Apple + Spotify >Subscribe. Inspire. Thrive.

    • 36 Min.
    Final Act: How Waverly Deutsch Elevates Underrepresented Entrepreneurs with Love and Logic

    Final Act: How Waverly Deutsch Elevates Underrepresented Entrepreneurs with Love and Logic

    This is Part 3 of a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.”

    This Pride Month, we’re celebrating the spirit of championing our true identities with a special three-part podcast series titled “Love and Logic.” Waverly Deutsch, a proud member of the LGBTQ community and a staunch advocate for women entrepreneurs, navigates her multifaceted identity with aplomb— from a theater lover to PhD, from a STEM major to MBA professor, and from retiree to a baby boomer coaching venture builder.

    Waverly, often compared to “the Simon Cowell of the Chicago Booth New Venture Challenge,” is celebrated not just for her straightforward feedback but for coupling it with practical, transformative advice. It’s this combination of tough love and insightful guidance that has influenced her approach to coaching underrepresented entrepreneurs at WyseHeart Advisory.

    Episode Breakdown:

    00:21—Finale of the “Love & Logic” Trilogy: What’s in store for the final act of our three-part series?

    3:24 — Wyseheart’s Big Pitch: Watch Waverly pitch her unique venture—think of it as Chicago Booth-quality coaching with a twist, aimed at empowering underrepresented entrepreneurs. It’s diversity with a dash of love and a pinch of logic.

    10:45 — “Why It Matters for LBGTQ Entrepreneurs to Come Out”: In 2016, Waverly shared her insights on why it’s crucial for LGBTQ entrepreneurs to be visible on Chicago Booth Review. Fast forward to today, and discover why these discussions are more vital than ever.

    15:20 — Addressing an Overlooked Age-related Challenge: Dive into Waverly’s perspective on ageism, a critical yet often ignored diversity and economics issue in both the workplace and the entrepreneurial world.

    25:30 — The Origin of ‘Wyseheart’: Ever wondered where the name ‘Wyseheart’ came from? Uncover the story behind this heartfelt moniker.

    Connect with Us:
    Waverly Deutsch and Vince Chan
    Chief Change Officer: Make Your Laws of Change
    A Global Home to Career Mastery for Progressive MindsHighest Rankings Since Launch:Business: #6 in UK || #13 in US > Apple >Careers: #1 in US and CA || #2 in UK || #3 in SE > Apple >420,000+ Streams and 12,500+ Followers > Apple + Spotify >Subscribe. Inspire. Thrive.

    • 29 Min.
    Global Evangelist Mary Shea: How Is the Science of AI Reshaping the Art of Executive Search?

    Global Evangelist Mary Shea: How Is the Science of AI Reshaping the Art of Executive Search?

    A Multi-Billion-Dollar Question for Employers: Is Your Next CEO More Likely to Be Chosen by an Algorithm or a Headhunter?

    In this episode of the Chief Change Officer podcast, host Vince Chan welcomes back Mary Shea, PhD, a seasoned tech leader in sales and revenue enablement, to discuss the evolving landscape of HR and recruitment.

    The conversation delves into Mary's career journey, from classical musician to a senior tech role, and her current collaboration with HR tech company HireQuotient. They explore how generative AI and sophisticated recruitment technology are transforming the hiring process, especially in identifying and engaging diverse candidates.

    Additionally, Vince and Mary discuss the importance of human touch in technology-driven recruitment, share personal anecdotes, and offer advice for job seekers navigating an increasingly AI-driven market.

    Episode Breakdown:

    00:20—Welcome and Introductions: Meet Your Human Host (While I'm Still Employed)

    03:17—HireQuotient: Where Mary Decided to Play Cupid Between Job Seekers and AI

    09:01—Unveiling HireQuotient's Secret Sauce: Is It AI, Magic, or Just Really Good Coffee?

    14:35—Myth-Busting Time: How Can AI Hire Better Fit and Higher-Skilled Candidates Than Just Entry-Level Positions?

    22:28—Vince's Personal Tale: When AI Recruitment Felt More Human Than Human Recruiters (Plot Twist!)

    32:26—Mary's Job-Seeking Wisdom: Navigate the AI Maze Without Losing Your Human Touch

    36:51—Why You Should Still Network with Humans (At Least Until AI Learns to Enjoy Happy Hour)

    Connect with Us:
    Mary Shea and Vince Chan
    Chief Change Officer: Make Your Laws of Change

    A Global Home to Career Mastery for Progressive MindsHighest Apple Podcasts Careers Rankings Attained:#1 US, Canada, Ireland and Switzerland#2 UK, Sweden and Singapore || #3 India || #5 JapanKey Statistics: 500,000+ Streams and 21,000+ FollowersListen Ambitiously. Subscribe and Thrive.

    • 42 Min.
    Austin's Leadership Yoda Wayland Lum: Turning Corporate Ladders into Leadership Jungle Gyms

    Austin's Leadership Yoda Wayland Lum: Turning Corporate Ladders into Leadership Jungle Gyms

    What does the movie "Inside Out" teach us about leadership?

    My conversation with Wayland Lum from Copperbox Leadership Advisory, who brought up "fear is the precursor to courage," reminded me of Joy and Sadness in "Inside Out."

    The movie is all about human emotions. And there's this interesting dynamic between Joy and Sadness in the movie. The big lesson is that you can't really appreciate joy if you've never experienced sadness. I see a similar principle in what you were saying about fear and courage. They are not as separate as we might think. They are two sides of the same coin.

    In this episode, you'll find out why fear isn't your enemy, but rather your courage's hype man. Wayland also shared his 8 principles of modern leadership. His moves from California to Mexico to Chicago and London. From Nvidia to Chicago Booth to Korn Ferry, now building his own leadership advisory practice in Austin, Texas. Lastly, his views on the AI coaching.

    Episode Breakdown:

    00:14—Welcome and Introductions: Meet Your Human Host (While Human Intelligence is still Valued)

    02:54—The Great Escape: Why Wayland decided to ditch the cushy corporate life and bet on himself. Spoiler: It wasn't for the free snacks

    11:33—"We Develop Modern Leaders to Face the Biggest Business Challenges": How Wayland Defines Modern in the Context of Leadership?

    15:33—Wayland's Eight Principles of Modern Leadership:
    Get Grounded in Core PurposePick up the Torch of LeadershipUnderstand the Origins of HumanityEmbrace Life's Stages and SeasonsSee in SystemsNature as Majestic TeacherShackles of Time Forged by HumansTechnologies as Tools
    24:48—Wayland on AI coaching: "Coaching involves human connection, empathy, and understanding deeply personal experiences. We must ask ourselves, is an interaction with AI what we want, or do we seek genuine human connection and support?"

    Connect with Us:
    Wayland Lum and Vince Chan
    Chief Change Officer: Make Your Laws of Change

    A Global Home to Career Mastery for Progressive MindsHighest Apple Podcasts Careers Rankings Attained:#1 US, Canada, Ireland and Switzerland#2 UK, Sweden and Singapore || #3 India || #5 Japan520,000+ Streams and 23,000+ FollowersListen Ambitiously. Subscribe and Thrive.

    • 32 Min.
    Irish Mother of Three Lucy Gernon: From Biotech to Leadership Coaching for Ambitious Women

    Irish Mother of Three Lucy Gernon: From Biotech to Leadership Coaching for Ambitious Women

    Who’s been rocking the podcast charts? We have! Since our launch, we’ve attained the highest rankings in Ireland—#1 in Careers and #2 in Business.

    And believe it or not, today we’re hosting our first ever phenomenal Irish guest! High time our chart-topping success met some true Irish flair.

    Based in Dublin, Ireland, Lucy Gernon is a dedicated mother of three and a millennial who brings a rich background in biotechnology and an extensive career in medical science to her recent entrepreneurial endeavors. She focuses on coaching both emerging and established women leaders.

    This podcast aims to do more than share success stories; it delves into real, lived experiences that include triumphs, challenges, unexpected events, and significant shifts. Lucy’s journey perfectly illustrates these aspects, providing deep insights that extend beyond her professional achievements.

    Episode Breakdown:

    01:39—Meet Lucy Gernon: Two Decades in Biotech to a Two-Year Leap into Leadership Coaching

    06:14—The Turning Point: How a Sudden Loss Rewrote the Script

    10:39—Balancing Acts: Real Talk on Juggling Startups, Family, and Finances

    14:48— How Being Coached Improves Her Coaching for Under-Confident Women

    16:43—Defining Confidence: Lucy’s Take on an Overused Buzzword

    18:59—Why Executive Presence Matters for Ambitious Women: Lucy’s Masterclass

    22:59—Finding the Ideal Client: Lucy’s Journey Through Misses and Trials

    26:28—AI vs. Human Touch: Lucy Explains What AI Can’t Replace in Coaching

    Connect with Us:
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