THAT sex ed podcast

Jenny Ackland and Justine Kiely-Scott

A podcast for parents and caregivers of children and adolescents. Join co-founders of Sex Education Australia, Justine Kiely-Scott and Jenny Ackland, as they discuss the topics parents can find difficult to talk about with their children. They cover WHAT topics can (or should) be talked about, WHY it's important that parents should be talking with their kids, and HOW they can manage these conversations. Each episode, Justine and Jenny take off their 'teacher hats' and put on their 'parent hats' to chat a bit more informally about the various challenges and delights of educating young people about sexuality and relationships, and a whole lot more.

  1. 08/10/2023

    Feelings - we all have them, and need to learn to live with them

    In this episode, Justine and Jenny talk feelings. We all have them, and sometimes they can be a challenge. Even as parents and caregivers, we still have our feelings while trying to help support our children. We discuss why it's important to teach and talk about emotions, because as adults we need to be able to manage/self-regulate and express emotions appropriately, and we want to raise children into humans who are ok to be around. We chat strategies and structures and why those big emotional displays can sometimes be an indication that something is not quite right.    Mentioned in this episode: ·      Concept of ‘taught not caught’ ·      Strategies and structures ·      Tiredness can be a big factor in meltdowns ·      Hunger less so, but can be relevant ·      Sometimes big emotional displays are a sign a parent needs to probe a bit more, be curious about where it’s coming from ·      Mood swings ·      The idea of a world made for extroverts, and how introverts manage ·      Importance of parents being curious and not interrogating ·      Encouraging children to come up with self soothing strategies (that are healthy and sustainable) ·      Importance of being aware of other people’s emotions, especially important for developing empathy and learning about respect ·      Reading books – with young children, looking at the character illustrations and pointing out facial expressions ·      Empathy and the connection to fiction – imagining how things are for others ·      Anger and society/cultural attitudes; gender differences between expression of anger (girls/boys) ·      How can we teach our children to manage their anger in healthy ways ·      The importance of apology – techniques of apologising and accepting apologies. Parents need to model how to apologise Correction: difference between feelings and emotions. Many people use interchangeably but there is a technical difference Resources and other things we mention in this episode: Before Your Teenagers Drive You Crazy, Read This!: Battlefield Wisdom for Stressed-Out Parents, by Australian author Nigel Latta Lena Dunham podcast – The C Word (not educational, more a contemporary cultural look at women and how they’ve been labelled mad and bad, or ‘crazy’) Please visit our website sexeducationaustralia.com.au where you can listen to our other episodes and also browse our pages for more resources, information and support.  General primary resources are listed here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/resources-for-parents/ and secondary resources here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/secondary-resources/ Send us questions or comments to THATsexedpodcast@gmail.com

    55 min
  2. 03/09/2023

    Special guest: a chat with SEA educator Rebecca about diversity in the family and classroom

    In this wide-ranging discussion, Jenny speaks with one of our fabulous educators. Rebecca is in her fifth year working for Sex Education Australia. She is secondary-trained as a teacher and hadn’t taught sex ed before joining our company. While working with SEA, Rebecca has dabbled with all the grades but generally works in Year 5 and above, and at the secondary level. She has also done a bit of teacher training around inclusive language We talk: Gender roles, parenting roles and balancing child care with ‘outside the home’ workHow different families can beThe idea of ‘lead’ or ‘primary’ carerThe importance of listening, being exposed to perspectives we disagree withRebecca gives a great explanation of sexual intercourse – ‘something that grown-ups can do with their bodies’. Rebecca’s 5 ½ year old happy to leave it at thatAdvice to parents if have child asking to be called a different name or referring to themselves as a gender they weren’t assigned at birth. Some children are working out identity stuff really early And there are so many great quotes from Rebecca: ‘Two years ago no [students] would have known the term ‘non binary’ ‘The concepts are relatively simple, when you take the politics out of it’ ‘If you talk about people’s feelings, and you don’t write anybody’s feelings off and everyone’s allowed to have their feelings and have their perspective in a way that doesn’t dehumanise other people, that’s the closest we can maybe come to taking the politics out’ ‘ People who have daughters are really across this stuff… people who have sons think one of two things: ‘Oh he’s just a little baby still – sweet and innocent still, I don’t want to corrupt him’ or they think ‘well that’s just part of what it is to grow up to be a man and he’ll get through “gross puberty” and we’ll send him off and he’ll just get on with it.’ ‘I’m coming across these boys like today, who follow me out of the room and say “Rebecca, thank you so much.” And look me in the eye. And they are so genuine because they have not had somebody chat with them about the basic functions of their body.’ ‘The focus should be basic universal ideas around respect and consent’ ‘We need more men around who can model masculinity in positive ways’ ‘The idea that boys and men are unable to process their feelings without a woman – they need a sister or mum [to help them do that]’ . Idea from book Peggy Orenstein ‘Boys and Sex’ ‘Talk to people that you respect and trust who are well-read and who understand what the best research and best practices are. Read books, talk with your partner if you have one, think about how it’s going to work in your broader family.’ Resources: Boys and Sex – Peggy Orenstein Ezra Klein Show on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447 Rainbow Family Playgroups Billie B Brown and Hey Jack – Sally Rippin and Aki Fukuoka Anything by Cory Silverberg Visit our website sexeducationaustralia.com.au to browse our pages for more resources, information and support.  Send us questions or comments to THATsexedpodcast@gmail.com   Thanks for listening!   Jenny + Justine

    51 min
  3. 06/08/2023

    Nuts and bolts - safer sex, STIs and contraception

    Justine and Jenny talk ‘nuts and bolts’ – safer sex, STIs and contraception. We know how important it is for young people to learn how to take charge of all aspects of their health -- including their sexual health if that becomes part of their lives -- as they're growing up. Having a conversation with your young person is not promoting anything other than the idea that you want them to be informed in a way that will help them be healthy, well and safe. Research tells us young people want to hear from their parents about these topics – even if you think they’re not listening, keep talking! *** Disclaimer: we aren’t medical professionals or lawyers. This information (as well as what's presented in the episode) is for education purposes only.  Please make sure you seek professional advice if necessary *** Topics we cover: Confidentiality – eg ‘Can I see a doctor on my own? Will they tell my parents?’What is a ‘mature minor’?Medicare cards and bulk billingHow parents can consider starting a conversation around the topic of medical rights with their teenagerSexually Transmissible Infections (STIs)/contraceptionSuggest young people to do research online around contraception (from credible sources)Encourage young people to fact check, eg getting health info from TikTok etc. There are some good educators but also a lot of people with agendas and misinformationParents should let their young people know if they hear something that seems wrong or contradicts what they know or were taught, it’s important to check in about itCondoms – most easily-accessed and used form of contraception. Also protect pretty well against STIsDamsEmergency contraception (EC), also known as Plan-B by many young AustraliansIUDsSTI tests at least once a year if sexually activeStigma of STIs, disclosure of STI status to partnerUTIs/thrush/cystitis – not STIs but can be common and are something to be managedConsentImportance of being inclusive, and parents acknowledging that not all humans want to be sexual; some practice celibacy for various reasons, some identify as asexual Services we mention: Better Health Channel  Sexual Health Victoria SHV Melbourne Clinic Freecall 1800 013 952 Telephone 03 9660 4700 Mon-Fri 9am-5pm  Level 1, 94 Elizabeth Street  Melbourne VIC 3000  Jean Hailes  TikTok educator – Sex Ed with DB (18+ material; it’s ‘out there’ so be prepared)  Please visit our website sexeducationaustralia.com.au where you can listen to our other episodes and also browse our pages for more resources, information and support.    Secondary resources are listed here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/secondary-resources/ Send us questions or comments to THATsexedpodcast@gmail.com   Thanks for listening!   Jenny + Justine

    51 min
  4. 02/07/2023

    Special guest: Kardie Whelan, disability and community educator with Sexual Health Victoria

    Justine chats with Kardie Whelan, a disability and community educator at Sexual Health Victoria. Kardie has worked as a sexuality educator for people with cognitive disability for the past 15 years, and in a variety of disability settings including special schools and TAFEs. Mentioned: About language – what to use and what not to useperson first approach to languageAssumptions people shouldn’t make about a person with a disabilityChildren and young people with a disability are at greater risk of sexual abuseThe idea of approaching sexuality education from a place of pleasure rather than risk or protection platformsFinal tips 1.     Talk early, talk often 2.     Avoid jargon, innuendo 3.     Be clear 4.     Be concise Resources ·       https://www.secca.org.au/ ·       SECCA app ·       Planet Puberty ·       Anatomically correct dolls ·       https://www.amaze.org.au/2019/03/amaze-launches-autism-accessible-menstruation-resources/ ·       SHV Special Schools Toolkit Books  ·       About Masturbation for Males ·       About Masturbation for Females ·       Special Boys Business ·       Puberty and Special Girls ·       Things Tom likes ·       Things Ellie likes ·       What’s Happening to Ellie ·       What’s happening to Tom  Please visit our website sexeducationaustralia.com.au where you can listen to our other episodes and also browse our pages for more resources, information and support.  Primary resources are listed here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/resources-for-parents/ and secondary resources here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/secondary-resources/ Send us questions or comments to THATsexedpodcast@gmail.com   Thanks for listening!   Jenny + Justine

    44 min
  5. 04/06/2023

    Tricky questions (part 2) - crushes, erections and porn

    In this episode, Justine and Jenny continue their chat about how to answer those tricky questions that we can get as parents and caregivers from our children. In the classroom, our team run an activity called Anonymous Question Box and in this episode we look at some more of those Year 5/6 (age 10-11 years old) questions. As soon as they go out into the world we need to arm them. If we’ve never discussed things with them, then they won’t come to us. They are going to hear things from other people - right and wrong - and they will hear about things that confuse them. They may see things too, either material they've found themselves because of curiosity or other people may show them videos and pictures. So if we as parents aren't present and available and willing to speak, to answer questions, to correct misinformation and give clear expectations, then we are leaving our kids alone to navigate the big job of growing up.   Questions talked about in this episode: Why do people get crushes? Why do people get erections? They're embarrassing, how can I manage them? What's porn? My friend thinks it's funny but what is it? When is the right time to have sex? How does someone know they're ready? Other things we talk about:  What is normal sexual development versus what would be considered red flag behaviour (check out these graphics from the NT and QLD governments: https://education.nt.gov.au/__data/assets/image/0010/731683/traffic_lights_guide.jpg https://www.qld.gov.au/community/getting-support-health-social-issue/support-victims-abuse/child-abuse/child-sexual-abuse/sexual-behaviour-in-children Please visit our website sexeducationaustralia.com.au where you can listen to our other episodes and also browse our pages for more resources, information and support.  Primary resources are listed here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/resources-for-parents/ and secondary resources here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/secondary-resources/ Send us questions or comments to THATsexedpodcast@gmail.com   Thanks for listening!   Jenny + Justine

    40 min
  6. 07/05/2023

    Tricky questions (part 1) - sex, slang and masturbation

    Justine and Jenny answer some of the tricky questions that their team has received in schools, to show parents and caregivers how to approach the questions that can come from children towards the end of primary school.  As soon as they go out into the world we need to arm them. If we’ve never discussed things with them, then they won’t come to us. They are going to hear things from other people - right and wrong - and they will hear about things that confuse them. They may see things too, either material they've found themselves because of curiosity or other people may show them videos and pictures. So if we as parents aren't present and available and willing to speak, to answer questions, to correct misinformation and give clear expectations, then we are leaving our kids alone to navigate the big job of growing up.   Student questions answered in this episode (from year 5 & 6 students, approximately 10-11 years old): How can I tell my friends that telling jokes about sex isn't funny? What is sex? (This from a parent: I saw an 8-year-old call their mum 'sexy' in the playground after school.' What's a blow job? What's a condom? How and why do people masturbate? Resources we talk about: Sex is a Funny Word: A Book about Bodies, Feelings and YOU, by Corey Silverberg The Amazing True Story of How Babies are Made, by Fiona Katauskas Please visit our website sexeducationaustralia.com.au where you can listen to our other episodes and also browse our pages for more resources, information and support.  Primary resources are listed here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/resources-for-parents/ and secondary resources here: https://sexeducationaustralia.com.au/resources-2/secondary-resources/ Send us questions or comments to THATsexedpodcast@gmail.com   Thanks for listening!   Jenny + Justine

    1 h
  7. 02/04/2023

    Special guest: Holly-ann Martin, founder of Safe4Kids talking with Justine

    In this episode Justine talks with Holly-ann Martin, founder of Safe4Kids, which she established in 2011, to work towards child abuse prevention. In 2016, Holly-ann was inducted into the WA Women’s Hall of Fame, and some people may not know but she’s a very accomplished swing dancer. Holly-ann is working towards the reduction of child sexual abuse and so all her programs are built around the concepts of protective education. With 88% of pornography showing violence against women, 45% of all child sexual abuse being child-to-child or teenager-to-child, and with a 122% increase in online grooming over the last three years (due to Covid and children being on screens more) it would feel like an uphill battle. However, Holly-ann is tireless and dedicated. She chats in this episode with Justine Kiely-Scott. Topics covered: the remote and other work Holly-ann doeswhy Holly-ann doesn’t use the term ‘pornography’ with children under 10; and how she does talk about sexual material onlineHolly-ann says ‘it’s not just pornography. It’s horror and violence as well’how children in Holly-ann’s classes tell her the main places they see pictures of naked people are on YouTube and TikTok, and then after that iPhones and iPadswhat parents need to tell their children, to prepare for them seeing something onlinewhat children fear most about telling their parents that they’ve seen somethingthe importance of adults modelling healthy expression of feelingssafe versus unsafe secretsthe key online safety tips parents should be aware ofhow parents can report child exploitation; what they should do if they see something on their child’s phone (and what they should not do)how parents can manage risk to their child at playdates; what sorts of things to think aboutthe concept of the ‘No Trouble Bubble’why using technology as a punishment (ie threats to take it away) might not be a good ideadifference between feelings and behaviourimportance of children learning how to describe behaviour, eg instead of just saying ‘they were teasing me’ being able to say exactly what the other child was doingidea of family code words Links mentioned in the show: Online agreement for families (sign up to receive free at the link below, as well as read tips on keeping your kids safe online) https://safe4kids.com.au/strategies-to-help-ensure-your-child-is-cyber-safe/  YouTube channel with all Holly-ann’s songs (and lots of other useful videos) https://www.youtube.com/user/Thesafe4kids   Poster: what to do if a child discloses abuse https://safe4kids.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Safe4Kids-Disclosure.pdf Common Sense Media (reviews of games and films for parents to inform themselves and help them make decisions) https://www.commonsensemedia.org/ eSafety Commissioner https://www.esafety.gov.au/  Australian Centre to Counter Child Exploitation (ACCCE) https://www.accce.gov.au/  ThinkUKnow

    49 min

Descrizione

A podcast for parents and caregivers of children and adolescents. Join co-founders of Sex Education Australia, Justine Kiely-Scott and Jenny Ackland, as they discuss the topics parents can find difficult to talk about with their children. They cover WHAT topics can (or should) be talked about, WHY it's important that parents should be talking with their kids, and HOW they can manage these conversations. Each episode, Justine and Jenny take off their 'teacher hats' and put on their 'parent hats' to chat a bit more informally about the various challenges and delights of educating young people about sexuality and relationships, and a whole lot more.