Layer One

The Block

The Layer One podcast, created in collaboration with Avalanche, features co-hosts Steven Gates and Kelvin Sparks as they unpack the real forces driving the crypto market forward. Through candid conversations with the industry’s true movers and shakers, the show delivers clear, grounded insights that cut through the noise.

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  1. VOR 3 TAGEN

    VanEck's AVAX thesis: product-market fit, economic clarity & institutional distribution

    In episode six of Layer One, The Block's Kelvin Sparks and Hypha Founder Steven Gates were joined by Ava Labs's VP of Business Development of Onchain Finance, Morgan Krupetsky and VanEck's Head of Digital Asset Research Matthew Siegel. Together, the group discussed what actually drives institutional conviction in crypto. Siegel explained why VanEck chose Avalanche for its first alt-L1 ETF, citing product-market fit, economic clarity, and an active BD team onboarding real institutions. The conversation covers DATs vs ETFs, the innovator's dilemma facing banks, and why market downturns are exactly when serious builders separate from tourists. Host/Guest links: Matthew Siegel - twitter.com/matthew_sigelVanEck - twitter.com/vaneck_usMorgan Krupetsky - twitter.com/MorganKrupetsky Ava Labs - twitter.com/AvaLabs Steven Gates - ⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/stvngts⁠⁠⁠ Kelvin Sparks - ⁠⁠⁠twitter.com/imyoungsparks⁠⁠⁠  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters! 🚨 Breaking News 👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis 📈 Market Insights Subscribe now 👉 ⁠⁠⁠https://www.theblock.co/newsletters⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiring in crypto? 🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block! ✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test ⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teamsStart your free trial today  👉 ⁠⁠⁠https://theblock.co/campus

    58 Min.
  2. 27. JAN.

    "From Sand to Stone: Two GCs on the New Legal Foundation Shaping Crypto's Future"

    In episode five of Layer One, The Block's Kelvin Sparks and Hypha Founder Steven Gates were joined by Ava Labs General Counsel Lee Schneider and Plume General Counsel Salman Benaei, to discuss how the Senate bill turns crypto's legal foundation from sand to stone, and what that means for the next generation of builders. OUTLINE 00:00 - Introduction 01:28 - Salman's Path: CFTC to Crypto 05:52 - Lee on Token Sales & Legal Structures 08:17 - RWA Rights & Disclosures 12:26 - What Buyers Should Care About 15:15 - Pre-IPO Tokenized Shares 18:49 - The Governance Token Question 22:03 - The Decentralization Test Debate 28:13 - What Clarity Means for Builders 36:41 - TradFi's Crypto Play 44:31 - Open vs Closed Networks 51:20 - Outro Host/Guest links: Salman Banaei - https://x.com/banamlas Lee Schneider - https://x.com/leelaughs5x Steven Gates - ⁠⁠twitter.com/stvngts⁠⁠ Kelvin Sparks - ⁠⁠twitter.com/imyoungsparks⁠⁠ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters! 🚨 Breaking News 👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis 📈 Market Insights Subscribe now 👉 ⁠⁠https://www.theblock.co/newsletters⁠⁠ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiring in crypto? 🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block! ✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test ⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teamsStart your free trial today 👉 ⁠⁠https://theblock.co/campus

    52 Min.
  3. 20. JAN.

    Building AI-Native Blockchain Infrastructure with Kite AI's BD Chief Lei Lei

    In episode four of Layer One, The Block's Kelvin Sparks and Hypha Founder Steven Gates were joined by Kite AI's Head of Business Development and Strategy, Lei Lei, to discuss why AI agents need dedicated blockchain infrastructure rather than general purpose blockchains. The trio also touch on the recent hype around Claude Code, why enterprise giants are panicking about AI disruption, and how the X-402 payments protocol did $600M in volume last year. OUTLINE 00:00 - Introduction 01:13 - Claude Code 04:26 - Why Avalanche 09:40 - X-402 Explained 13:01 - General Purpose Chains 19:37 - Swarms Gone Rogue 26:53 - Crypto-Native Enterprises? 30:03 - $600M & Counting 37:04 - Big Name Backers 42:07 - Winners & Losers 47:30 - Outro Host/Guest links: Lei Lei - https://x.com/lei_lei0904 ⁠KiteAI - ⁠https://x.com/GoKiteAI Steven Gates - ⁠twitter.com/stvngts⁠ Kelvin Sparks - ⁠twitter.com/imyoungsparks⁠ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters! 🚨 Breaking News 👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis 📈 Market Insights Subscribe now 👉 ⁠https://www.theblock.co/newsletters⁠ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiring in crypto? 🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block! ✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test ⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teamsStart your free trial today 👉 ⁠https://theblock.co/campus

    48 Min.
  4. Anthony Scaramucci on tokenizing Wall Street and why it's '1998 for Crypto'

    11.12.2025

    Anthony Scaramucci on tokenizing Wall Street and why it's '1998 for Crypto'

    In episode two of Layer One, The Block’s Kelvin Sparks and Hypha Founder Steven Gates, were joined by guest co-host and Ava Labs President John Wu, and Skybridge Founder and Managing Partner, Anthony Scaramucci to discuss we are in the crypto cycle, how Avalanche is positioned to facilitate institutional adoption, and how upcoming U.S. regulation like the Clarity Act could unlock the next wave of onchain finance. Host/Guest links: Anthony Scaramucci - https://x.com/Scaramucci John Wu - https://x.com/John1wu Steven Gates - https://x.com/stvngts Kelvin Sparks - https://x.com/imyoungsparks OUTLINE 00:00 - Introduction 01:05 - Scaramucci’s Background 04:25 - FTX, Abu Dhabi & Leadership Lessons 08:58 - Why Avalanche Wins Institutions 12:24 - Project Crypto, Policy & Partisanship 17:04 - The Clarity Act & Tokenization Boom 25:39 - Stablecoins vs Traditional Payments 32:24 - DeFi, RWAs & Liquidity 47:23 - Where We Are in the Cycle 49:41 - Fed, Macro Outlook & Closing --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters! 🚨 Breaking News 👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis 📈 Market Insights Subscribe now 👉 https://www.theblock.co/newsletters -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiring in crypto? 🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block! ✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test ⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teamsStart your free trial today 👉 https://theblock.co/campus

    1 Std. 9 Min.
  5. Introducing Layer One: Poker Logic Meets Crypto Reality

    20.11.2025

    Introducing Layer One: Poker Logic Meets Crypto Reality

    The Block is proud to introduce our newest podcast: Layer One — created in collaboration with Avalanche. Hosted by The Block’s Kelvin Sparks and Hypha Founder Steven Gates, Layer One explores the people, ideas, and technologies shaping the future of crypto. In this inaugural episode, Kelvin and Steven are joined by Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly, and Sean Lippel, General Partner at Fintech Collective. Together, our dive into their origins in the world of poker — and how the decision-making frameworks, risk management skills, and psychological insights they developed at the table carry over into crypto, trading, and investing. Host/Guest links: Haseeb Qureshi - https://x.com/hosseeb Sean Lippel - https://x.com/seanlippel Steven Gates - https://x.com/stvngts Kelvin Sparks - https://x.com/imyoungsparks OUTLINE 00:00 Introduction 1:07 Poker-to-Crypto Pipeline 5:36 Biggest Risks & Bad Beats 11:38 Poker Brains, VC Games 17:08 Reading the Market Regime 21:54 Betting on 2029 25:09 DeFi Growing Pains 31:44 Institutions Meet DeFi 37:17 Stablecoins, RWAs, Alts 46:13 DATs, Staking & Yield 54:47 The Avalanche Thesis 1:00:44 Vertically Integrated Moments 1:06:52 Pump.Fun & Sign-Off ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subscribe to The Block's Newsletters! 🚨 Breaking News 👨‍🔬 Expert Analysis 📈 Market Insights Subscribe now 👉 https://www.theblock.co/newsletters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hiring in crypto? 🧠 Find top talent fast with Campus, powered by The Block! ✅ Challenge candidates with our Crypto Assessment Test ⚡ Hire faster, build stronger teamsStart your free trial today 👉 https://theblock.co/campus

    1 Std. 9 Min.

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The Layer One podcast, created in collaboration with Avalanche, features co-hosts Steven Gates and Kelvin Sparks as they unpack the real forces driving the crypto market forward. Through candid conversations with the industry’s true movers and shakers, the show delivers clear, grounded insights that cut through the noise.