With Corona Under the Ocean the podcast series is exploring the impact of the Covid-19 pandemic crisis on ocean research, as well as its effect on the ocean itself. Using the practice of storytelling, the ten chapters (episodes 6 –15) present conversations between writer and curator Sonia Fernández Pan and guests from various disciplines. The series offers a transoceanic perspective emerging from the fields of marine science, postcolonial studies, speculative histories, and political imagination.
The recordings of the first six episodes (Introduction and episodes 1 – 5) have been made in Venice during TBA21–Academy, The Current II, Summer School and Convening #2: Phenomenal Ocean both led by Chus Martínez, head of the Art Institute in Basel, and held at TBA21–Academy at Ocean Space in Venice in September 2019.
Can what is necessary be as well pleasurable? Can a radical transformation, following the principles of feminism, anti-racism, and anti-fascism eventually be easier than we think and closer than we expect?
In addition to Chus Martínez and Markus Reymann, director of TBA21–Academy, the first six conversations include marine scientists Skye Morét and Marzia Rovere, geneticist Alexander Tarakhovsky, writer Ingo Niermann, and Francesca Mussi, a researcher in international law, as well as artists Julieta Aranda, Elena Mazzi, Marco Roso, Teresa Solar, and Lena Maria Thüring.
Introduction Phenomenal Ocean
We tried to free ourselves from nature but exploited it to the point of self-destruction. Nature seems to have brought us back, but we actually never left. We just forgot about nature—including our very own.
Listen to Chus Martínez, head of the Art Institute in Basel; Markus Reymann, director of TBA21–Academy; and marine scientist Skye Morét.
Not Enough Data
We can’t exist beyond nature but science can? Now that we’re doomed, can we at least free science from us? Is the era of a true, posthuman science about to begin or will science be destroyed by our vain efforts to save ourselves?
Listen to Chus Martínez in conversation with marine scientist Marzia Rovere and geneticist Alexander Tarakhovsky.
The Beginning of the Line
We affirm ourselves as the center of evolution by saving it from our own destruction. Our new heroism is to keep things, at best, as bad as they are. What does good even mean? We are the joke of evolution—and nobody’s laughing.Listen to Chus Martínez in conversation with marine scientist Skye Morét and writer Ingo Niermann.
Challenging the Format
Science has to generate output. Art has to cater to an audience. Could art and science join forces to free science from definite outputs and art from definite audiences? Or would art then also be measured by its outcome and science by its audience?Listen to Chus Martínez in conversation with artists Julieta Aranda, Marco Roso, and Elena Mazzi.
Law of the Sea
If it’s already difficult to protect nature in our own country, how do we protect nature in the extraterritorial sea? And who is there to protect the nature—and the people—of a country that is disappearing into the sea?Listen to Chus Martínez in conversation with Francesca Mussi, a researcher in international law.
Facts and Fiction
Our nature inclines us to listen to stories, not to lists, charts, and equations. To change our mind, we need a compelling narrative that turns obstacles into challenges and chances into hopes. The role of art is to foster that transformation, but also to spoil it wherever it’s lame.Listen to Chus Martínez in conversation with artists Lena Maria Thüring and Teresa Solar.