Hot Mics with Billy Bush

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    Dr. Drew Pinsky joins Billy Bush for a wide-ranging conversation about the Lindsay Clancy trial, Hayden Panettiere’s death, addiction, psychiatric treatment — and where the medical system may be failing patients.

    With closing arguments underway in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial, Billy asks Dr. Drew the question now facing the jury: Was Lindsay criminally responsible for killing her three children, or was she experiencing a temporary psychotic episode that left her unable to understand the wrongfulness of what she was doing? Dr. Drew draws on more than 30 years working in a psychiatric hospital and says the postpartum psychosis cases he encountered were among the most severely psychotic patients he ever treated. He explains the phenomenon of “altruistic filicide,” the critical difference between medical and legal definitions of insanity, and why Lindsay’s reported 18-to-20-minute window of psychosis strikes him as unusual. The conversation then turns to Lindsay’s treatment. Dr. Drew examines her complicated medication history, the role of telehealth, the possibility of medication-related symptoms and what he sees as a fundamental problem with American medicine: the disappearance of a primary-care “quarterback” capable of coordinating a patient’s treatment across multiple doctors, hospitals and prescriptions. Billy and Dr. Drew also debate what justice should look like for Lindsay and whether this case could become a catalyst for a much larger examination of postpartum psychosis, maternal mental health and psychiatric care in America. Then, the conversation turns to the sudden death of Hayden Panettiere at 36. Billy, who knew and interviewed Hayden throughout his years in entertainment television, asks Dr. Drew to examine her history through the lens of addiction: postpartum depression, alcohol and substance abuse, treatment and relapse, the loss of custody of her daughter, and her tumultuous relationship with Brian Hickerson. Dr. Drew explains why medical treatment and relationships can become two enormous relapse risks for someone in recovery and discusses why addiction requires sustained treatment rather than a short-term trip to rehab. The discussion expands to two other famous men and their very different experiences with sobriety: Charlie Sheen, now eight years sober, and Brad Pitt, who has recently spoken publicly about drinking again. Dr. Drew explains why he considers addiction a progressive disease and why someone who has achieved years of sobriety may still face enormous risk by attempting to drink again. Finally, Billy asks Dr. Drew what parents should be watching for in their own children — from pornography and social-media addiction to increasingly potent marijuana products and the mental-health consequences he says physicians are seeing. A candid, provocative conversation about mental illness, addiction, responsibility, recovery and the medical system with one of the most recognizable addiction specialists in America. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    What was Dolly Parton really like when the cameras were off? Dr. John Grossman joins Billy

    Following the death of Dolly Parton at age 80, Billy sits down for a deeply personal conversation with Dr. John Grossman, the legendary plastic surgeon who worked with Dolly for decades — and, more importantly, became her close friend over a relationship spanning nearly 50 years. Grossman first met Dolly when she was in her 30s. What began as a doctor-patient relationship developed into a friendship that gave him a rare glimpse of the woman behind one of the most recognizable personalities in entertainment. And according to Grossman, the Dolly Parton the world fell in love with was exactly who she really was. He remembers her extraordinary sense of humor, humility, honesty and Southern hospitality. He recalls visiting Dolly at her Beverly Hills home, where she would insist on making him coffee, and describes a woman who never behaved like a celebrity despite becoming one of the biggest stars in the world. Grossman also shares a remarkable story from 1995. Before discussing their doctor-patient relationship and cosmetic procedures in her book, Dolly made a special appointment with him for one reason: to ask his permission to use his name. After decades of treating famous patients, Grossman says no other celebrity had ever extended him that courtesy. The conversation also explores Dolly's fiercely protected privacy, her devotion to her husband of nearly 60 years, Carl Dean, and why Grossman continues to protect the confidential medical information entrusted to him during their decades together. Billy and Grossman reflect on Dolly's journey from a poor childhood in Tennessee to becoming the best-selling female country artist of all time — and why her death feels like the loss of something much bigger than a music legend. For Grossman, there simply aren't enough superlatives to describe the woman he knew. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    Lindsay Clancy: A Short Fuse And A Silly Little Flirt, and Goodbye Dolly

    The Lindsay Clancy trial is nearing closing arguments, but a controversy outside the testimony has suddenly become one of the biggest stories surrounding the courtroom. Billy Bush addresses the firestorm involving freelance journalist Brittany Romano, who was captured by the courtroom camera smiling and winking during the proceedings. After the brief clip spread online, Romano faced intense criticism and disturbing threats — while Vanity Fair announced it would no longer move forward with a potential essay from her and revoked her credentials. What many people reacting to the video didn't know: Romano grew up near Lindsay Clancy, knew the Musgrove family and has her own deeply personal connection to mental health. Billy reads Romano’s powerful response and explains why her experience with public shaming hits particularly close to home. Then, Kevin Reddington prepares for his final cross-examination as the prosecution calls its last rebuttal witness in the Lindsay Clancy case. Billy examines what may be one of Reddington’s most important arguments: if memories created during psychosis can be unreliable, can prosecutors rely upon Lindsay’s own recollections and alleged admissions about the deaths of her children? The prosecution’s Dr. Gregory Sadoff presents a formidable counterargument, challenging Lindsay’s account of the command hallucination she says told her to kill her children and herself. Sadoff points to inconsistencies, timing and the specific actions Lindsay allegedly took as evidence that she remained in control. With testimony ending and closing arguments next, the central question remains: Was Lindsay Clancy criminally responsible, or was she suffering from postpartum psychosis? Also today, new developments surrounding Hayden Panettiere and Brian Hickerson. Hayden’s representative responds publicly to speculation surrounding her death as Hot Mics continues pursuing questions about activity reported at Hayden’s Los Angeles residence after she died. Harry updates Billy on his attempts to get information to law enforcement and the public-records requests seeking additional records involving Hayden and Hickerson. And Billy remembers Dolly Parton, reflecting on her music, career, marriage and extraordinary impact on American culture. Hot Mics with Billy Bush — covering the trials, crime, entertainment and culture stories driving the conversation. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    The Clancy Prosecution Witness Commits A MORTAL SIN!

    The Lindsay Clancy murder trial is nearing its conclusion, and defense attorney Kevin Reddington is turning up the heat on the prosecution’s final expert witnesses. On today’s Hot Mics with Billy Bush, Billy breaks down Reddington’s explosive cross-examination of forensic psychologist Dr. Kirk Heilbrun, who testified about Lindsay’s alleged command hallucination, intrusive thoughts and the prosecution’s theory that she decided to take her children with her when she attempted suicide. Then the testimony veered into dangerous territory. After discussion of Lindsay’s Catholic faith, suicide as a “mortal sin” and whether she believed she and her children would be reunited in heaven, Reddington accused prosecutors of misconduct and moved for a mistrial. The judge denied the motion, but Billy examines whether the Commonwealth has created yet another serious problem for its case as closing arguments approach. Billy also speaks with Renee Kimball, organizer of “Lindsay’s Army of Love,” after hundreds of women dressed in pink gathered outside the Plymouth County Courthouse. Kimball explains why the movement says its mission isn’t to excuse the deaths of Lindsay’s three children, but to raise awareness about postpartum psychosis, maternal mental health and what supporters believe were systemic failures in Lindsay’s treatment. Then, a major update in our reporting on Hayden Panettiere. Following our exclusive interview with Hayden’s longtime neighbor Mia Terrazas, Hot Mics producer Harry Jacobs contacted the LAPD about unusual activity Mia reported at Hayden’s Los Angeles residence following her death — including an unfamiliar vehicle repeatedly appearing in Hayden’s parking space, someone apparently inside the apartment and Hayden’s Ring camera appearing damaged and covered with black electrical tape. Harry explains his conversation with LAPD, the information and photographs provided to police, and new questions surrounding packages addressed to Brian Hickerson continuing to arrive at Hayden’s residence. Mia has also contacted the building’s HOA president seeking information about who currently has authorized access to Hayden’s unit. There is no evidence at this point establishing who was inside Hayden’s apartment, who interfered with the Ring camera or whether any of the activity is connected to her death. Billy also reacts to new comments from Hayden’s mother, Lesley Vogel, about watching her daughter return to her relationship with Hickerson and the painful boundaries she ultimately felt forced to establish. Plus: the bizarre prostitution-sting arrest involving San Francisco 49ers owner Jed York — an undercover ad, a $140 proposed encounter and an arrest that produced one extremely expensive mugshot. Hot Mics with Billy Bush — breaking down the trials, crime, entertainment and culture stories everyone is talking about. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    Lindsay Clancy Attorney Kevin Reddington SHREDDED The Prosecution's Star Witness. The lates updates!

    The Lindsay Clancy murder trial is nearing its conclusion — and the battle over her state of mind has never been more intense. On today’s Hot Mics with Billy Bush, Billy breaks down the explosive cross-examination of prosecution forensic psychiatrist Dr. Avram Mack by Lindsay’s defense attorney, Kevin Reddington. Reddington challenges Mack over his experience treating women with postpartum mental illness, his evaluation of Lindsay years after the deaths of her children, and his conclusion that Lindsay suffered from major depressive disorder — not psychosis — and understood that what she was doing was wrong. Billy plays the highlights from an increasingly contentious confrontation between Reddington and Mack and explains why he believes the testimony may have done more damage than good to the Commonwealth’s case. But the larger question goes far beyond one expert witness: What happens when a mother repeatedly asks for help — and the mental-health system fails to recognize what is happening to her? Before the deaths of her three children, Lindsay experienced debilitating insomnia and intrusive thoughts. She visited emergency rooms, attended a day program, called a suicide hotline, entered a residential treatment program and repeatedly sought psychiatric help. Over the course of her treatment, she received numerous prescriptions involving 13 different medications. Yet no one diagnosed her with postpartum psychosis. As closing arguments approach, Billy examines the difficult question at the center of the trial: Should Lindsay Clancy be treated as an ordinary murderer, or was she suffering from a catastrophic mental illness that left her incapable of criminal responsibility? Billy also revisits his memorable 2005 interview with Tom Cruise over psychiatry and psychotropic medication, including Cruise’s controversial criticism of Brooke Shields after she publicly discussed using Paxil to treat postpartum depression. Finally, Billy delivers his own closing argument in the Lindsay Clancy case — and explains why he believes this tragedy represents not only the deaths of three children, but a profound failure of America’s mental-health system.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    EXCLUSIVE: Hayden Panettiere's Roommate Chats With Billy Bush

    One week after Hayden Panettiere was found unresponsive in a Greenville, South Carolina Airbnb, a woman who lived just feet away from her for years is speaking out. Mia Terrazas, Hayden’s longtime Hollywood neighbor, joins Billy Bush exclusively to describe what she says she witnessed during Hayden’s turbulent relationship with Brian Hickerson. Mia remembers two very different versions of Hayden. Without Hickerson around, she says Hayden was happy, funny and “alive.” With him, she appeared subdued and noticeably different. Mia describes frequently hearing yelling, screaming and loud noises coming from Hayden’s apartment. She says she witnessed Hayden being removed from the building on a gurney twice and became so fearful of Hickerson herself that she took additional precautions whenever she encountered him around the property. Billy also traces Hickerson’s history of arrests and domestic violence cases involving Hayden, including incidents in Los Angeles and Wyoming, the eight-count criminal case filed against him in 2020 and the plea agreement that ultimately resulted in jail, probation, domestic violence classes and a protective order. Just three days before Hayden’s death, Hickerson was also attempting to have his criminal record expunged — a request prosecutors opposed. Then Mia describes something she discovered at Hayden’s Hollywood residence after her death: an unfamiliar vehicle in Hayden’s parking space, someone apparently inside the apartment, and damage to Hayden’s Ring camera, which Mia says someone had attempted to pull from the wall before covering its camera and speaker with black tape. Mia does not know who was inside the apartment or who interfered with the camera, and Hayden’s exact cause of death has not yet been publicly established. Her suspicions about the circumstances surrounding Hayden’s death remain her own. But what Mia says she personally witnessed during the years she lived next door offers a disturbing new look inside Hayden Panettiere’s life with Brian Hickerson — and the relationship that those around her desperately hoped she would finally escape. An exclusive Hot Mics with Billy Bush interview. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    Who Killed John O'Keefe--And Will We Ever Know? Author of Blizzard of Lies Joins Billy

    The Karen Read trials may be over, but the central question remains: What really happened to Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe? Billy Bush sits down with veteran investigative journalist and bestselling author Dave Wedge, whose new book Blizzard of Lies takes a deep look inside the death of John O’Keefe, the prosecution of Karen Read, and an investigation plagued by mistakes, conflicts, questionable evidence and allegations of corruption. Wedge, a former Boston Herald investigative reporter who lives near Canton, Massachusetts, explains why he believes this became one of the most deeply flawed law-enforcement investigations he has ever covered — while stopping short of claiming he knows who killed O’Keefe. They examine the evidence that continues to fuel questions about the case: the failure to search the home at 34 Fairview Road, blood collected in red Solo cups, the handling of the crime scene during a blizzard, Michael Proctor's explosive text messages, the disputed injuries to O’Keefe's arm, the medical evidence surrounding the alleged vehicle strike, and the relationships connecting people involved in the investigation. Wedge also takes Billy inside the O’Keefe family and the complicated relationship between John O’Keefe and Karen Read — including details he uncovered while researching the book. And then there is the phenomenon that changed everything: social media. Wedge discusses the enormous influence of Aidan “Turtleboy” Kearney and the Free Karen Read movement, and asks whether the case has created a new playbook in which social media campaigns can influence public opinion — and potentially the environment surrounding a criminal trial. Karen Read was acquitted, but John O’Keefe is still dead. His family still wants answers. And more than four years later, the question at the center of Blizzard of Lies remains unresolved. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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