The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast

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🏆 #1 podcast in the Top 100 Health Tech All-time charts Join us every Monday for conversations with the biggest names in digital health. Hosted by digital health veterans Halle Tecco, Michael Esquivel, and Steve Kraus. Learn more and submit your ideas for the show at the Heart of Healthcare website.

  1. 📣 Digital Health Download: November 2025

    4 DAYS AGO

    📣 Digital Health Download: November 2025

    Does it feel like we packed in a decade of progress this year in digital health? We think so.  Today, Halle and Steve break down the biggest digital health stories of the moment, from funding trends to AI rivalries and new rules shaping the future of care. We cover: 💸 What non-AI healthcare startups should do in today’s AI-obsessed investor market 🧠 Is there room for more than one winner in clinical decision support tools? ⚖️ California’s new chatbot law 🩺 Why UnitedHealthcare just paid $9B to AARP despite Medicare Advantage headwinds 🌡️ Hims’ expansion into menopause care and what it means for vertical startups 🤖 How Mass General Brigham is using AI to ease doctor shortages — Show notes: The Future of Healthtech 2025 (SVB)2025: The State of AI in Healthcare (Menlo Ventures)Q3 2025 market overview: Signals out of sync (Rock Health)OpenEvidence scores $200M, 3 months after series B, boosting valuation to $6B (Fierce Healthcare)Wolters Kluwer’s new UpToDate Expert AI (Wolters Kluwer)New California ‘Companion Chatbot’ Law Imposes Disclosure, Safety Protocol and Annual Reporting Requirements (Skadden)UnitedHealth Group, AARP Extend Medicare Partnership Beyond 2025 (Forbes)Hims & Hers to Offer Treatments for Menopause (WSJ)One Mass. health system is turning to AI to ease shortage of primary care doctors. Some don’t like it (STAT)— 🙏 If you're enjoying the show, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review! — 📍 Connect with us: Heart of Healthcare website Youtube LinkedIn Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    40 min
  2. UpToDate’s AI Glow Up | Wolters Kluwer Health VP BD & Strategy Dr. Holly Urban

    27 OCT

    UpToDate’s AI Glow Up | Wolters Kluwer Health VP BD & Strategy Dr. Holly Urban

    Over 3 million clinicians around the world depend on UpToDate to guide patient care, and now the gold standard in clinical decision support is integrating generative AI. But in a world where AI models often hallucinate, how do you build something that doctors can actually trust? In this episode, Halle talks with Dr. Holly Urban, VP of Business Development and Strategy at Wolters Kluwer Health, about UpToDate Expert AI, a new tool trained exclusively on UpToDate’s physician-authored content — not the open internet — and what it means for the future of medicine. We cover: 🤖 Why grounding AI in verified medical data matters for accuracy and trust 💬 How clinicians are using AI at the point of care today, and where they’re facing fatigue 📚 How medical education will evolve when memorization matters less than critical thinking 💡 Why patient-facing AI tools could help close the information gap between doctors and patients 🚨 The biggest risks Holly sees ahead for AI in healthcare — About our guest:  Holly Urban, MD, MBA has extensive experience in healthcare technology and believes in the power of evidence-based content to transform EHRs beyond transactional systems into tools that allow clinicians to provide improved patient outcomes. After practicing as a primary care pediatrician, Dr. Urban worked for several EHR technology and evidence-based content companies, and has served in healthcare IT leadership roles for over fifteen years. Before joining Wolters Kluwer Health, she served as CMIO at Oracle Cerner, Director of Product Management at MCG Health, and VP of Product Management at McKesson Horizon Clinicals. — Show Notes: AI in UpToDate: New Generative solutions for Medical ProfessionalsAI hallucinates more frequently as it gets more advanced — is there any way to stop it from happening, and should we even try? (LiveScience)Technology and healthcare costs (Annals of Pediatric Cardiology)— 📍 Connect with us: Heart of Healthcare website LinkedIn Instagram TikTok  YouTube See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    32 min
  3. Inside the Rise of AI Agents | Sierra Co-founder Clay Bavor

    20 OCT

    Inside the Rise of AI Agents | Sierra Co-founder Clay Bavor

    Most people spend over 30 hours a year dealing with customer service—on hold, repeating account numbers, and navigating endless phone trees. But what if AI could fix that without losing the human touch? Clay Bavor, co-founder of Sierra (now valued at $10B) and former VP at Google, joins us to explore how AI agents are reshaping how companies interact with customers and what that means for the most complex service industry in the world: healthcare. We cover: 🧠 The difference between horizontal and. vertical AI solutions ⚙️ If systems of action will take over systems of record (like Epic) in enterprise AI 🫀 How empathy, tone, and even “voice sommeliers” help AI sound more human 📉 The risks of AI job displacement (and the new roles emerging in its wake) 🚀 Clay’s take on staying grounded as a unicorn entrepreneur when hype runs high in Silicon Valley — About our guest:  Clay Bavor is a co-founder of Sierra, which helps businesses build better, more human customer experiences with AI. A visionary product leader and technologist, Clay spent 18 years at Google, where he spearheaded some of the company’s most innovative efforts. As head of Google Labs, he led teams working on forward-looking projects, including augmented and virtual reality, Project Starline, and Google Lens. Earlier, Clay oversaw the product and design teams for Gmail, Google Docs, Google Drive, and Google Apps for Enterprise (now Workspace), shaping tools used by billions worldwide. He also contributed to foundational Google products, including Search and advertising technologies. — 🙏 If you're enjoying the show, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review! — 📍 Connect with us: Heart of Healthcare website TikTok (NEW!) LinkedIn Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    43 min
  4. Build, Scale, Repeat | Serial Founder Tom X. Lee

    13 OCT

    Build, Scale, Repeat | Serial Founder Tom X. Lee

    This milestone 200th(!!!) episode of The Heart of Healthcare Podcast features none other than Dr. Tom X. Lee, the serial physician-founder behind Epocrates (acquired for $293M), One Medical (acquired by Amazon for $3.9B), and now Galileo, a tech-enabled medical group aiming to rewire care delivery from the ground up. We cover: 🧠 Why most doctors aren’t wired for management (and what traits he thinks translate to startup success) 📉 How medical education is falling behind the pace of change in care delivery 💸 Why healthcare’s biggest barrier is economics, not culture 🏥 What Galileo is doing differently to re-engineer care on the backend 📈 What founders need to understand about building for exit vs. impact About our guest:  Tom is the CEO and visionary behind Galileo. Prior to Galileo, Tom helped build One Medical into the leading independent primary care system in the country, and previously helped launch Epocrates, the #1 mobile app used by clinicians at the point of care. Tom is a board-certified internist who completed training at Harvard’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital. He received his BS from Yale University, his MD from the University of Washington School of Medicine, and his MBA from Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business. — 🥳 To celebrate this milestone of 200 episodes, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review! — 📍 Connect with us: Heart of Healthcare website LinkedIn Instagram TikTok  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    32 min
  5. Can We Make Cancer Nonlethal? | Reed Jobs & Matt Bettonville of Yosemite

    29 SEPT

    Can We Make Cancer Nonlethal? | Reed Jobs & Matt Bettonville of Yosemite

    Cancer drugs cost more than ever, yet survival benefits are often modest—and in some cases, patients can’t even access the care that already exists.  After losing his father, Steve Jobs, to pancreatic cancer, Reed Jobs committed himself to making this the last generation that loses parents to the disease. Reed now leads Yosemite, a venture fund spun out of Emerson Collective in 2023, alongside Investor Matt Bettonville. Yosemite pairs life sciences and digital health investments with a grantmaking model to accelerate cancer research and ensure breakthroughs actually reach patients. We cover: 📉 The tension between drug pricing, patient access, and real-world value 🩺 Digital interventions that have outperformed cancer drugs in survival outcomes 🧪 Why phase 3 clinical trials are so costly, and how synthetic control arms could change that 🧬 The promise and limits of early detection—from liquid biopsies to at-home pap smears 🌍 The global race for healthcare innovation and why the U.S. can’t afford to fall behind About our guests: Reed Jobs is an Investor at Yosemite and manages Yosemite. Yosemite works exclusively in the oncology space, using flexible capital to advance science with the goal of making cancer non-lethal in our lifetime. Over the years, Reed has supported hundreds of researchers and invested in dozens of therapeutic, diagnostic and digital health companies across the U.S. and Europe. Before the launch of Yosemite, Reed served as the Managing Director of Health at Emerson Collective. He serves on the board of directors at Conservation International, Harvard Medical School, PICI, Stanford Medicine and Waverley Street Foundation.  Matt Bettonville is an Investor at Yosemite where he leads the team’s investment efforts in digital health and healthcare delivery. He previously worked on Emerson Collective’s Count Me In non-profit partnership with the Broad Institute. Matt started his career working on user interface software engineering at Apple, where he was on the Mac team and a part of the AirPods product team. He holds a B.S. in Computer Science from Stanford University with a focus in Human-Computer Interaction. Matt serves on the board of directors at Atropos, Maia Oncology, Turquoise Health, Count Me In and Getlabs. He serves as a board observer at Proximie.  — 🙏Thank you to our show sponsor, LookDeep. LookDeep pioneers AI that can see, hear, and respond with care to help hospitals be Ever Present for Every Patient. Learn more at lookdeep.ai/aimee. — 📍 Connect with us: Heart of Healthcare website LinkedIn Instagram TikTok  If you're enjoying the show, would you please leave us a review? See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    31 min
  6. Lessons From 5,000 Hours of Startup Pitches |  EIC of Second Opinion Christina Farr

    25 SEPT

    Lessons From 5,000 Hours of Startup Pitches | EIC of Second Opinion Christina Farr

    Some founders win support because of their product, others because of their story. In healthcare, where trust is everything, the ability to tell a compelling and authentic narrative can make or break a company. On this episode, Halle talks with longtime friend and colleague Christina Farr—reporter turned investor and now author of The Storyteller’s Advantage. Chrissy has spent thousands of hours hearing startup pitches, advising founders, and studying what makes certain stories resonate while others fall flat. She shares insights from her years as a journalist and investor, and lessons from her new book on how narrative power shapes companies and industries. We cover: 📝 The three types of founder stories and why “personal experience” dominates in healthcare 📉 Why failure stories are scarce in healthcare—and how that holds founders back 🏆 The psychology of the underdog and how startups can use it to their advantage 📰 The double-edged sword of media attention, especially for women leaders 🎤 Why founder-led communications matter more than ever in an era of spammy PR pitches About our guest: Christina Farr is an editor-in-chief of the health-tech newsletter Second Opinion, which has 40,000 subscribers. She advises startups as a national advisor with Manatt, and she's a GP with the fund Scrub Capital. Prior to that, she worked as an investor at OMERS Ventures and a journalist with CNBC, Fast Company, and Reuters News. Her debut book "The Storyteller's Advantage" is now available. She was born and raised in London, U.K., and resides in New York with her husband and two children.  — If you're enjoying the show, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review! — 📍 Connect with us: Heart of Healthcare website LinkedIn Instagram TikTok  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    44 min
  7. Can Wearables Move from Wellness to Medicine? | ŌURA CEO Tom Hale

    22 SEPT

    Can Wearables Move from Wellness to Medicine? | ŌURA CEO Tom Hale

    Thanks to improved accuracy and new form factors, wearables have evolved from novelty step counters to tools that can predict illness, nudge healthier behaviors, and even influence alcohol consumption. But can they really bridge the gap between consumer wellness and enterprise healthcare? In this episode, ŌURA CEO Tom Hale discusses the lessons his team has learned from developing one of the most widely used health-tracking devices. We explore what draws people to wearables, what sustains their engagement, and how these tools may be shaping behavior and healthcare itself.  We cover: 🕰️ The past, present, and future of wearables 🩺 What it takes to build trust with users, clinicians, and payers 🍷 The number one thing people do differently after wearing an Oura ring 🔑 Unlocking behavior change, and which habits are most malleable 🏥 Why payers and health systems are beginning to integrate wearables into care models — About our guest: Tom Hale is the Chief Executive Officer at ŌURA and a member of its board. As the CEO he sets the company’s business strategy and vision to make health a daily practice for members all over the world. He has over 30 years of experience across the technology and consumer product industry. Before joining ŌURA, Hale was president of Momentive where he drove B2B strategy and led product growth. During his time there he was instrumental in taking the company public in 2018, leading the team in key acquisitions, and driving the evolution and rebranding of the company into a multiple SAAS business. Previously, he held leadership roles at HomeAway and Linden Lab as the Chief Operating Officer and Chief Product Officer, respectively, and held executive roles at Macromedia and Adobe. Hale has a Bachelor of Arts from Harvard University and sits on the boards of Cars.com, RocketReach, and NoiseAware. — If you're enjoying the show, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review! — 📍 Connect with us: Heart of Healthcare website LinkedIn Instagram TikTok  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    43 min

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🏆 #1 podcast in the Top 100 Health Tech All-time charts Join us every Monday for conversations with the biggest names in digital health. Hosted by digital health veterans Halle Tecco, Michael Esquivel, and Steve Kraus. Learn more and submit your ideas for the show at the Heart of Healthcare website.

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