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A podcast where global leaders from the Harvard Business School Owner/President Management (OPM) community join in a personal capacity and share the real decisions, failures, and mental models behind building enduring companies. This podcast is independent and not affiliated with Harvard Business School.

  1. Awareness: The First Step to Wisdom - Pàdraig O Céidigh

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    Awareness: The First Step to Wisdom - Pàdraig O Céidigh

    Send us Fan Mail When you compete on a global stage for Entrepreneur of the Year and lose to Narayana Murthy, you don’t just come back with a trophy or a ranking - you come back with perspective. That experience shaped how Pàdraig O Céidigh thinks about entrepreneurship, success, and life. What struck him most was not business scale or wealth, but Murthy’s humility, spirituality, discipline, and belief in helping other people grow. It raised a bigger question: What actually makes a great entrepreneur   and more importantly, what makes a great life? This conversation is less about building companies and more about building a life of purpose, awareness, resilience, and good decisions. Pàdraig shares how he grew up in a working-class family where two values shaped everything he later became: hard work and integrity. Over time he became an accountant, lawyer, airline founder, entrepreneur of the year, senator, professor, and author - but he emphasizes that titles and success are not the most important things. The real lessons came from failure, setbacks, stress, betrayal, and difficult decisions. One of his strongest beliefs is that the biggest waste of time in life is feeling sorry for yourself. Entrepreneurs fall off the horse many times - the difference is that they get back on again. One idea that deeply influenced him came from Harvard Business School, where a professor asked a question he never forgot:  “What is the world with you versus the world without you?” He believes this is not just a business strategy question - it is a life question. Each person should try to leave the world better than they found it. The conversation then moves into wisdom and decision-making. After running an airline for 26 years with hundreds of flights per week and no accidents, he realized something important: the quality of your life is largely the quality of your decisions. This realization eventually led him to write The Purposeful Decision Maker. Another major theme is the difference between success and happiness. Many successful people are not happy, and many happy people are not successful by society’s definition. Happiness, he argues, comes from gratitude, contentment, awareness, and not comparing yourself to others. He also shares one of the hardest lessons of his life: business problems rarely broke him — people he trusted who betrayed him caused the most stress and nearly cost him his life. If he could advise his younger self, he would learn earlier how to recognize difficult people and avoid them. Overall, this conversation is really about awareness, resilience, decision-making, success vs happiness, and living a purposeful life - not just building businesses, but building a meaningful life. Here are the Top 10 Takeaways from the conversation: Losing to great people teaches you more than winning. Hard work and integrity are long-term advantages. Failure is inevitable - self-pity is optional. The most important education is understanding yourself. Ask yourself: What is the world with me versus the world without me? Decision-making is one of the most important skills in life. Success and happiness are not the same thing. Gratitude and contentment matter more than comparison. People problems are often harder than business problems. Awareness is the foundation of wisdom.  Books: Give and Take Snakes in Suits

    35 min
  2. CEOs Don’t Have All the Answers: Leading a 750-Employee Autism Company Through Uncertainty - Ronit Molko

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    CEOs Don’t Have All the Answers: Leading a 750-Employee Autism Company Through Uncertainty - Ronit Molko

    Send us Fan Mail Ronit Molko shares her journey from growing up in South Africa during apartheid to building and scaling a national autism services company in the United States. After moving to the U.S. to study psychology and specializing in autism, she started Autism Spectrum Therapies in 2000, initially as a small consulting practice that eventually grew into a large organization with hundreds of employees across multiple states. The journey was far from easy. The company relied heavily on funding from the state of California, which meant delayed budgets, payment delays, funding cuts, and constant uncertainty. At one point, the company went nearly a year without getting paid and had to rely on loans and lines of credit just to make payroll. Despite these challenges, Ronit continued to grow the company, expand into new states, diversify payers, and eventually build a full management team so the business could operate independently of her. One of the most important turning points in her leadership journey came when she decided to be fully transparent with her employees about the financial and operational challenges the company was facing. Instead of pretending to have all the answers, she openly told her team that she did not always know what the right decision was and that sometimes she changed her mind when new information came in. That moment of vulnerable leadership transformed the company culture and created deep loyalty and alignment across the organization. Ronit eventually sold the company in 2014 to a private equity-backed platform, stayed involved for a period after the sale, and later worked in private equity advisory and as CEO of another PE-backed autism services company. Today, she is focused on the future of behavioral health, particularly the role technology and AI may play in improving outcomes and access to care. Throughout the conversation, her story highlights entrepreneurship in healthcare, leadership during uncertainty, the importance of culture, and the reality that even CEOs running large organizations often do not have all the answers - they just keep making the best decisions they can with the information they have. Here are the Top 10 Takeaways from the conversation: 1. Entrepreneurship often starts by solving a problem others don’t yet see 2. Timing matters in business 3. Single-customer or single-payer businesses are very risky 4. Cash flow problems, not profitability, kill businesses 5. Culture can be a company’s biggest competitive advantage 6. Vulnerable leadership builds trust 7. Leaders often change their decisions because they get new information 8. Founders must eventually build companies that can run without them 9. Selling a company is emotionally and operationally exhausting 10. Sometimes you don’t sell at the perfect time — you sell when life, partners, and markets force the decision Books: Revenge of the Tipping PointThe Primes

    31 min
  3. Public Markets, Real Estate, Venture, and Gold: A Portfolio Strategy - Tiz Gambacorta

    26 MAR

    Public Markets, Real Estate, Venture, and Gold: A Portfolio Strategy - Tiz Gambacorta

    Send us Fan Mail Tiz Gambacorta shares his journey from investment banking and institutional fund management into entrepreneurship and later venture investing. He explains why he left a stable finance career in search of greater fulfillment, built a financial media/distribution platform, and eventually transitioned from operator to investor as the business matured. Tiz discusses how he thinks about portfolio construction, emphasizing risk management, diversification, liquidity, and tax efficiency over chasing maximum returns. He also shares why he is bullish on defense and AI, especially the shift in warfare toward drones, anti-drone systems, and jamming technologies. Beyond investing, he reflects on lessons from EO and HBS OPM, the importance of surrounding yourself with strong peers, and how success should ultimately be measured not just financially, but by fulfillment, family, presence, and living boldly. Here are the Top 10 Takeaways from the conversation: Fulfillment matters more than prestige. Tiz left a high-status finance career because it no longer felt meaningful, despite stability and strong compensation. Operator-to-investor is often a maturity shift. He transitioned when he realized he was strong at taking a business from zero to traction, but others were better at scaling it. His edge comes from speaking both languages. With experience as both a finance professional and founder, he can relate to numbers, strategy, and operator realities. Risk comes before return. His investing philosophy starts with preserving capital, then building for upside through diversification and disciplined allocation. A strong portfolio blends liquidity, stability, and upside. He favors public equities/ETFs for liquidity, real estate for stability and income, selective venture/private equity for outsized returns, and gold as an inflation hedge. Taxes are one of the most overlooked parts of investing. He stresses that optimizing after-tax returns can matter as much as investment selection itself. Compounding wins. Unless current income is needed, he prefers reinvesting dividends and letting capital accumulate over time. Defense is being reshaped by cheaper, scalable technologies. The future is shifting from a few expensive machines to large numbers of lower-cost drones and counter-drone systems. EO’s biggest value is learning through shared experience. For Tiz, EO provides community, perspective, and a trusted forum where leaders can learn without having to make every mistake themselves. Success should become more personal with time. His deeper life lesson is to prioritize family, friends, presence, and meaningful experiences — and to pursue bold missions earlier rather than living with regret. Books: The Top Five Regrets of the DyingHow to Win Friends and Influence People

    29 min
  4. A Father’s Playbook: 15 Life Lessons I Want My Daughters to Know - Rusty Russell

    24 MAR

    A Father’s Playbook: 15 Life Lessons I Want My Daughters to Know - Rusty Russell

    Send us Fan Mail This episode centers less on business success and more on legacy, urgency, and documenting life lessons for the next generation. Rusty Russell shares his journey from growing up on a farm in rural Australia, leaving school early, becoming a diesel mechanic, traveling and working across the world, and eventually building Double R from a one-man service truck into a multi-location company with around 250 employees. Travel, discomfort, learning languages, and working in remote environments shaped his independence and risk tolerance, which later helped him become an entrepreneur. However, the most defining turning point in his life was not business - it was personal tragedy. Following the unexpected passing of his brother in an accident, it forced deep introspection about life, business, family, and legacy. The event reinforced something he already believed but had not fully acted on: A business should not depend on one person, and life should not be postponed. This period made him realize three important things: Life is fragile and unpredictable. Experiences and time with family matter more than business growth alone. If something happened to him, his daughters might never fully understand what he had learned about life, money, risk, happiness, and decision-making. That realization led him to write a book for his daughters called “Freedom of Choice”, where he documented his life principles, lessons, mistakes, and beliefs - essentially creating a manual for how to think about life rather than what to do in life. He describes the book as an insurance policy for his daughters - not financial insurance, but intellectual and philosophical insurance. A way for them to still learn from him even if he wasn’t around one day. The conversation ultimately becomes less about entrepreneurship and more about designing a life with freedom of choice. Rusty defines a wise person not by age or intelligence, but by the number of experiences they have deliberately put themselves through and the lessons they extracted from them. In the end, his message is simple: Build a life, not just a business - and pass your lessons on before it’s too late. From the conversation, his actual principles include things like: You’re already an ovarian lottery winner (gratitude)You are who you hang out with Get out of your comfort zone Take a gap year / travel Read books Build a business that doesn’t rely on you Systems and culture matter Learn from biographies Think like an owner (cashflow quadrant) Experience builds wisdom Family and time matter Take risks when needed Diversify business risk Learn from hardship and loss Keep growing - never “arrive”Books: Rich Dad Poor DadThe E-MythOnly Two Seats LeftGritBenjamin Franklin: An American LifeSteve JobsElon Musk

    39 min
  5. Breaking the ‘Son Heir’ Myth in Business - Nafeesa Moloobhoy

    17 MAR

    Breaking the ‘Son Heir’ Myth in Business - Nafeesa Moloobhoy

    Send a text Being a woman raised in a traditional family, married young, without completing college or having any work experience and then stepping in to lead a 96-year-old legacy business in the male-dominated shipping industry is an extraordinary challenge. Layer onto that the responsibilities of motherhood, running a household, and eventually navigating succession without a clear heir, and the scale of Nafeesa Moloobhoy’s journey becomes clear. She entered business out of necessity, not ambition. When her husband’s health declined, she had to decide whether to shut down a century-old company or attempt to run it herself. Despite having no formal training and facing widespread skepticism, she chose to lead. Over time, she learned on the job, built credibility, and transformed herself from being dismissed to becoming one of the most formidable players in her space. Her story also highlights the often-invisible cost of leadership for women. She speaks candidly about the constant juggling between professional responsibilities and family obligations, and the sacrifices that come with it. Yet, these very pressures shaped her resilience and perspective. Today, her focus has shifted from building to sustaining. She is actively transitioning the company from a family-run setup to a professionally managed organization, ensuring continuity beyond her tenure. Her leadership philosophy has evolved significantly from proving herself, to building resilience, to valuing people, and finally to embracing a more spiritual, purpose-driven approach. Leadership, for her now, is about shared success, long-term impact, and leaving at the right time. Here are the Top 10 Takeaways from the conversation: Leadership can emerge from necessity, not planning. She became CEO due to circumstance, not preparation.Lack of credentials does not limit capability. She built success without a degree or prior experience.Legacy can anchor difficult decisions. She chose preservation over shutting down the business.Resilience defines long-term success. She consistently bounced back stronger from adversity.Being underestimated can fuel performance. Skepticism became a source of motivation.Women leaders carry compounded responsibilities. Balancing career and family remains a significant challenge.Leadership evolves through stages. From IQ → adversity → emotional → spiritual quotient.People-first cultures create durability. Trust and emotional connection drive retention and growth.Succession must be intentional. She is professionalizing the company for continuity.Success is more than financial outcomes. It includes integrity, humility, and being a good human being. Books:  The Singapore Story From Third World to First

    39 min
  6. The 20-Year Rule for Entrepreneurs: Happiness and Long-Term Selfishness - Vivek Bhargava

    16 MAR

    The 20-Year Rule for Entrepreneurs: Happiness and Long-Term Selfishness - Vivek Bhargava

    Send us Fan Mail Vivek Bhargava's philosophy is that the best entrepreneurial life is built on integrity, optimism, learning, and continuous stretching with happiness as the foundation, not the reward. Vivek is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and author of Happiness is a Muscle. He reflects on his journey from joining his family’s business to building Communicate2, one of India’s leading digital performance agencies, selling it to Dentsu, and later launching Consumer.ai. He also shares hard-earned lessons on bootstrapping, surviving early market timing mistakes, specializing to win, investing in people, and building with integrity. Across business and life, his worldview is anchored in growth: happiness comes from challenge, learning, and stretching beyond one’s current limits. For him, fulfillment comes not from comfort or status, but from continued evolution. Here are the Top 10 Takeaways from the conversation: Happiness comes from growth, not stagnation. One of Vivek’s strongest ideas is that happiness is found in the growth phase of life. He left a successful senior role because he no longer felt stretched or challenged.Don’t build a company to sell it. Build a great company. His view is that exits are outcomes, not goals. Founders who obsess over selling often lose the plot; those who focus on building something excellent create the conditions for optionality.Choose industries that don’t cap your ambition. He left the family’s musical instruments business because he felt the industry’s ceiling was too low. He wanted any limit on scale to come from his own execution, not the market size.Being early can look like being wrong. Communicate2 started in 1997, before India was really ready for digital marketing. That early struggle taught him resilience and conviction.Specialization can be a breakout strategy. A major turning point came when the business focused on search marketing and became the best in that niche. Mastery in one important area created scale.Integrity is not optional—it is strategic. Vivek repeatedly emphasizes that integrity helps you sleep well, think clearly, and build long-term trust. He sees it as central both to happiness and to durable success.Take care of employees and customers first. His metaphor is powerful: if you are the rope between your team and your customers, and both sides rise, you rise too. Self-focused leadership eventually gets pulled down.Training people is a force multiplier. He sees developing talent as one of his proudest contributions. Great training not only helps the company, it creates alumni who go on to build successful careers elsewhere.Founders need long-term thinking and “long-term selfishness.” By this he means making choices that truly serve your long-run happiness and success, instead of optimizing for short-term applause, money, or convenience.Real mastery requires stretching, not just repetition. He expands on the “10,000 hours” idea by saying growth only happens when those hours are spent pushing beyond your comfort zone. Repetition alone is not enough.Books: Good to GreatBuilt to LastThe Almanack of Naval RavikantYour Brain at WorkReality TransurfingHappiness Is a Muscle

    33 min
  7. How KPIs, KRAs, and Leadership Systems Scaled Aquilaw to 150 People - Sucharita Basu

    10 MAR

    How KPIs, KRAs, and Leadership Systems Scaled Aquilaw to 150 People - Sucharita Basu

    Send us Fan Mail Sucharita Basu, Managing Partner of Aquilaw, speaks about how leadership systems, KPIs, and lessons from the Harvard Business School OPM program helped her scale a modern law firm from two founders to around 150 professionals across multiple cities. After nearly two decades in practice, Sucharita and her husband Sanjay launched Aquilaw to fill a gap in the market - a modern, mid-tier law firm that combined professional structure with entrepreneurial agility. Their goal was to build a system-driven organization, not a personality-driven practice. A turning point came a few years into building the firm. Despite strong client work, they were losing talented people. The problem was not capability but lack of structured feedback and leadership systems. This led Sucharita to rethink how the firm operated internally. Working with HR leaders and external advisors, Aquilaw introduced structured KPIs (Key Performance Indicators) and KRAs (Key Result Areas). These metrics created clarity, accountability, and growth pathways for lawyers at different levels. Importantly, performance was measured not only by billable work but also by leadership behaviors and contributions to the firm’s long-term development. Key metrics included quality and timeliness of legal work, mentoring and team building, ability to attract and retain talent, thought leadership through writing and speaking, brand building, business development, and financial targets. By measuring both professional excellence and organizational contribution, Aquilaw transitioned from an informal practice to a scalable leadership model. Sucharita’s own role evolved as well. Early on she was heavily involved in execution and transactions. As the firm grew, her focus shifted toward strategy, operations, and institutional leadership, while remaining closely connected to teams and clients. She also engages actively with industry bodies like the CII, contributing to discussions on ease of doing business. Throughout the conversation, Sucharita connects these experiences with insights from the Harvard Business School OPM program, including leadership lessons from case studies such as Rob Parsons, Toyota’s operational excellence, and Oberoi’s customer service philosophy. These frameworks reinforced the importance of structured feedback, disciplined operations, and leadership systems that allow organizations and people to scale. Her core philosophy: build institutions where people are evaluated not only for their individual output but for how they strengthen the organization. Here are the Top 10 Takeaways from the conversation: Professional services firms must run on systems, not personalities.KPIs and KRAs bring clarity and accountability to growing organizations.Measure both performance and institution-building.Structured feedback systems are essential for retaining talent.Leaders must transition from execution to designing systems.Thought leadership (speaking, writing, visibility) is a key leadership KPI.Harvard case studies offer practical leadership frameworks.Operational discipline matters even in knowledge industries like law.Scaling requires developing leaders, not just skilled professionals.Institutions grow sustainably when culture, metrics, and leadership align. Books:  30 Women in Power: Their Voices, Their StoriesMy Life in Full: Work, Family, and Our Future

    32 min
  8. Family Constitutions: A Key to Multi-Generational Business Continuity — Fernando Fey

    6 MAR

    Family Constitutions: A Key to Multi-Generational Business Continuity — Fernando Fey

    Send us Fan Mail One of the strongest realizations from this conversation is the importance of a family constitution in sustaining a multi-generational business. Many family companies assume alignment will naturally exist because of shared blood and history, but Fernando’s experience shows the opposite—alignment has to be designed intentionally. Their family constitution acts as a living document that defines rules, expectations, values, and even behavioral norms for the family. It is reviewed every year by a family board where members openly discuss issues like communication, next-generation development, and family behavior that could impact the company’s reputation. This system prevents misunderstandings and ensures the business remains stable as the family grows. Another realization is how governance structures protect relationships. Alongside the constitution, the family created shareholder agreements, advisory boards, and structured meetings. These mechanisms help separate roles - family member, shareholder, and executive - which are often blurred in family businesses. By clarifying these boundaries early, they reduce emotional conflicts that often destroy otherwise successful family companies. A further insight is the shift from an employee mindset to an owner mindset. Fernando initially approached the business operationally, focusing on execution and management tasks. Through experiences like Harvard’s OPM program, he began thinking more like an entrepreneur and shareholder - questioning strategic choices, evaluating long-term optionality, and understanding the broader value of the enterprise. The conversation also highlights how family businesses often prioritize longevity over short-term financial optimization. Unlike purely investor-driven companies, decisions sometimes consider employees, the community, and the founders’ legacy. This creates a deeper cultural commitment but also requires discipline to remain competitive. Finally, a deeper realization is that building an enduring company is less about bold strategy and more about systems and values. Strong governance, aligned family expectations, and thoughtful leadership development create the stability required for businesses to last across generations. Here are the Top 10 Takeaways from the conversation: A family constitution is critical for longevity. It defines rules, expectations, and shared values across generations.Governance protects family relationships. Advisory boards, shareholder agreements, and structured meetings reduce conflict.Separate roles clearly. Being a family member, shareholder, and executive are different responsibilities.Update governance regularly. Reviewing family protocols yearly keeps them relevant as the family evolves.Think like an owner, not just an operator. Strategic thinking expands when leaders shift from employee mindset to ownership mindset.Family businesses often optimize for longevity and legacy, not just financial returns.Shared back-office systems improve efficiency across multiple business units.Role clarity empowers employees. Clear job descriptions and expectations enable autonomy and accountability.Develop leaders internally. Investing in people allows long-term cultural continuity and trust.Enduring companies are built on systems and values, not just strategy or market opportunities.Books:  The Leadership PipelineThe Courage to Be Disliked

    28 min
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A podcast where global leaders from the Harvard Business School Owner/President Management (OPM) community join in a personal capacity and share the real decisions, failures, and mental models behind building enduring companies. This podcast is independent and not affiliated with Harvard Business School.

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    Sohin Shah
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    2025 - 2026
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