Our Lives With Bots

Our Lives With Bots

This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us or stream on your preferred platform at ⁠⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠⁠.

  1. HACE 2 DÍAS

    THE AI BABY IS COMING (with ads, but first, AI will leak all your child's data, among other things)

    Welcome to episode 2 for Series X - “What’s the (AI) Hype?” - where we discuss what’s been happening in the world of artificial intelligence in the past few weeks. The whole mark of this series is that there is no thread, just a string of hype debated by two psychologists/AI ethicists who love to harp on about Our Lives With Bots. In this episode, we cover Google’s new personal intelligence, advertising in ChatGPT (but not Claude), AI attachment and empathy hacking, SuperBowl AI ads, fake jobs for AI data mills, an AI toy that leaked private conversations with kids, asking Grok for fact checks on X, Apple’s acquirement of a telepathic AI company, AI pets that patronize you…and more. - This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us at ⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠. - Links: Google’s new personal intelligence Advertising is coming to ChatGPT. But not to Claude oooo (Sam Altman claps back) AI is hacking attachment and empathy (and should not pretend to have consciousness or emotion) AI toy Bondu exposed 50k logs of its chats with kids to anyone with a gmail account What happens when your process of forming beliefs is offloaded onto a chatbot? Anthropic’s patterns of disempowerment @ Grok is this true? ChatGPT launches ChatGPT Health The AI pet is here (in China) Apple acquires Q [dot] AI, a surveillance tool AlterEgo, the “near-telepathic AI”

    1 h y 16 min
  2. 3 FEB

    Major Trends for AI and Work in 2026: Critical Thinking, AI Automation, Robotics, and AI Audits

    Welcome to Episode 2 of Series 3 on AI & Work, our deep-dive into the part of the AI conversation everyone keeps circling but rarely slowing down to actually think about: skills. As one big tech exec put it (paraphrasing but not really): AI has never been more powerful — and we’ve never been more confused. Cool cool cool. In this episode, we zoom out to look at the major trends shaping AI and work in 2026 — from automation and robotics to AI audits and the not-so-sexy but extremely necessary return of critical thinking (yes, that thing we were all told we could outsource). Spoiler alert: the theme is SKILLS SKILLS SKILLS — especially domain expertise and the ability to not blindly trust whatever the model spits out. We break the conversation down through three (and sometimes four 👀) voices: the companies building these tools, the researchers studying them, the industries using and selling them — and, occasionally, the product itself. We talk institutional pressure, productivity fantasies, and why “just adopt AI” is way easier said than done when time, profit, and quality are all screaming at you. And because we practice what we preach, Angy puts on her industry-practitioner hat and actually audits AI using AI for this very podcast. Can NotebookLM really read, synthesize, and communicate research accurately enough? Can ChatGPT hold a coherent conversation about epistemology? The answers are… instructive. We also dig into youth attitudes toward AI and work, what people want AI to automate versus what experts think it can automate, and why uncritical adoption might be the most expensive skill gap of all. TL;DR: AI isn’t replacing your job — but it is replacing your excuses for not thinking carefully about how you use it. And, fun fact, chatGPT wrote this blurb! We normally craft the blurbs completely from our own brains, but this time, of course, keeping with the audit trend, we asked chatGPT: “can you create a blurb for our video for series 3 on AI and work and AI's impact on our relationship to work, episode 2 deep dive? Below are some skeleton notes for the episode (see: series 3 ep 2 notes) and example blurbs I've written for all the rest of our episodes (see: past episode blurbs). For this blurb, please conform to how I write the past blurbs - funny, colloquial, and informative/grabbing!” - This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us at ⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠. Links: Audio file for NotebookLM podcast on Shao et. al’s “Future of Work” article PDF file for NotebookLM presentation on article

    1 h y 4 min
  3. 20 ENE

    What AI Is Doing to Our Jobs—and to Us

    Welcome to Series 3 of Our Lives With Bots on AI & Work, where we explore AI’s impact on the workforce and our relationship to work. As big tech continues to churn out AI products and companies are tripping over their shoelaces to adopt them, workers are left in the lurch trying to juggle integrating yet another new technology into their workflow. “Move fast and then things are broken, and then you have to move REAL slow to fix them” might just be the tagline of this series. Series 3 of Our Lives With Bots covers just that and more, providing you with both the information and the tools to responsibly integrate AI (or not) into your own work and across your team and organization. Do you use AI for work? We’d love to hear about your experience through our anonymous survey. Feeling alienated by automation? You’re not alone. We’re here to give you facts and insights to make AI at work less isolating. In this introductory episode, we cover: Adoption of AI (Dayforce research) Job Displacement by AI (Goldman Sachs research) The Economist (new jobs) OpenAI’s two new labor-related initiatives Glean’s Work AI Institute to discover what makes AI work at work, deploying AI agents to help organizations integrate AI better The impact on entry-level jobs Deskilling at the entry and senior level Costly reputational risks (ex. Deloitte), spreading misinformation (ex. Springer) Anthropic’s research on their workers Responsible use and lack of standardized training Psychology, of course: Individual-level effects Automation bias Cognitive offloading Longer-term cognitive effects Relationship to your work Collective-level effects Work relationships Structure of organizations Expectations in work - In our last series, you heard all about the impact of AI on children, teens, and young people, with a focus on AI companions, AI toys, and AI tools used in education. We heard from guest speakers Marisa Zalabak, an educational psychologist, practitioner, and AI ethicist, and Pilyoung Kim, psychologist and director of the Brain, AI, and Child (BAIC) Center at the University of Denver. - This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us at ⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠.

    57 min
  4. 6 ENE

    This Chatbot Loves Me! Children, AI, and the Developing Social Brain

    Is it human? Is it robot? Do kids believe that AI chatbots can see, feel, and think? Well, they certainly love it when it affirms their ideas. Welcome to the FINAL episode of Series 2 on the impact of AI on children, teens, and youth. In this episode, you’ll gain insight into the younger generation’s perceptions of AI robots and chatbots with Dr. Pilyoung Kim, Professor of Psychology and the Director of the Brain, Artificial Intelligence, and Child (BAIC) Center at the University of Denver. Apparently, kids aren’t the only ones susceptible to the allure of humanlike AI - their parents are, too. Despite all the stories in the news about the social and mental health impacts of sycophantic AI, Pilyoung’s research shows that parents are more likely to recommend a humanlike AI chatbot to act as a social support for their teens. Further, Pilyoung’s collaborators in Nigeria are intrigued by the idea of AI chatbots posing as elders to maintain continuity of shared cultural values and traditions…but, as Pilyoung points out, the training data for chatbots is so Westernized and, as Angy says, can risk flattening or homogenizing data, leading to a critical loss of diversity. - This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us at ⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠. Links to Pilyoung’s research: "I am here for you": How relational conversational AI appeals to adolescents, especially those who are socially and emotionally vulnerable Young children's anthropomorphism of an AI chatbot: Brain activation and the role of parent co-presence

    52 min
  5. 23/12/2025

    AI in Education: Risks, Ethics, and Opportunities with Marisa Zalabak

    Welcome to Episode 3 of our exclusive Series 2 on the impact of generative AI technologies on children, teens, and young people. In this series, we cover news and research on AI toys, the use of AI in education, and AI’s social and cognitive impacts on one of the most vulnerable subsets of AI users. In this episode, you’ll hear from Marisa Zalabak, an AI ethicist and educational psychologist who has worked as a practitioner and observer in over 500 schools in New York City, which has one of the largest education systems in the world. In our conversation, we cover how AI is being implemented in schools, and how teachers and those responsible for the care of vulnerable children are not being given the tools or time to ensure safety with AI. Marisa discusses what she sees as the greatest risk with AI in education - and it’s not what you might expect - and how open conversations and posing the right questions to your kids, neighbors, and others can help you start to make ethical choices with AI and protect young populations from harmful socio-affective AI use. Marisa is also Co-Founder of GADES (Global Alliance for Digital Education & Sustainability) and Co-Chair of the IEEE AI Ethics Education Committee advancing human well-being with AI systems. - GENERAL TRIGGER WARNINGS: Our show features sensitive content, including mentions of suicide, self-harm, mental health, and sexual harassment and sextortion. Our developing lives with bots renders these subjects front-of-mind in our discussions, and we want viewers to be aware of this as they follow along. - This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us at ⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠.

    40 min
  6. 09/12/2025

    AI Toys and AI in Education: Research & News

    Welcome to Episode 2 of our exclusive Series 2 on the impact of generative AI technologies on children, teens, and young people. In this series, we’ll cover news and research on AI toys, the use of AI in education, and AI’s social and cognitive impacts on one of the most vulnerable subsets of AI users. In this deep-dive episode, we’ll cover recent news and research on generative AI toys and the use of AI in education, providing you with some insane metrics about the AI toy industry in China, the UK, and the US and OpenAI and Mattel’s deal with Barbies and Hot Wheels. We’ll also cover research and news on the new AI toys Curio and Cayla, and discuss the real and potential harms of these new products. On the education side (36:25), we’ll talk about metrics of student use of AI for schoolwork, studies on how the use of AI impacts brain activity and memory and student GPA and learning, the Alpha School and the Google Effect, research that talks about what people truly want AI to replace - and it’s not creativity or critical thinking, despite where AI’s being applied. With all that being said, we’ll also discuss how this all fits into the question of what it means to be human and what it means to replace that - especially in terms of parenting, teaching, and creative work. - GENERAL TRIGGER WARNINGS: Our show features sensitive content, including mentions of suicide, self-harm, mental health, and sexual harassment and sextortion. Our developing lives with bots renders these subjects front-of-mind in our discussions, and we want viewers to be aware of this as they follow along. - In our last episode, we laid the foundation for the series, covering the ongoing court cases around AI-induced suicide for (now) multiple teen users, Alpha School, the aim of big tech to predict the age of their users to “protect” vulnerable populations like children and youth, people’s perspectives on AI use in the classroom, and a truly interesting new AI toy called “Curio,” co-founded by Grimes that has a generative AI stuffed animal called Grok (!!!), “not to be confused” with Elon Musk’s Grok chatbot on X. - This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us at ⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠. Links: MIT Technology Review on AI toys Guardian article on Curio Let the Children Play. Smart Toys and Child Vulnerability AI-Driven Design of Emotionally Supportive Toys for Child Development: An Iterative Process Pew Research Center on US teen’s use of AI for schoolwork Common sense media report on teen companion AI use Kosmyna et al (2025): Your Brain on ChatGPT Research paper on job sector preferences for AI automation

    1 h
  7. 03/12/2025

    What’s the (AI) Hype? Nano Banana Pro, Dinner Dates with Chatbots, and More

    Welcome to our launch episode for Series X - “What’s the (AI) Hype?” - where we intermittently discuss what’s been happening in the world of artificial intelligence in the past few weeks. Today we’ll be discussing all the AI hype that’s been thrown out into the world in the past weeks, covering new AI products, experiences, and companies (including exactly what Angy mentioned in our recording with Henry: “is there room at the restaurant for my AI companion?” well, now there is! -  and the deeply disturbing new impossibility of recognizing AI-generated images (or AI slop from not when AI is not slop) with Gemini’s new Nano Banana Pro image generator); new media coverage on the mental health harms of AI, particularly with losing touch with reality and loss of relationships, and how OpenAI has been well-aware of it since 2020; recent legal and reputational hand-slaps on new AI products (remember that cute teddy bear FOLO toy we talked about? Well, apparently it’s kinky - explicitly so - with children, according to a new report done by the US Public Interest Research Group); some new policy moves with AI (the good and the concerning); and of course, some new research and a bit of “well, then, how are we supposed to use these things responsibly?” thrown in the mix. In this episode, we cover: New AI products, experiences, and companies ChatGPT group chat (Nov 13) Gemini’s Nano Banana Pro (Nov 20) Anthropic partners with Iceland (Nov 4) and Rwanda (Nov 17) for AI in education Griefbot 2Wai by Calum Worthy (Nov 11 promotion) Time for dinner dates… with Eva AI (Nov 18 announced, starting in Dec) Medical startup Akido using LLM for appts and diagnoses (Sept 22) New mental health harm coverage NYT Users lost touch with reality (Nov 23) New legal and reputational slaps on existing AI products FOLO Toy by Futurism and CNN (Nov 13 - Public Interest Research Group report) New policy moves Trump executive order to limit state regulation of AI (Nov 19, Nov 21) Young People’s Alliance, etc. signed humanlike AI policy framework (Nov 21) - GENERAL TRIGGER WARNINGS: Our show features sensitive content, including mentions of suicide, self-harm, mental health, and sexual harassment and sextortion. Our developing lives with bots renders these subjects front-of-mind in our discussions, and we want viewers to be aware of this as they follow along. - This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us at ⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠.

    53 min

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This is Our Lives With Bots, the show where we ask important, timely questions about what it means to live with our bot counterparts. From time to time, we also dive deep into what an AI future might look like for us. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we spiral, but we always go deep. Rose and Angy are psychologists with degrees in psychology, artificial intelligence, and ethics. They have conducted research in human-AI interaction and created this podcast to make information about AI accessible to you. You can learn more about us or stream on your preferred platform at ⁠⁠ourliveswithbots.com⁠⁠.