Take 5

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The Take 5 is a music podcast where the people you love, share five songs they love. Each guest has a different theme, and the memories attached to their most beloved songs flip them to fan mode, often giving a rare insight into their creative heart. Hosted by Zan Rowe.

  1. 11/12/2025

    Best of 2025: Lorde, Gordi, Trent Dalton + more

    It's not definitive, but here are some of the best moments from Take 5 this year: The legendary Richard Fidler threw back to the early days of the Doug Anthony All Stars. Gordi's brilliant third album Like Plasticine gave us an insight into her experience as a doctor on the frontline during the pandemic. Comedians Matt Okine and Denise Scott celebrated Season 2 of their much-loved TV show Mother and Son. Lorde made a triumphant return with her fourth album Virgin. And best-selling author Trent Dalton (Boy Swallows Universe, Gravity Let Me Go) blew up the Double J textline with his heartfelt stories and deep passion for music. Best of 2025 song choices: Richard Fidler: Cocteau Twins – ‘Carolyn’s Fingers’Gordi: Missy Higgins – ‘Any Day Now’Matt Okine: Radiohead – ‘Paranoid Android’Lorde: Charli xcx – 'Girl, so confusing featuring lorde'Trent Dalton: Vera Lynn – '(There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs Of Dover'00:00 Introduction and Show Highlights 00:47 Richard Fidler's Journey with Doug Anthony All Stars 03:33 The Magic of Elizabeth Fraser and Cocteau Twins 07:55 Witnessing the Fall of the Berlin Wall 14:00 Gordi's Personal and Musical Journey 17:50 Missy Higgins' Influence on Gordi 23:13 Comedians Share Unexpected Moments 26:10 Matt Okine's Musical Memories 27:35 A Sudden Change: Mum's Illness 28:32 A Life-Altering Event: Mum's Passing 29:42 Coping with Loss: A Birthday to Remember 30:10 Finding Light in Dark Moments 31:18 Music and Memories: Radiohead's Impact 32:22 Take Five: A Star-Studded Season on ABC TV and ABC iview 32:49 Lorde's Journey: Embracing the Mystery 34:41 The Power of Rhythm: Creating Music 35:27 A Special Remix: Girl, So Confusing with Charli xcx 38:15 Emotional Reactions: The Remix's Impact 46:10 Trent Dalton's Take Five: A Heartfelt Story 48:34 Honoring a Hero: Granddad's Legacy 54:37 Looking Ahead: New Seasons and Reflections Listen to the full episodes here: Richard Fidler: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/take-5/richard-fidler-take-5-history-songs/105441174 Gordi: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/take-5/gordi-take-5-transformation-songs/105598300 Matt Okine & Denise Scott: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/take-5/denise-scott-matt-okine-mother-and-son-mixtape-take-5/105932382 Lorde: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/take-5/lorde-take-5-songs-of-rebirth/105835080 Trent Dalton: https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/take-5/trent-dalton-take-5-his-story/106038960 Watch Take 5 on ABC iview: https://iview.abc.net.au/show/take-5-with-zan-rowe

    56 min
  2. 04/12/2025

    Take 5 with TV On The Radio

    Hearing TV On The Radio talk about music is as fun as it sounds. When the New York band first emerged they were like nothing we’d heard before. A mash of genres and sounds and for many, the sound of tomorrow, today. 10 years on from their last album, the band are back on the road again. And on their first visit to Australia in a decade, they joined Zan Rowe to Take 5.  It’s the only interview they gave while here, and they really went in on the theme of 'future sounds from the past'.  Want to dig into the brains of Tunde Adebimpe, Kyp Malone, and Jaleel Bunton? You’re about to fall into a wormhole. This is a wild and wonderful ride with three of the most intriguing and passionate music minds of our time. TVOTR's song choices: Suzanne Vallie – 'River of Angels' Wings' (unreleased)Pharoah Sanders – 'Izipho Zam'Sun City Girls – 'The Flower'Hildur Guðnadóttir – 'Melody of Not Knowing'Jehovah’s Princess – 'F(X)'00:00 Introduction to the Podcast 00:35 TV on the Radio: A Decade Later 02:07 Reflecting on the Past and Present 04:57 Take 5 theme: Future Sounds from the Past 05:05 SONG 1: Suzanne Vallie – 'River of Angels' Wings' (unreleased) 11:13 The Influence of Pharaoh Sanders 11:33 SONG 2: Pharoah Sanders – 'Izipho Zam' 17:59 Sun City Girls and Their Impact 20:06 SONG 3: Sun City Girls – 'The Flower' 25:15 SONG 4: Hildur Guðnadóttir – 'Melody of Not Knowing' 30:59 SONG 5: Jehovah’s Princess – 'F(X)' 35:18 Conclusion and Farewell

    36 min
  3. 27/11/2025

    Alex Kapranos from Franz Ferdinand

    Do you remember the first time you heard Franz Ferdinand's 'Take Me Out'? The way it began, then completely flipped less than a minute in? It was such a thrill, one that has never dulled in the two decades since.  Six albums later, the Scottish band explore the thrill of living on their latest record, The Human Fear. How human fears drive us on, bolt us into action, give us a thrill. It was ripe for a big convo on Take 5. And frontman Alex Kapranos was up for the challenge. Get ready for a brilliant conversation on the songs that have shaken him in the best of ways, through his life. Alex Kapranos's song choices: The Turtles — 'You Showed Me'Dory Previn — 'With My Daddy In The Attic'Adam and The Ants — 'Kings Of The Wild Frontier'Fiery Furnaces — 'Sweet Spots'Pussy Galore — 'NYC 1999!'00:00 Introduction and Unusual Party 00:49 Overcoming Fear: A Conversation with Alex Kapranos 02:02 SONG 1: The Turtles — 'You Showed Me' 02:23 The Thrill of Sharing Music 04:37 Musical Influences and Songwriting 10:11 SONG 2: Dory Previn — 'With My Daddy In The Attic' 15:38 Parenthood and Fear 18:17 SONG 3: Adam and The Ants — 'Kings Of The Wild Frontier' 21:56 Embracing Performance and Audience Connection 24:32 SONG 4: Fiery Furnaces — 'Sweet Spots' 25:16 Touring with Fiery Furnaces and Hot Hot Heat 30:36 The Indie Music Scene of the Early 2000s 31:10 The Impact of Digital Music 35:07 The Rise of Franz Ferdinand 37:48 Memorable Moments and Reflections 39:49 SONG 5: Pussy Galore — 'NYC 1999!' 39:51 A Chaotic Memory with P***y Galore 43:45 Conclusion and Farewell

    46 min
  4. 20/11/2025

    Trent Dalton's own story in five songs

    Trent Dalton is a master storyteller. His debut novel Boy Swallows Universe is an international bestseller, it was turned into a Netflix series and recently voted as Australia’s #1 read of the last quarter century, in Radio National's Top 100 books. A Walkley Award winning journalist, Trent followed this stunning debut with several other works of fiction, and a collection of Love Stories from the streets of Brisbane. And now he has a new novel, Gravity Let Me Go, for us to sink our teeth into. You’re about to hear an incredible conversation; some big yarns and the music that has shaped Trent Dalton’s whole life story. If you know him, you know he’s a massive music fan, and I’ve been wanting to have him Take 5 for yonks. I soon found out the feeling was mutual. Trent Dalton's song choices: Vera Lynn - '(There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs Of Dover'Melanie - 'Ruby Tuesday'Pearl Jam - 'Alive'Powderfinger - 'These Days'Taylor Swift - 'Out Of The Woods'00:00 Introduction and Opening Anecdote 00:19 Meet Trent Dalton: A Master Storyteller 01:40 The Power of Music in Writing 03:00 SONG 1: Vera Lynn - '(There'll Be Bluebirds Over) The White Cliffs Of Dover' 03:26 Family War Story and the Ultimate Sacrifice 08:48 Love Stories and Personal Reflections 14:29 SONG 2: Melanie - 'Ruby Tuesday' 14:46 A Tale of Two Parents 24:05 Pearl Jam: A Lifelong Influence 27:22 Reflecting on Pearl Jam's Influence 28:28 A Memorable Graduation Night 29:58 Meeting Eddie Vedder 31:37 SONG 3: Pearl Jam - 'Alive' 34:58 The Impact of Boy Swallows Universe 37:24 The Love Story with Fiona 39:32 Powderfinger and Bernard Fanning 42:33 SONG 4: Powderfinger - 'These Days' 45:26 Writing About Long-Term Relationships 48:44 SONG 5: Taylor Swift - 'Out Of The Woods' 52:27 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    55 min
  5. 13/11/2025

    Stella Donnelly's radical honesty

    If you’ve ever lost touch with a friend or been heartbroken by a platonic breakup, Stella Donnelly’s new album is for you.  Documenting the end of a friendship, it’s a brutally honest, heartbreaking, and hopeful record so many of us can relate to. And Zan couldn’t wait to talk with her all about it. Stella is one of the best songwriters around today. She has always shot from the hip, told it like it is, and been unafraid to share the truth. Hearing her speak about the songwriters who do the same is a masterclass in the power of song, and the influence of these incredible songwriters on us all. Stella Donnelly's song choices: Billy Bragg — The Short Answer Kev Carmody + Paul Kelly — From Little Things Big Things Grow Sharon van Etten — Every Time the Sun Comes Up Big Thief — Mythological BeautyLily Allen — Relapse 00:00 - Introduction 01:11 - The relief of releasing Love & Fortune as a whole album 03:38 - SONG 1 : Billy Bragg - 'The Short Answer' 06:40 - Stella on Billy Bragg and the token record of her childhood 08:58 - Radical honesty in songwriting 12:12 - SONG 2 : Kev Carmody & Paul Kelly - 'From Little Things Big Things Grow' 15:30 - Looping mantras & the difficulty of being honest 19:01 - SONG 3 : Sharon van Etten - 'Every Time The Sun Comes Up' 23:44 - Making the album in a homemade cocoon 26:03 - SONG 4 : Big Thief - 'Mythological Beauty' 28:22 - Self critiques & hope for the future 33:50 - SONG 5 : Lily Allen - 'Relapse' 36:23 - Closing thoughts and next weeks guest! Watch Take 5 on ABC iview: https://iview.abc.net.au/show/take-5-with-zan-rowe

    38 min

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The Take 5 is a music podcast where the people you love, share five songs they love. Each guest has a different theme, and the memories attached to their most beloved songs flip them to fan mode, often giving a rare insight into their creative heart. Hosted by Zan Rowe.

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