Beyond the Chart: Exploring the AI Frontier for Oncology

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Beyond the Chart examines the current state of cancer care delivery and AI technology's role in oncology centers today and in a promising future. Each episode features detailed conversations with oncology leaders and clinicians, health tech innovators, and entrepreneurs driving change at the intersection of AI and oncology. Learn how intelligent tools transform clinical workflows, decision-making, and the patient experience.  Tune in for out-of-the-box thinking, real-world outcomes, and a front-row seat to the future of oncology.

  1. Where Startup Thinking Meets Scientific Research in Oncology with Dr. Alicia Zhou (Part 1)

    5 DAYS AGO

    Where Startup Thinking Meets Scientific Research in Oncology with Dr. Alicia Zhou (Part 1)

    What does it really take to build something new in healthcare? In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Alicia Zhou, CEO at Cancer Research Institute. Alicia began her career as a bench scientist before moving into industry, where she spent nearly a decade as Chief Science Officer at Color, helping scale one of the Bay Area’s leading genomics companies. This is part one of our conversation, where we focus on the intersection of biology and technology. Alicia shares what she was able to bring from the startup world into scientific research and how speed and flexibility can be leveraged to create real impact. We also discuss the shift from hypothesis-driven to data-driven biology, and why even the most promising scientific innovation doesn’t automatically translate into a viable product. If you’re building within healthcare, this conversation offers a rare look at what it really takes. Covered in this episode: The intersection of science and technology.How startup thinking applies to healthcare.A startup’s only real advantage.The hidden skill to look for when building a team (beyond competency).How the CRI Discovery Engine is changing how cancer immunotherapies are developed. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Dr. Alicia Zhou on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alicia-zhou-phd-03950610 Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

    28 min
  2. The Hidden Work Behind Complex Cancer Care with Dr. Aparna Parikh (Part 2)

    1 APR

    The Hidden Work Behind Complex Cancer Care with Dr. Aparna Parikh (Part 2)

    In oncology, much of the work happens outside the exam room. In part two of our conversation with Dr. Aparna Parikh, practicing colorectal oncologist, Program Director of GI medical oncology, and Associate Professor at Harvard Medical School, we step into the reality of what it takes to manage a complex cancer case. We talk about the preparation behind each patient visit, the coordination required across surgeons and tumor boards, and the constant effort to make sure patients don’t fall through the cracks as information moves between teams. We also explore when clinicians might begin to trust AI tools with greater autonomy, and continue to consider whether new technologies could unintentionally widen the gap between well-resourced patients and everyone else. Listen now to hear what it really takes to keep complex cancer care coordinated behind the scenes. Covered in this episode: What real workflows look like for complex cancer cases.The challenges that competitive enrollment brings and potential solutions.How data can help close the gaps in cancer care.To what standard should we hold AI to?How technology could help existing inequities in care. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Dr. Aparna Parikh on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aparna-parikh-9197a433 Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

    28 min
  3. Fixing The Access Gap in Oncology with Dr. Aparna Parikh

    18 MAR

    Fixing The Access Gap in Oncology with Dr. Aparna Parikh

    We often talk about the workflow gaps inside oncology. But there’s an even larger gap that happens before any workflow can even begin. What if the patient never makes it to the oncologist in the first place? In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Aparna Parikh, practicing colorectal oncologist, Program Director of GI medical oncology, and Associate Professor at Harvard Medical School. Much of Dr. Parikh’s work focuses on the patients who need the most support from healthcare systems and technology, such as those who live far from screening centers, struggle with digital portals, or lack access to basic infrastructure. In this part one of our conversation, we discuss the barriers that prevent patients from reaching care at all, and where technology can and can’t help close those gaps. We also discuss how inequities extend into clinical trials, and which patients the current system favors. Listen in to hear where the real barriers to cancer care exist and what it will take to close the gap. Covered in this episode: The gap that prevents many patients from accessing cancer care.How inequitable access extends to clinical trials.What needs to be in place before AI can truly help patients.Lessons from cancer prevention efforts in rural communities.What clinicians actually want from technology. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Dr. Aparna Parikh on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/aparna-parikh-9197a433 Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

    29 min
  4. Aligning Lung Cancer Care With A Patient’s Unique Story with Dr. Nagashree Seetharamu

    25 FEB

    Aligning Lung Cancer Care With A Patient’s Unique Story with Dr. Nagashree Seetharamu

    No two cancer patients follow the same path. And with modern lung cancer care being more complex than ever, the cognitive load required to reconstruct and manage each patient’s story is enormous In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Nagashree Seetharamu, oncologist at Northwell Health and Associate Professor at the Zucker School of Medicine. Together, we explore where modern cancer care most often breaks down and what we can do to make it more resilient. Dr. Seetharamu shares where the vast effort that clinicians make shows up in daily practice, where time sacrifices are made, and where important details risk slipping through the cracks. We also examine what clinicians actually want from AI tools that don't replace, but enhance. This conversation reframes innovation within lung cancer care as something more practical, so that outcomes can continue to improve. Covered in this episode: The biggest shifts redefining the standard of care in lung cancer.Why no two lung cancer patients ever follow the same path.What patients and clinicians often misunderstand about modern treatment.Where cognitive overload shows up most in oncology.How AI tools can help minimize blockers of better care. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE Dr. Nagashree Seetharamu - https://www.northwell.edu/find-care/find-a-doctor/dr-nagashree-seetharamu-md-mbbs-1124198833 DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

    31 min
  5. Redefining Cancer Education in the AI Era with Dr. Sanjay Juneja

    11 FEB

    Redefining Cancer Education in the AI Era with Dr. Sanjay Juneja

    If you think the hardest problems in cancer care are purely biological, you might change your mind after listening to this conversation. In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Sanjay Juneja, a practicing oncologist, Vice President of Clinical AI & Informatics at Tempus, and one of the most widely followed cancer educators on social media. Dr. Juneja has built an audience of nearly one million people by translating oncology for the real world, and by asking uncomfortable but necessary questions about how care is delivered today. We explore what drives physicians to educate outside traditional channels, and what that says about the gaps in the system. We also look at how AI may change who gets access to knowledge, how people engage with information, and how AI tools can support decision-making without replacing clinical judgment. This is a grounded conversation about what real progress towards fixing the challenges in modern cancer care looks like. Covered in this episode: Why physicians turn to public education outside traditional channels.How Dr. Sanjay Juneja built an audience of nearly a million people within the oncology space.How AI could reshape access to medical knowledge.What’s holding clinicians back from AI adoption.How we can begin to fix a strained healthcare system. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE Sanjay Juneja - https://sjunejamd.com/ DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/ CONNECT Sanjay Juneja on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanjayjunejamd/ Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/ LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

    46 min
  6. Closing the Gaps in Cancer Survivorship Care with Dr. Lidia Schapira

    21 JAN

    Closing the Gaps in Cancer Survivorship Care with Dr. Lidia Schapira

    When someone is diagnosed with cancer, care quickly begins to revolve around protocols, diagnostic pathways, treatment regimens, surveillance schedules, and clinical decisions made under enormous uncertainty. But what often gets overlooked is the life happening all around it. The fear. The relationships. The work. The identity shift. And what it actually means to live with and beyond cancer. In this episode, we’re joined by Dr. Lidia Schapira, Professor of Medicine at Stanford University and the inaugural Director of Stanford’s Cancer Survivorship Program. Dr. Schapira has spent her career focused on the lived experience of patients, shaping how oncology communicates through her leadership as Editor-in-Chief of Cancer.Net, ASCO’s patient education platform, and as editor of the Art of Oncology section in the Journal of Clinical Oncology for over a decade. We explore why survivorship care remains so difficult to embed into standard oncology workflows and the biggest ‘gap’ that remains in cancer survivorship in the U.S. We also dive deep into AI in medicine, and how we can expect it to affect and support survivorship care going forward. This is a powerful conversation about communication, judgment and presence, that anyone in oncology should hear. Covered in this episode: Why survivorship care is often overlooked in oncology.The importance of the patient’s lived experience after cancer.How AI could support survivorship care.Will AI become a mandatory standard for physicians?The ‘big gap’ in cancer survivorship care in the U.S. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/  CONNECT Dr. Lidia Schapira on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lidia-schapira-83467811/  Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/  LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

    45 min
  7. Why Value-Based Care Could Be Oncology’s Turning Point with Dr. Lalan Wilfong

    7 JAN

    Why Value-Based Care Could Be Oncology’s Turning Point with Dr. Lalan Wilfong

    What if rethinking the payment model in oncology is actually the fastest way to improve patient outcomes? In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Lalan Wilfong, a practicing oncologist and Senior Vice President of Value Based Care at Thyme Care. Lalan has spent years leading value-based initiatives at Texas Oncology and the US Oncology Network, and now works at the intersection of payers, providers, and patients to support care beyond the clinic. We break down why fee-for-service models fall short in cancer care and why aligning payment with outcomes, not volume, is essential for building a more patient-centered system. Lalan explains how value-based care works in practice, where it delivers the most impact, and what it takes to make it a reality. We also explore where AI fits into oncology today and the key blockers that are holding adoption back. Lalan shares a unique and honest perspective as a late adopter of AI technology, offering practical insight into what the tech needs to get right if it’s going to stick. Covered in this episode: What value-based care really means in oncology.Why fee-for-service struggles in cancer care.The biggest challenges in transitioning to value-based oncology.Where AI adds real value in oncology today and where it creates friction.How AI can support oncologists and improve patient outcomes. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/  CONNECT Dr. Lalan Wilfong on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lalanwilfongmd/  Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/  LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

    50 min
  8. The New Standard For Cancer Care: AI’s Role In Rebooting Oncology with Dr. Douglas Flora

    17/12/2025

    The New Standard For Cancer Care: AI’s Role In Rebooting Oncology with Dr. Douglas Flora

    Change in cancer care begins when we choose to see things differently. And few people see it more clearly than Dr. Douglas Flora. Dr. Flora is a practicing oncologist, cancer survivor, Executive Medical Director at Yung Family Cancer Center, Editor in Chief of AI in Precision Oncology, President-Elect of the Association of Cancer Care Centers, and author of Rebooting Cancer Care. His lived experience gives him a rare, 360-degree view of the pressures facing oncology today. In this episode, Dr. Flora breaks down where AI is already proving real clinical value, and we also explore the frontier of how AI is opening the door to a new standard of care. We get into the real bottlenecks oncologists are facing today, and what successful deployment of new solutions looks like. Dr. Flora provides a detailed and honest look into the challenges, and what the future holds for cancer care. Covered in this episode: Where AI is already adding reliable value in oncology.How AI is set to change oncology in 2026 and beyond.The real adoption barriers in terms of culture, trust, workflow, and evidence.What AI developers need to understand about oncology……and what oncologists need to understand about AI. If you got value from this episode of Beyond the Chart, subscribe on your favorite podcast platform so you don’t miss the next one. LEARN MORE Dr. Douglas Flora - https://dougflora.com/  DeepScribe - https://www.deepscribe.ai/  CONNECT Dr. Douglas Flora on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglasflora  Matthew Ko on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/komatthew/  LISTEN Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6IQlU4UeNKLLM4Y1lPTaOV?si=33679e9eb2294adf Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-chart-exploring-the-ai-frontier-for-oncology/id1832485207 YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@deepscribeinc.5623

    50 min
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Beyond the Chart examines the current state of cancer care delivery and AI technology's role in oncology centers today and in a promising future. Each episode features detailed conversations with oncology leaders and clinicians, health tech innovators, and entrepreneurs driving change at the intersection of AI and oncology. Learn how intelligent tools transform clinical workflows, decision-making, and the patient experience.  Tune in for out-of-the-box thinking, real-world outcomes, and a front-row seat to the future of oncology.

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