The Reframe

Douglas Bodin

The Reframe is a platform for open, unfiltered dialogue, insightful discussions, and practical advice on navigating the complexities of mental health and parenting in today's world. We will delve into the social, cultural, and economic shifts in the addictions and mental health treatment landscape in the wake of COVID-19. Join host Douglas Bodin as he showcases the work and insights of professionals pioneering new approaches and making a positive impact on this changing landscape. Douglas has spent more than 33 years as a consultant working with emerging adults and their clinical professionals to devise tailored plans to address challenges related to mental health, addiction, and sometimes just growing up. The Bodin Group is a leading innovator of educational and treatment planning services for adolescents, adults, and their families, and developer of Bodin Mentoring, an action-oriented service to help get teens and young adults engage in their communities.

Episodios

  1. 3 OCT

    Moving from the Paralyzed Process to the Parallel Process with Krissy Pozatek

    When parents become afraid of their children’s emotions, authority collapses, and kids feel less safe, not more. In this episode of The Reframe, therapeutic consultant Douglas Bodin speaks with Krissy Pozatek, parent coach and author of The Parallel Process, about how today’s overly permissive parenting has created what she calls the “paralyzed process.” Drawing from her work with families and teens in treatment, Krissy explores how fear, enmeshment, and a lack of clear boundaries are fueling emotional shutdown, avoidance, and stagnation in kids. She offers a path forward through what she calls the parallel process, where parents reclaim calm authority, implement phase-based structure at home, and create the emotional containment kids need to thrive. Whether you're a parent or clinician, this episode offers practical tools and mindset shifts to foster resilience and restore balance in the family dynamic. Tune in to find out how you can move from fear-based parenting to a more empowered, parallel process! Key Points From This Episode: Insight into the “paralyzed process” of parenting.Ways that permissiveness erodes safety and stability for teens.Reasons that parents need to reclaim kind, firm, calm authority.What can happen when diagnoses become a child’s identity.The rise of enmeshment and learned helplessness.Why your child isn’t responsible for your feelings.Bringing the best of wilderness and experiential therapy into real-world routines.Using structure and phase-based contracts to re-establish authority.Shifting from horizontal parenting to clear guardianship.Distinguishing when behavior is “just a phase” and when intervention is needed.Stepping off eggshells by recognizing when fear gives your child too much control.Balancing connection and boundaries: centering the relationship without losing structure.Applying these approaches to neurodivergent kids, managing the impact of gaming and social media, and encouraging resilience through discomfort. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Parallel Process Parallel Process Intensive Program Group Parent Coaching Class 90-Day Parallel Process Transitions/Reset Program The Parallel Process: Growing Alongside Your Adolescent or Young Adult Child in Treatment Krissy Pozatek on LinkedIn Krissy Pozatek on Instagram Krissy Pozatek on X Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    43 min
  2. 26 SEP

    Not Just the Kid: The Parent’s Role in Treatment with Dr. Brad Reedy

    “The outcome of good parent education doesn’t change children, it changes parents." That  powerful quote sets the stage for today's episode of The Reframe podcast. We're joined by Dr.  Brad Reedy, founder of Finding You Therapy Programs and a veteran in the wilderness treat ment field with over 30 years of experience. Join the conversation as they delve into how Dr.  Reedy got into wilderness treatment therapy, how the impact on outcomes is rarely dependent  on whether the attendance was parent or kid-driven, and the importance of family systems work  throughout therapy. They explore what’s happening within the wilderness treatment industry,  how concerns have shifted over the last 30 years, and also how the severity of concerns has  changed. They unpack the nuanced principle of trauma, two key things about resiliency, how  kids are ultimately an extension of the parents, and why healing your co-dependency is essen tial. For a call to action, his thoughts on social media as the best and worst of our time, and  much more, be sure to tune in now!   Key Points From This Episode:  • How Brad got into the Wilderness Treatment Field.  • What appealed to Brad about wilderness treatment versus other fields of therapy. • The impact on outcomes: whether attendance was parent or kid-driven. • We discuss why family systems work is of crucial importance in therapy. • His thoughts on how the perspective and other factors of wilderness treatment have shifted. • A look at what’s happening within the wilderness therapy industry.  • How concerns (symptoms and issues) have shifted over the last 30 years of treatment. • We explore the shift in severity of concerns and symptoms.   • The impact of one day of wilderness therapy exposure on both Brad and Douglas’ kids. • Shifts in the young adult treatment world and those on the horizon.  • Understanding (and misunderstanding) trauma.  • The nuanced principle of trauma.  • Two key things about resiliency.  • A message to parents: kids are ultimately an extension of their parents.  • Brad speaks to parental guilt and shame.  • Healing your co-dependency as a parent.  • We end with a call to action for people out there working with young people and families. • His thoughts on why social media is both the best and worst of our time.   Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Brad Reedy, Ph.D., on LinkedIn Brad Reedy, Ph.D., on Instagram Brad Reedy, Ph.D., on YouTube The Journey of the Heroic Parent: Your Child's Struggle & The Road Home Finding You Therapy Programs Dr. Daniel Siegel  Parenting from the Inside Out Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    59 min
  3. 19 SEP

    Agency and Consequences: The Keys to Growing Up with Dr. Paul Marcille

    Are we raising young people who can handle adulthood, or are we unintentionally holding them back? In this episode, we welcome Dr. Paul Marcille to discuss how agency, consequences shape resilience, independence, and healthy childhood development. Dr Marcille, a licensed psychologist, has over 35 years of experience in higher education, private practice, and professional leadership, and is recognised nationally for advancing mental health programs and mentoring the next generation of psychologists. In our conversation, Dr. Marcille explains why so many college students arrive unprepared to manage independence and how the erosion of agency is driving struggles with anxiety, depression, and confidence. We delve into how ‘hovering’ can erode independence rather than develop it, the role of agency in fostering problem-solving skills, and why coaching is often about helping the parents manage their own anxiety. Learn why simple dinner-table dialogue between family is essential, the reasons behind the lack of accountability in younger generations, steps parents can take to teach problem-solving skills and build their child’s confidence, and how to create safe but challenging experiences that challenge agency and create self-confidence. Join us to discover what it truly means to help young people thrive and gain a new perspective on agency and consequences with Dr. Paul Marcille! Key Points From This Episode: Find out what it means to have agency and why kids are struggling to develop it.Adolescence and the effects of ‘extended adolescence’ on childhood development.Learn about the impact of extended adolescence on mental health.Differences between true mental illness and transient sadness and anxiety.Hear why parents are often the ones who need help, and not the child.How traditional testing and fact memorization fall short of teaching problem-solving skills.Potential solutions to address the education gaps in schools and colleges.Unpack why establishing consequences for failing and succeeding is crucial. How smartphones distract, reduce engagement, and compromise social development.Why parents need to recognize their own anxiety and not project it onto their child.Reframe the role of parents to love unconditionally, but to set clear boundaries.William Glasser’s Choice Theory and how it informs Dr. Marcille’s approach.Dr. Marcille’s current work and his upcoming workshop on internet porn addiction. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Dr. Paul Marcille on LinkedIn Aspyre Psychological Services Bay Area Psychological Association (BAPA) American Psychological Association (APA) California Psychological Association (CPA) CPA 2025 Convention William Glasser Institute Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    54 min
  4. 12 SEP

    The Motivation Fallacy: Opportunities vs. Necessities with Trine Syverinsen

    After a life-altering event such as the COVID-19 global pandemic, the harsh reality is that literally everything has changed. What was before is not what is now. And this shift in both personal and societal culture is hugely impactful on the entire young person navigating life today. Joining Douglas on the podcast today is one of Bodin’s own, Trine Syverinsen, the Director of Mentoring and Parent Educator. The mentoring program is designed to guide and support adolescents and young adults who live in the Bay Area. In this conversation, Douglas and Trine delve into the cultural shifts post-COVID-19, the biggest challenges our young are facing, and how it’s affecting parenting with regard to getting youngsters to re-engage in life. They discuss the Motivation Fallacy and finding the motivation factor for re-engagement, the importance of having necessity, and how the overlap of opportunity and necessity circles breeds the ultimate grounds for growth. Tune in to hear more, as they dive into topics including disability of family indulgence, what Trine believes is a key factor to reintroduce post-COVID, and hear all about the Mentoring Program at Bodin and what the program aims to achieve in the Bay Area. For all this, and more, start listening now!  Key Points From This Episode: Listeners are introduced to the topic of conversation for today.How the post-COVID cultural shift has changed the world of adolescents today.The biggest challenges being faced today, following the COVID-19 pandemic.How it affects our parenting, especially for the youngesters struggling to re-engage.The Motivation Fallacy: we discuss despondent parents struggling to find the motivating factor to help their teenagers to re-engage.The importance of having necessity in your life and what that means to let life intervene.The need for society to help get these kids “back out” and engaged in real, physical life.Growing our Mentoring Program and why we think it works so well.A respectful conversation about the disability of family indulgence.The overlap of circles: opportunity versus necessity. The profound impact of experiencing shame. What Trine thinks we need post-COVID pandemic shutdown: establishing confidence in your child’s competency. Glueing it together and filling the gap with the mentoring program at Bodin: how it works.We close on a hopeful note and share what we are excited about seeing happen.  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Trine Syverinsen on LinkedIn Trine Syverinsen The Anxious Generation Bodin Mentoring Program Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    57 min
  5. 5 SEP

    The Convenience Trap: How Comfort Undermines Capability with Danny Recio

    Training bodies for the uncertainties of life – what are our youth missing to truly ready them for the world out there? Young people not only need opportunities to confront the unknown, but also have established systems to help them practice navigating situations with unpredictable variables. It's about building resilience and adaptability, essentially creating a "gym of life" where they can train to thrive amidst uncertainty. Here to discuss the convenience trap, how comfort truly undermines our capabilities, is Danny Recio. Danny is the Co-Founder of the Supportive Immersion Institute. Tune into the conversation to hear more about the post-COVID young people atmosphere, his thoughts on the biggest shifts that need to be addressed, why convenience is detrimental, and how it’s also affecting our parenting. We discuss what it means for children to learn to ‘do everything they can’ and why building trust is a vital part of the process. Be part of the conversation to help our youth navigate and be successful in a world of immediacy. Thanks for listening!  Key Points From This Episode: An introduction to our guest, Danny Recio.His thoughts on the post-COVID trend and atmosphere among young people.What stands out as the biggest shifts that need to be addressed with our youth.Why convenience is detrimental and how it also affects parenting. He unpacks what it means for children to do ‘everything they can.’Why trust is interesting: the answer to building trust.How Danny is adapting to these changes in young people.Digital advancements, conveniences, and other main contributors to the lack of practice.Having a system to use when met with unpredictable situations. How to get in touch with Danny and their program at The Bridge. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Danny Recio on LinkedIn Danny Recio on Email Danny Recio The Bridge Danny Recio Pathfinder The Bridge The Supportive Immersion Institute The Self-Driven Child: The Science and Sense of Giving Your Kids More Control Over Their Lives Lisa Feldman Barrett Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    28 min
  6. 29 AGO

    After the Storm: Parenting Neurodiverse Kids in a Post-COVID World with Neil Wallace

    The pandemic left a lasting impact on everyone, but in particular, on neurodiverse children. Now the work begins to help them catch up, heal, and thrive. Joining us today is the business senior executive director of the Heritage Community, Neil Wallace, to discuss how to empower neurodiverse kids to reach their full potential. In this conversation, you’ll hear all about how COVID affected neurodiverse children, why (and how) we need to help neurodiverse kids catch up to their peers post-pandemic, and more! We delve into the power of emotional regulation as a parent to a child with ASD (autism spectrum disorder) before Neil shares some practical tips for doing so and the importance of helping your children process trauma. We discuss the inevitable struggles children with ASD will go through, why they need to experience them, how Neil and his team support and train the caregivers of neurodiverse children, and why all kids with ASD need to build vocational independence. Finally, Neil shares his thoughts on future treatments for neurodiversity. To hear all this, and so much more, be sure to tune in now! Key Points From This Episode: A brief overview of today’s guest, Neil Wallace. The biggest challenges COVID created for neurodiverse kids. How we can help neurodiverse kids catch up to their peers after COVID. Why a parent’s relationship with an ASD child may not be reciprocal in childhood.  The importance of being able to emotionally regulate as a parent to an ASD kid. A few ways to regulate yourself so your neurodiverse child feels safe. Why children with ASD need to be challenged. Neil tells us about his staff and parent support manuals. The most important thing kids with ASD need to achieve: vocational independence. Neil’s thoughts on where the future is heading in the treatment world.  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Neil Wallace on LinkedIn Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    58 min
  7. 22 AGO

    The Risk of Playing It Safe with Kellyn Smythe

    Playing it safe is often the go-to move for guardians trying desperately to protect their kids, but this may prove to be a bigger risk than giving them the tools to cope with life’s inevitable challenges. In today’s episode, Dr. Heather Tracy dons the host’s chair and welcomes Kellyn Smythe, the director of admissions at Pacific Quest, to unpack the risks of playing it safe with the emotional well-being of the children we care for. We begin with how the youth landscape has evolved in recent decades, how to cultivate resilience in our kids but in a gentler way, how to rebuild our collective societal trust, and how to improve mental health treatments and protocols for our youth. Then, Kellyn, who also serves on the boards of the Therapeutic Consulting Association (TCA) and the Young Adult Transition Association (YATA), goes on to unpack the work of Pacific Quest and how the company is playing its part for the emotional wellbeing of its youth, before detailing what parents are most concerned with now compared to 10 and 20 years ago. We also examine the reasons behind youth behavior, how this knowledge helps us to be better guardians, the innate recklessness of youth, and how we can address the negative aspects of American culture and society’s influence on our kids. Finally, we assess how the current insurance landscape places even more pressure on our youth, and Kellyn shares his hopes and dreams for the future of the youth mental health industry. Key Points From This Episode: Kellyn Smythe describes how the youth landscape has shifted in recent decades. How to cultivate resilience in kids, but gentler.  Examining today’s general air of mistrust and how to rebuild society’s collective trust. How to fix mental health treatments and protocols for our youth.The ins and outs of Pacific Quest and how it helps kids with their emotional well-being. What parents are most concerned with now, compared to the past few years. Why risky behavior (as an inherent part of adolescence) should be counselled, not shunned.  Understanding why the youth behave the way they do and why this insight matters. How society and American culture influence youth behavior and how we can address this. Our guest describes what he’s most looking forward to in the future of youth mental health. How the insurance landscape compounds current youth pressures.Connect with Kellyn Smythe.  Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Kellyn Smythe on LinkedIn  Kellyn Smythe on YouTube Pacific Quest  Therapeutic Consulting Association  Young Adult Transition Association  Brat Camp  ‘Young Adults are in Crisis’  Richard Weissbourd Dr. Heather Tracy on LinkedIn New Summit Academy  The Bridge Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    42 min
  8. 15 AGO

    Not Therapy: From Running Away to Giving Back with Hayley Caddes and Colin MacDonald

    What happens when former “troubled teens” decide to give back? In this episode of The Reframe, Douglas Bodin and Dr. Heather Tracy sit down with Hayley Caddes and Colin MacDonald, co-founders of Not Therapy, a coaching collective reimagining mental health beyond traditional therapy models. Drawing on their own journeys through wilderness programs, rehab, and therapeutic boarding schools, Hayley and Colin share candid insights about the gaps in current treatment approaches, the evolving struggles teens face today, and why healing is an ongoing, personalized process that requires more than therapy. They explore the power of peer-led coaching, the essential role of parental support, and how lived experience can unlock new paths to sustainable wellness. Tune in for a candid and hopeful conversation about moving past stigma, embracing diverse mental health tools, and building communities that truly support growth after treatment! Key Points From This Episode: Meet Hayley and Colin: co-founders of Not Therapy.Hayley’s journey from self-harm and substance abuse to Columbia graduate and founder.Colin’s story of anger, rehab, wilderness programs, running away, and returning stronger.What has changed: why teens today are “acting in,” not “acting out.”Social media, parental anxiety, and the new face of teen struggles.Why treatment isn’t the end; it’s the first step in lifelong change.The critical role of parental involvement, trust, and preparation.Why Not Therapy focuses on post-treatment support and peer mentoring.Building a community, routine, and vision for the future.Personal empowerment: making mental health tools work after the program ends.How Not Therapy connects with clients by sharing real stories, not sales pitches.Challenging therapy stigma and debunking the myth of one-size-fits-all mental health care.The power of lived experience versus clinical credentials.Partnering with parents, consultants, programs, and graduates for meaningful impact. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Not Therapy Hayley Caddes Colin MacDonald Not Therapy on Instagram Hayley Caddes on Instagram Colin MacDonald on Instagram Heather Tracy New Summit Academy Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    55 min
  9. 8 AGO

    Growing Up Too Slow: From At-Risk to Risk-Averse with Doug Bodin

    The pandemic may be behind us, but its impact on young people is far from over. In this episode of The Reframe, host Douglas Bodin is joined by guest host Trine Syverinsen, Director of Mentoring Services at The Bodin Group, to unpack how post-COVID culture has reshaped youth development, family dynamics, and access to mental health care. Drawing on insights from Doug’s national “listening tour,” they explore how families are navigating a fragmented treatment landscape and why many young people aren’t thriving, despite access to therapy and school support. From stalled development to a growing gap in resilience, this candid conversation offers a grounded look at what’s missing and what’s working in the current system. Tune in for real-world examples, practical takeaways, and a powerful call to re-engage our youth in life beyond the therapy room! Key Points From This Episode: Insights from Doug’s national “listening tour” with treatment professionals.How teen behavior has shifted since the pandemic.Acting in vs. Acting out: why kids are growing up too slow, not too fast.The benefits and drawbacks of insurance-driven mental health care.An overview of the mentoring program at Bodin for teens and young adults.Why accepting mentoring support can feel challenging for some parents.A guide to the essential role that mentoring plays in the post-pandemic era.From crisis to stagnation: the rise of “slow-motion” mental health risks.The challenges parents face in trying to raise well rounded kids.How mentoring provides crucial in-between support and helps build resilience. Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:  Trine Syverinsen Trine Syverinsen on LinkedIn The Anxious Generation The Coddling of the American Mind Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    34 min
  10. 6 AGO

    The Pendulum Swing: Redefining a Generation's Relationship with Mental Health

    What if the language we use is distorting how we experience mental health? In this inaugural episode of The Reframe, Douglas Bodin and Dr. Heather Tracy sit down with Brennon Patrick Moore, trauma therapist and cofounder of Skyline Recovery, to unpack how cultural shifts, social media, and post-COVID parenting have changed the way we talk about (and sometimes over-identify with) trauma, anxiety, and other mental health labels. They explore the unintended consequences of self-diagnosis, the rise of “safe spaces,” and the challenge of fostering resilience in both therapy and parenting. Through candid insights and practical tools, this conversation challenges us to rethink the stories we tell ourselves and how we help others build strength beyond their comfort zones. Tune in for a grounded, unfiltered conversation on redefining our relationship with mental health! Key Points From This Episode: The trauma pendulum: from denial to over-identification.TikTok therapy and the rise of self-diagnosis.How words like unsafe, anxious, and depressed shape our reality.Ways that over-accommodating parenting can erode resilience.Insight into the “safe space” trap and why it matters.Validating feelings without feeding the story.How somatic work shifts trauma beyond just talk.From “dread” to “anxiety:” how language changed us.When trauma becomes an identity (and how to stop it).Building grit and resilience: why discomfort is key to growth! Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode: Brennon Patrick Moore Skyline Recovery Brennon Patrick Moore on LinkedIn Brennon Patrick Moore on Instagram Young Adult Transition Association (YATA) Heather Tracy New Summit Academy Douglas Bodin The Bodin Group

    19 min

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The Reframe is a platform for open, unfiltered dialogue, insightful discussions, and practical advice on navigating the complexities of mental health and parenting in today's world. We will delve into the social, cultural, and economic shifts in the addictions and mental health treatment landscape in the wake of COVID-19. Join host Douglas Bodin as he showcases the work and insights of professionals pioneering new approaches and making a positive impact on this changing landscape. Douglas has spent more than 33 years as a consultant working with emerging adults and their clinical professionals to devise tailored plans to address challenges related to mental health, addiction, and sometimes just growing up. The Bodin Group is a leading innovator of educational and treatment planning services for adolescents, adults, and their families, and developer of Bodin Mentoring, an action-oriented service to help get teens and young adults engage in their communities.