Cybersecurity Ecosystem Show

Cybersecurity Ecosystem Show

The Cybersecurity Ecosystem Show connects the full spectrum of the industry: practitioners, investors, vendors, regulators, and everyone in between — because the more we learn from each other, the stronger we become.

  1. 11 hr ago

    The Dark Knight of Game Economies on AI, Curiosity, and Guardrails

    Ward Spangenberg has spent his career finding the gaps: mapping trout DNA with a homemade database in college, dismantling a game economy's black market so thoroughly that players nicknamed him the Dark Knight, and helping build the case for bug bounties at HackerOne. Now he's the founder of Behavry.ai, building in the category Gartner calls guardian agents. In this conversation, Ward and Taylor dig into why security spends its money explaining last night instead of preventing tomorrow, what purple teaming should have become, how to hire engineers with the play instinct, and why AI won't take over but ungoverned agents absolutely will hurt you. Ward breaks down the four things real AI agent governance requires: no self-attestation, real-time review of every action, human-in-the-loop escalation instead of binary yes/no decisions, and tamper-evident audit trails that regulators are about to start asking for. Whether you're a practitioner, a founder, an investor, or just AI-curious, this one is full of stories you'll retell. What's acutely broken in security: an industry built on hindsightThinking like an attacker: every door, every window, one unlockedPurple teaming as a quarterly exercise when you don't have the budgetHiring for curiosity: role-play interviews and the "what do you play with at home" questionWhy AI won't take over (and why it doesn't write perfect code)The junior analyst who becomes a level two with the right AI toolingWard's origin stories: trout genetics, game fraud, and the Dark KnightWhy you can't kill the black market: the bug bounty lessonBehavry.ai and the guardian agents category: proxy, policy, attestationThe compliance wave: EU AI rules, Wyoming, and the SECWard Spangenberg is a longtime security practitioner and leader whose career spans companies like Uber, HackerOne, and a Silicon Valley gaming company, plus years presenting to lawyers and law enforcement investigators. He is the founder of Behavry.ai, an AI governance platform that adds policy, human-in-the-loop controls, and independent, tamper-evident attestation to any AI agent, model, or provider. He is also a rugby coach, a gym rat, and the kind of person who stuck a paper clip in an outlet as a kid and grew up to build guardrails for a living. Behavry.aiWard on LinkedIn: Ward SpangenbergWard on Twitter/X: @wardspan

  2. 11 Jun

    Shift Left, Real Moats, and Where Your Data Actually Goes, with Chris Bollerud

    Most security leaders come up through IT or risk. Chris Bollerud came up through code, and it changes how he sees the entire field. Chris is the CISO at AppZen, an AI-driven finance platform, and a software engineer of more than twenty years before that. In this episode he explains why AI gives attackers and defenders the same speed boost, why shifting left only works when you automate the catch instead of training developers and hoping, and how a single dinner with two competing vendors reframed his view of application security. From there the conversation widens out. Chris makes the case that third party risk management is overdue for a reset, that frameworks like ISO 42001 and the NIST AI RMF have not earned enterprise trust, and that nearly every security questionnaire reduces to one question: where does my data go. He also shares the one line from an early career review that reshaped how he communicates, why he thinks AI slop is the next propaganda problem, and what makes a real moat when a buyer can rebuild most of your tool in weeks. A wide-ranging conversation for anyone in or around cybersecurity, from practitioners and vendors to investors and regulators. Listen and follow so you don't miss what's next.

  3. 28 May

    Line Cook to CISO: Eric Freeman on AI, Access Control, and Why Security Is Just Dinner Prep

    Eric Freeman is the CISO at Writer, an AI-native company that has built its own large language model. Before that, he worked across blockchain and emerging technology. Before any of that, he was a line cook pulling 16-hour shifts in a restaurant kitchen six days a week. That background shows up in everything about how he leads. In this episode, Eric draws a direct line between prepping for dinner service and implementing security controls, between reading a plate and reading a log, between surviving a Friday night rush and surviving a major incident. We get into how AI is changing both offense and defense in cybersecurity right now, with specific examples of how his team is using LLMs to automate vulnerability validation end-to-end. He explains why context is the only thing that makes AI useful and shares a learning framework where team members use personal analogies to internalize unfamiliar concepts through LLMs. Eric also doesn't hold back on what's broken. He makes the case that cybersecurity stress is a structural problem, not a personal one, and proposes a mandatory security credit score for businesses. He breaks down prompt injection as social engineering for machines, agents as scripts with more dynamicness, and reduces all of cybersecurity to a single mental model: access control. We close with his framework for the three camps of cybersecurity buyers, why two of those camps are the reason the industry still sells on fear, and how to build a security culture with engineers by making the secure path the fastest path. For practitioners, vendors, investors, and anyone trying to understand how the cybersecurity industry actually works underneath the noise. Connect with Eric Freeman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-m-freeman/

  4. 14 May

    Data Governance, Board Buy-In, and the Thing You Can't Shut Off: A CISO's Cross-Industry Playbook

    Janet Heins has led cybersecurity programs in pharma, manufacturing, cruise lines, broadcast media, and healthcare. Every industry felt unique from the inside, and they are. But the patterns she's found underneath are what make this conversation worth listening to. Every industry has a system that can't be shut off, even when security demands it. Every organization has legacy infrastructure that's too embedded to replace and too old to protect with modern tools. And almost no company has a dedicated leader responsible for governing the data that everything else depends on. In this episode, Janet walks through what she's learned moving across industries by design. She shares the four-category framework she uses to get board buy-in for cybersecurity investments: operational, financial, reputational, and regulatory. She explains why aligning security to the company's mission is the difference between being seen as the department that says no and being treated as a strategic partner. And she gets into why data governance is the gap that's making every other cybersecurity and AI challenge harder than it needs to be. We also talk about AI and what it means for practitioners right now, why university cybersecurity curricula are struggling to keep pace, what major security incidents actually feel like from the inside, and what Janet learned writing her book Go Ahead, Ask For It about making your value visible and advancing your career. This one is for CISOs who want a framework they can use in any industry, practitioners thinking about career growth, vendors who want to understand how security leaders actually make decisions, and investors trying to evaluate security maturity from the outside. Connect with Janet Heins on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janetheins/ Get Go Ahead, Ask For It on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Go-Ahead-Ask-Value-Undeniable-ebook/dp/B0GLR2W4D5

  5. 30 Apr

    OEM Partnerships: What Every Practitioner, Vendor, and Investor Needs to Understand

    The threat intel in your SIEM, the scanning engine in your endpoint tool, the analysis powering your detection platform. There's a good chance those capabilities come from a company you've never directly evaluated. That's OEM. And it touches every corner of cybersecurity. Chad Loeven has spent 20 years building OEM partnerships on both sides of the table, licensing technology inbound as a buyer and outbound as a seller. In this episode, he breaks open one of the most misunderstood parts of the cybersecurity market and explains how it actually works. We get into what qualifies as OEM versus resale or MSSP, why OEM can be the smartest go-to-market path for startups, and the real stories behind deals that worked and deals that didn't. Chad shares the seven-figure Yahoo contract that nearly drained his company, the DLP product that proved some solutions just don't OEM well, and the time he walked into a company where 25% of revenue disappeared overnight because of a single OEM dependency. But this isn't just a conversation for partnership teams. If you're a practitioner, this episode explains why some capabilities in your stack feel native and others feel bolted on. It's about your vendors' partner ecosystems and why they matter to your security posture. If you're an investor, Chad breaks down why OEM revenue gets discounted, when that discount is justified, and the concentration risk questions you should be asking during due diligence. If you're a vendor, you'll walk away with a framework for which products OEM well, how to structure deals that don't erode your margins, and why technology integrations are the front door to your best OEM relationships. OEM is the invisible infrastructure underneath most of the cybersecurity products the industry depends on. This conversation makes it visible.

  6. 21 Apr

    Code War: How Nations Hack, Spy & Shape the Digital Battlefield — Allie Mellen on Cybersecurity’s Geopolitical Evolution

    Explore the ever-evolving digital battlefield on the Cybersecurity Ecosystem Show as we connect the dots between nations, history, and the future of cyber conflict. In this episode, Allie Mellen discusses her new book on how the United States, China, and Russia leverage hacking and information operations to shape global security and power. From the impact of multi-domain warfare in the Gulf War to Russia's cyber experimentation in Ukraine, Allie Mellen unpacks nation-state motivations, social contracts, and what every sector—from practitioners to investors, vendors, and regulators—needs to understand about the present and future of cyberwarfare. Join us as we bridge history, technology, and practical insights for the entire cybersecurity community.

  7. 06/12/2025

    Unlocking Sales Engineering Excellence in Cybersecurity: Best Practices, Trends & Impact

    Join Taylor Wells, Tony Kelly, and Justin Bauer on this insightful episode of Security Revenue LIVE as they dive deep into the evolving role of sales engineers in the cybersecurity space. Discover why sales engineers are key to connecting the dots between technical solutions and real business outcomes, and how they can advocate for customers while influencing product development, marketing, and customer success across the organization. Packed with practical advice and real-world stories, this episode explores best practices for building and scaling SE teams, driving effective customer engagement during the pre-sales process, and executing impactful POCs and workshops. Whether you’re a go-to-market leader, aspiring SE, or curious about the intersection of technical expertise and sales success, you’ll leave with actionable strategies to elevate your approach and drive impact in the fast-paced world of cybersecurity. Tune in for expert perspectives, audience Q&A, and the inside scoop on what works, what doesn’t, and what’s next for technical sales leaders!

  8. 30/10/2025

    How Top Cyber Companies Win with Customer Success in 2025

    Customer Success sits at the center of cybersecurity go-to-market growth. Joy Aaring, David Tirazona, and Julie Giannini share real-world strategies for transforming CS from a post-sales function into a true driver of revenue, expansion, and advocacy. Learn how top teams accelerate time to value, strengthen customer relationships, and build authentic advocacy — even in a market where privacy is paramount.

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The Cybersecurity Ecosystem Show connects the full spectrum of the industry: practitioners, investors, vendors, regulators, and everyone in between — because the more we learn from each other, the stronger we become.

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    Cybersecurity Ecosystem Show
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
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