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01.04.2025

S12E3: The New Era of Design Leadership with Tony Bynum

Tony Bynum is bilingual. He can speak the language of both business and design, a skill that makes him a unique leader in our industry. Tony is the director of the Institute for Design’s new ID Academy, where he is also a professor of practice. Previously, he founded the Northwestern Mutual Design Thinking Center of Excellence in Milwaukee, WI where he was Principal Senior Director of Experience Design. In this episode, Tony shares lessons from his unorthodox career path that are still applicable in today’s tumultuous job market. He also shares advice for leaders and new hires on how to use design thinking as a tool for resistance. And Tony and Ellen attempt to give a name to the current era of design- hint: it’s all about designing WITH rather than designing FOR. On this season of DB|BD, we are Designing for the Unknown. Host Ellen McGirt asks visionary designers how they navigate uncertainty- whether it be technological disruption, global crises, or shifting cultural norms. Visit our site for more on this episode and to view a transcript. Tony’s interview in The Reel Black List. Design As Humanity episode featuring Susan Fabry Follow The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app.

01.04.2025

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42 Min.
04.03.2025

S12E1: The Future of Cities is Climate Adaptive with Michael Eliason

Welcome to the 12th season of DB|BD. This season we are Designing for the Unknown. Michael Eliason of Larch Lab is an architect, researcher, writer and urbanist based in Seattle He’s a self-described activist for dense, livable, affordable, and sustainable cities and the author of Building for People: Designing Livable, Affordable, Low-Carbon Communities. In the aftermath of the fires in Southern California, Michael helps host Ellen McGirt understand how we can build or rebuild communities to anticipate the significant climate changes imperiling our world and make us healthier, happier, more connected people. On this season of DB|BD, we are Designing for the Unknown. Host Ellen McGirt asks visionary designers how they navigate uncertainty- whether it be technological disruption, global crises, or shifting cultural norms. Visit our site for more on this episode and to view a transcript. Michael’s book Building for People: Designing Livable, Affordable, Low-Carbon Communities Larch Lab Jane Jacobs: Neighborhoods in Action Henry Graber on Tokyo’s approach to fire resistance

04.03.2025

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31 Min.
11.11.2025

S12E10: The Past, Present and Future of Design with Lee Moreau

Lee Moreau is the host of the Design Observer podcasts Design As and The Futures Archive. He is also a Professor of the Practice of Design at Northeastern University and the founder and director of Other Tomorrows, a design and strategy consultancy based in Boston. Lee is also the perfect guest to cap off the 12th season of DB|BD- a season that grappled with designing for the unknown. Lee faces the challenge of uncertainty head-on in his teaching, on his podcasts and in his consultancy practice. In this unexpectedly emotional conversation with DB|BD host Ellen McGirt, Lee gets real about the state of design. He explains why design is a practice of reckoning with the past as much as it is of designing for the future. He also reflects on his conversations with other designers about balancing the threats and possibilities of AI. And he shares why he is cautiously optimistic that there will always be a place in our world for designers and design. And stay tuned after the interview for Ellen’s season 12 recap! Visit our site for more on this episode and to view a transcript. Listen to all three seasons of Design As on our website. Institute of Design’s Shapeshift Summit

11.11.2025

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49 Min.
07.03.2017

S2E2: Neri Oxman

Neri Oxman leads the Mediated Matter research group at the MIT Media Lab.

07.03.2017

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24 Min.
28.08.2024

S11E9: What’s Love Got to Do With Business with Jorge Fontanez

Jorge Fontanez is the CEO of B Lab, a non-profit network that believes business can be a force for good. B Lab is best known for certifying B Corps, companies that meet high standards of social and environmental performance and accountability. To become a B Corp, companies need to be transparently addressing things like DEI, their own climate footprint and labor conditions. There are currently just over 9,000 B Corps in 102 countries across 162 industries, including well known brands like Patagonia, Toms, and Ben & Jerry’s. As the steward of B Lab’s rigorous certification process, Jorge believes that business can be more loving. To Jorge, this means building out corporate structures where every single person has access to opportunity and can benefit from a company’s growth. In this episode of DB|BD, hosts Jessica Helfand and Ellen McGirt sit down with Jorge to discuss just what love really has to do with it (business). Jorge also offers his digestible wisdom on daunting topics like facing down the ESG backlash, corporate hubris, how to identify a new generation of justice minded CEOs and rethinking marketing as a tool for education. On this season of DB|BD, co-hosts Jessica Helfand and Ellen McGirt are observing equity by highlighting the “redesigners” — people who are addressing urgent problems by challenging big assumptions about how the world can and should work — and who it should work for. This season of DB|BD is powered by Deloitte. Visit our site for more on this episode and to view a transcript. B Lab’s website. Sarah Ganz Blythe Appointed as Director of Harvard Art Museums Follow The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app. Episodes are produced by Design Observer’s editorial team. The views and opinions expressed by podcast speakers and guests are solely their own and do not reflect the opinions of Deloitte or its personnel, nor does Deloitte advocate or endorse any individuals or entities featured on the episodes.

28.08.2024

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51 Min.
01.07.2025

S12E8: Candace Parker & Michael C. Bush on Purpose, Leadership and Meeting the Moment

In this episode of DB|BD, you’re in for a two for one– or in this case, a double double. First up, host Ellen McGirt sits down with Michael C. Bush, the CEO of Great Place to Work. Every year, Great Place to Work sends out a survey to 23 million people across 170 countries to ask them how valued and respected they feel at work. Companies that score well on the survey are bestowed with the honor of being- you guessed it- a certified Great Place to Work. Michael talks with Ellen about why Great Place to Work companies are also some of the most profitable, how expectations for workplace culture vary around the world and why consistency is an essential leadership trait. He also shares his thoughts on whether leadership is based in nature or nurture and if DEI was even fully baked to begin with. Later in the episode, Ellen chats with WNBA legend Candace Parker. Candace is a three time WNBA champion and two time Olympic Gold medalist. She is still the only W player to win Rookie of the Year and MVP in the same season. She’s also the author of the new book The Can-Do Mindset: How to Cultivate Resilience, Follow Your Heart, and Fight for Your Passions. On top of all that, she is a broadcaster, mom, wife and advocate. In this live conversation, recorded on stage at Great Place to Work’s For All Summit, Candace talks about how she got the nickname “can-do”, finding her footing in the W while also nursing her daughter, embracing negativity and why her leadership advice includes signing up for a team sport. On this season of DB|BD, we are Designing for the Unknown. Host Ellen McGirt asks visionary designers how they navigate uncertainty- whether it be technological disruption, global crises, or shifting cultural norms. More on the Great Place to Work Trust Index Candace Parker’s The Can-Do Mindset: How to Cultivate Resilience, Follow Your Heart, and Fight for Your Passion Dr. Richard Cook’s lecture “How Complex Systems Fail” James Baldwin & William F. Buckley’s 1965 debate

01.07.2025

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48 Min.
TRAILER

S1E0: Trailer

A quick preview of Season 1, with Michael Bierut, Jessica Helfand, and a few of their guests.

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3 Min.
11.09.2024

S11E10: Activism in AI with Google’s Ovetta Sampson

Ovetta Sampson is the Director of User Experience Machine Learning at Google. In December 2023, Business Insider named Ovetta to their AI 100, a list of the 100 most influential people working in artificial intelligence. Her inclusion on that list is a refreshing addition. Ovetta approaches her work with generative AI and machine learning as an activist, with a commitment to humanity and ethics. In the final interview episode of the 11th season of DB|BD, Jessica Helfand and Ellen McGirt sit down with Ovetta to talk about why awareness of how AI is made is the first step towards holding it, and the people who make it, accountable. Ovetta also shares more about her mantra “Skynet not yet”, why we all should have an expectation that our data will be used responsibly and how her dad’s Commodore 64 launched her programming journey On this season of DB|BD, co-hosts Jessica Helfand and Ellen McGirt are observing equity by highlighting the “redesigners” — people who are addressing urgent problems by challenging big assumptions about how the world can and should work — and who it should work for. This season of DB|BD is powered by Deloitte. Visit our BRAND NEW site for more on this episode and to view a transcript. Ovetta Sampson’s website. Follow The Design of Business | The Business of Design on Spotify, Apple Podcasts or your favorite podcast app. Episodes are produced by Design Observer’s editorial team. The views and opinions expressed by podcast speakers and guests are solely their own and do not reflect the opinions of Deloitte or its personnel, nor does Deloitte advocate or endorse any individuals or entities featured on the episodes.

11.09.2024

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38 Min.
16.10.2018

S5E3: Ellen Lupton

Ellen Lupton is the curator of contemporary design at Cooper Hewitt, the Smithsonian Design Museum.

16.10.2018

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29 Min.
22.07.2025

S12E9: The Risks of Retreating from DEI with Catalyst’s Alix Pollack & Redesigning Design Thinking with Doug Powell

In a time where it's hard to feel hopeful, a new study has left leaders who value DEI aflutter with tentative optimism. It’s called The Risk of Retreat, conducted by Catalyst and the NYU Meltzer Center of Diversity, Inclusion and Belonging, it compiled data from surveys of 2,500 employees from across the U.S. on their thoughts about workplaces backtracking from their DEI policies. The study found that retreating from DEI poses significantly MORE business risk than keeping those policies in place. In this episode of DB|BD, Catalyst’s Head of Knowledge Transformation and Solution Development Alixandra Pollack sits down with host Ellen McGirt to discuss the four categories of risk companies face when retreating from DEI and the study’s recommendations to leaders for a non-reactive approach to maintaining inclusion and trust. Next up, Ellen chats with a design leader who is really living and breathing one of Alix's recommendations "walk the talk and talk the walk." Doug Powell is a designer, educator, facilitator and host of the podcast This is a Prototype. He pioneered human-design centered practices at big companies like IBM and Expedia. In this conversation, Doug shares with Ellen his experience of learning to be a leader on the job, getting a big company on board with design and why design thinking needs a rebrand. On this season of DB|BD, we are Designing for the Unknown. Host Ellen McGirt asks visionary designers how they navigate uncertainty- whether it be technological disruption, global crises, or shifting cultural norms. Read The Risk of Retreat in full. Doug’s website and tune in to his podcast This is a Prototype

22.07.2025

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52 Min.

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S12E10: The Past, Present and Future of Design with Lee Moreau

S2E2: Neri Oxman

S11E9: What’s Love Got to Do With Business with Jorge Fontanez

S12E8: Candace Parker & Michael C. Bush on Purpose, Leadership and Meeting the Moment

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S11E10: Activism in AI with Google’s Ovetta Sampson

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S12E9: The Risks of Retreating from DEI with Catalyst’s Alix Pollack & Redesigning Design Thinking with Doug Powell

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