The Plato Paradigm

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Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

  1. vor 2 Tagen

    0259 Lysis Conclusions 4 of 5

    The verbiage in the dialogue hardly represents the best of philosophical argument, but it is an excellent demonstration of the clash between various character types representing aspects of good or apparent good. The attempt is commendable, but not so clear-cut and fully elaborated as it is in Politeia (Republic), which for this and other reasons must be considered to be a later work. Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

  2. 10. Juli

    0258 Lysis Conclusions 3of 5

    The first conversation supposedly on philia which Socrates narrates is with Lysis alone. We actually learn more about Lysis and his alternative approach to being better than others (and therefore apparently good), while Menexenus seems to prefer verbal debate as his means of appearing good. Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

  3. 3. Juli

    0257 Lysis Conclusions 2of 5

    The narrated conversation between Socrates and the boys is in two parts. The second is mainly with Menexenus. Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

  4. 26. Juni

    0256 Lysis Conclusions 1 of 5

    The dialogue is traditionally considered to be about friendship. The structure of the dialogue suggests that there is more to it than that. For example, the narrated conversation between Socrates and the boys Lysis and Menexenus is contextualized as a demonstration to Hippothales on how to speak to one's lust object with a view to catching him. We may deduce from the non-reaction of the unknown audience to whom Socrates is narrating that this emphasis on eros (lust) is to engage the audience in a conversation otherwise of little interest. Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

  5. 19. Juni

    0255 Lysis 223a

    The dialogue concludes with Socrates disappointing both his audiences. He suggests to Lysis and Menexenus, his apparent friends, that they are a laughingstock to the others because they do not know what a friend is. As for his unknown audience, who would surely identify with Hippothales eager to learn from Socrates how to captivate a lust object, we may imagine the confusion caused by Socrates having some intimate words with Lysis and Menexenus while they are all being led out of the palaestra. Hippothales is not mentioned, and the feeling is that he is shut out. Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

  6. 12. Juni

    0254 Lysis 222e

    Socrates gives a summation of the case, as if in a lawcourt, listing all the things which friendship is not. Were the list to be true, we would need to conclude not only that friendship is still undefined, but that it is altogether impossible Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

  7. 5. Juni

    0253 Lysis 222d

    The boys a.re unchanged by the entire conversation, despite Socrates' attempt to intoxicate them with words. The main problem the boys have is an inability to compare what is being said with what has been said earlier. Politeness is a Good Thing according to poisoners, but some friendly criticism and opposition is the alcoholic antidote to hemlock. Alcohol only works, however, if it is ingested Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

  8. 29. Mai

    0252 Lysis 222c

    More evidence at the end of the dialogue that the boys are unable to put two thoughts together to create a rational conclusion. They appear not to understand even what "the same" means, let alone what "the proper" means. They return to assumptioms already refuted in previous arguments. Socrates is far from making them dialectically drunk; they appear to be teetotallers. Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

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Here I read through Platonic dialogues, translating and commenting on the Greek text as I go. The resulting analyses may be found at: https://theplatoparadigm.com

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