Gordon Pennycook is an Associate Professor at Cornell University. We talk about his upbringing in rural Northern Canada, how he got into academia, and his work on misinformation: why people share it and what can be done about it. BJKS Podcast is a podcast about neuroscience, psychology, and anything vaguely related, hosted by Benjamin James Kuper-Smith. Support the show: https://geni.us/bjks-patreon Timestamps 0:00:00: Straight outta Carrot River: From Northern Canada to publishing in Nature 0:37:01: Exploration vs focusing on one topic: finding your research topic 0:48:57: A sense of having made it 0:54:17: Why apply reasoning research to religion? 0:59:45: Starting working on misinformation 1:08:20: Defining misinformation, disinformation, and fake news 1:15:52: Social media, the consumption of news, and Bayesian updating 1:24:48: Reasons for why people share misinformation 1:35:57: Are social media companies listening to Pennycook et al? 1:38:19: Using AI to change conspiracy beliefs 1:44:59: A book or paper more people should read 1:46:33: Something Gordon wishes he'd learnt sooner 1:48:12: Advice for PhD students/postdocs Podcast links Website: https://geni.us/bjks-podBlueSky: https://geni.us/pod-bsky Gordon's links Website: https://geni.us/pennycook_webGoogle Scholar: https://geni.us/pennycook-scholarBlueSky: https://geni.us/pennycook-bsky Ben's links Website: https://geni.us/bjks-webGoogle Scholar: https://geni.us/bjks-scholar References Costello, Pennycook & Rand (2024). Durably reducing conspiracy beliefs through dialogues with AI. Science. Dawkins (2006). The God Delusion. MacLeod, ... & Ozubko (2010). The production effect: delineation of a phenomenon. Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition. Nowak & Highfield (2012). Supercooperators: Altruism, evolution, and why we need each other to succeed. Pennycook, ... & Fugelsang (2012). Analytic cognitive style predicts religious and paranormal belief. Cognition. Pennycook, Fugelsang & Koehler (2015). What makes us think? A three-stage dual-process model of analytic engagement. Cognitive Psychology. Pennycook, Cheyne, Barr, Koehler & Fugelsang (2015). On the reception and detection of pseudo-profound b******t. Judgment and Decision making. Pennycook & Rand (2019). Lazy, not biased: Susceptibility to partisan fake news is better explained by lack of reasoning than by motivated reasoning. Cognition. Pennycook & Rand (2021). The psychology of fake news. Trends in cognitive sciences. Rand (2016). Cooperation, fast and slow: Meta-analytic evidence for a theory of social heuristics and self-interested deliberation. Psychological Science. Stanovich (2005). The robot's rebellion: Finding meaning in the age of Darwin. Tappin, Pennycook & Rand (2020). Thinking clearly about causal inferences of politically motivated reasoning: Why paradigmatic study designs often undermine causal inference. Current Opinion in Behavioral Sciences. Thompson, Turner & Pennycook (2011). Intuition, reason, and metacognition. Cognitive Psychology.