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vor 19 Std. • Nur Abonnent:innen

Backlog to the Future

Kris is back from GopherCon, Matt is back from the lawn, and Fallthrough is back with news: a brand new website and a whole new show, Continue: Go Proposals Edition, a weekly look at Go proposals. The topic for this week's Fallthrough? It's a listener-requested deep dive into what the two of them have actually been building with AI agents. In the regular edition, Kris runs a frontier-model pricing bake-off and comes away fascinated by how dirt cheap Luna is, Matt hands eight well-scoped Linear issues to overnight orbs and wakes up to three merged PRs, and the two land on a shared principle: even when the inference happens in a data center, the harness should run on hardware you own. It all wraps with Matt prototyping an integration by voice on a walk in the park. Expanded edition? We've got one of those! This week it includes Matt's deep dive on AMP betting everything on orbs, a breakdown of the proposal to change Go's proposal process, the one line that gives the whole document away, Kris's redesign built on gates, shepherds, and commitments, a hard conversation about civility and power in Go discourse, and the case for a decentralized Go. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: New Website, New Show: Continue (00:02:28) * Chapter 2: What Kris Built: PHP, Rhetoric Analysis, and Dirt Cheap Luna (00:12:55) * Chapter 3: Matt's Agent Assembly Line: Linear Issues to Merged PRs (00:24:20) * Chapter 4: Harness Hopping: Codex, Claude Code, and Agent Teams (00:33:29) * Chapter 5: Orbin' Time: AMP Bets Everything on Remote Agents [Extended] (00:36:39) * Chapter 6: The Economics Flipped: Intelligence Too Cheap to Meter (00:42:45) * Chapter 7: Keeping the Harness on Your Own Hardware: A Dollar of Orbs (00:49:38) * Chapter 8: Vibe Coding, Skill Atrophy, and Prototyping on a Walk (00:58:45) * Chapter 9: The Proposal Proposal [Extended] (01:08:17) * Chapter 10: We're All Too Busy: The Line That Gives It Away [Extended] (01:20:51) * Chapter 11: Gates, Shepherds, and Commitments: Redesigning the Process [Extended] (01:31:46) * Chapter 12: “We Aren't Doing This”: Authority and Shutting Down Debate [Extended] (01:39:41) * Chapter 13: Civility as a Weapon: Discourse, Power, and the Code of Conduct [Extended] (01:47:29) * Chapter 14: Stuck at Google [Extended] (01:56:20) * Chapter 15: The Case for a Decentralized Go [Extended] (02:09:07) * Epilogue (02:13:02) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
5. Aug. • Nur Abonnent:innen

Vibe and Prejudice

We've got the classic trio of Kris, Matt, and Steve back to discuss Steve's impending cancellation for putting himself in the middle of some drama! Steve gives us a recount of the current saga between Zig, Rust, Bun, Fil-C, and his own programming language, Rue. The group discuss the problems with the drama, especially since it overshadows an amazing technical feat: a million lines of code ported to a new language in a week, then shipped to real customers, with a product that pulls in billions of dollars. Steve also made the mistake of complimenting Zig, which caused a 163 comment dog pile onto him. We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes what it costs a community when the BDFL of a language says your code sucks, why the fear that LLMs can appear to think says more about us than about them, Steve on why you cannot ban a bunch of floats in a text file, Fil-C's promise of memory safe C and the trade-offs its author will not name, the pull request titled make Zig actually memory safe (unlike Rust), Odin not being notable enough, and Steve drops some exclusive new thoughts: agentic development is actually RTS macro versus micro. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: Bun Leaves Zig for Rust, in Public, by Accident (00:02:47) * Chapter 2: Memory Problems, the Unsafe Burndown, and Andrew's Post (00:10:22) * Chapter 3: When the BDFL Says Your Code Sucks [Extended] (00:14:18) * Chapter 4: A Million Lines in a Week (00:18:54) * Chapter 5: Human Thinking Has Been Bad for Us Too [Extended] (00:21:08) * Chapter 6: Fil-C and the Trade-offs Nobody Wants to Name [Extended] (00:27:27) * Chapter 7: Where the Two Flame Wars Collide [Extended] (00:32:27) * Chapter 8: Roo: The Compiler Steve Did Not Write (00:36:06) * Chapter 9: 163 Replies for Complimenting Zig on Hacker News (00:41:20) * Chapter 10: Odin, Wikipedia, and a Toy Language That Is More Notable [Extended] (00:47:56) * Chapter 11: One Hundred Thousand Lines I Have Not Read (00:49:40) * Chapter 12: Compilers Wrote More Assembly Than We Ever Did (00:54:03) * Chapter 13: Vegan Plus Bacon, and the Cure for Binary Thinking (00:56:13) * Chapter 14: Never Arguing About Tabs Versus Spaces Again (01:00:55) * Chapter 15: Write the Documentation, Not the Code Review (01:04:52) * Chapter 16: A Fallthrough Exclusive: Agentic Development Is an RTS [Extended] (01:11:19) * Chapter 17: Effort Is What Makes It Not Slop (01:16:12) * Chapter 18: Still the Chaotic Beginning (01:22:48) * Chapter 19: Critical Thinking Is Curiosity, Not Skepticism (01:26:13) * Epilogue (01:33:28) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Hosts: Matthew Sanabria and Steve Klabnik Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
1. Aug. • Nur Abonnent:innen

Token Maxx: Fury Road

On this week, we've got Kris, Matt, and Dylan! Yes, Dylan is back to talk about GopherCon and his experience as a self declared late adopter of agentic coding. Dylan chairs GopherCon, speaks at it next week, and describes his own AI hockey stick as happening in about two months. Dylan walks through what is on the GopherCon program, then explains his coding agent tipping point: a dependency injection refactor he had written off that Claude finished in an afternoon. But he's not all in yet: he still won't let one robot review and approve another robot's code. From there the conversation turns to the machine underneath: the model as a CPU and the harness as an operating system. The trio then arrives at money and the uncomfortable reality of how expensive tokens are, and whether that matters at all. They also answer an important question: should enterprises be subsidizing the cheap subscription plans individuals enjoy? We've got an Expanded edition for this episode which means we've got extra content! That includes what really happens to your conference proposal when 200 submissions compete for 25 slots, the mystery process that had Kris's Mac humming , the 200 gigabytes of Go module cache hiding on Dylan's drive, agents that shell out to Ruby and Perl when you asked for neither, caveman prompting, and the math on what a $250,000 engineer actually costs per month. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: GopherCon Next Week: Community Day, Filippo, and slog (00:03:25) * Chapter 2: 200 Submissions, 25 Slots: Notes From a Program Chair [Extended] (00:13:10) * Chapter 3: Foot Dragger: The Refactor Claude Finished in an Afternoon (00:20:27) * Chapter 4: Fashionably Late: CoreWeave, and Dylan's AI Hockey Stick (00:29:24) * Chapter 5: Token Hunger and Overzealous Junior Engineers (00:37:47) * Chapter 6: The Harness Is the Operating System (00:43:29) * Chapter 7: Two Skills Worth Writing: Dependabot Chains and Chaos Forensics (00:49:33) * Chapter 8: Why Is My Mac Humming? 200 Gigs of Go, and Rust Doesn't Exist [Extended] (00:56:46) * Chapter 9: Context Is Everything: Bootloaders, Distros, and Second Opinions (01:01:55) * Chapter 10: Agents That Overbuild, and Caveman Prompting [Extended] (01:10:14) * Chapter 11: Thinking Tokens, and Why the Model Is the Product (01:20:06) * Chapter 12: Who Pays for the Tokens: Personal Plans vs Enterprise Tiers (01:22:29) * Chapter 13: Token Costs, Compaction, and the $32,000 Engineer [Extended] (01:30:40) * Chapter 14: If Everybody Does It: Token Maxx and the TOS Problem (01:43:21) * Chapter 15: Talking Matt Into GopherCon, Live (01:52:05) * Epilogue (01:57:36) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Hosts: Matthew Sanabria and Dylan Bourque Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
24. Juli • Nur Abonnent:innen

I, Builder

Kris and Matt have a pretty big question they're trying to answer this week: in the age of AI, what does it actually mean to build something? We start (for real this time!) with the "SDKs are dead" discourse, and whether you still need one when you can just wrap the HTTP calls yourself. Kris then jumps the conversation to Beej's article on what it means to "make" or "build" a thing, he argues that we already lived through this during the analog-to-digital shift in music, photography, and video. Matt adds his own perspective from when he remodeled his kitchen. The duo doesn't stop with just that. In this week's Expanded edition they discuss the "well, actually" brigade and when technical precision helps versus hurts, the "I versus we" of blame, the identities we get sold and comfort chambers we live in, how character limits and engagement incentives turned social media into rage bait, and Matt's take on why "a persistent machine I can run agents on" is just a computer. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Notes: * On Making ( https://beej.us/blog/data/ai-making/ ) Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: SDKs in the Age of AI, Do We Still Need Them? (00:01:43) * Chapter 2: Polarization and the "Well, Actually" Problem [Extended] (00:20:56) * Chapter 3: What Does It Mean to Build Something? (00:31:24) * Chapter 4: From Analog to Digital, AI as Just Another Tool (00:37:48) * Chapter 5: Who Actually Built It? Ownership and Attribution (00:45:17) * Chapter 6: The I Versus the We, Blame, Credit, and Accountability [Extended] (01:00:42) * Chapter 7: The Identities We Were Sold, Boxes and Echo Chambers [Extended] (01:11:43) * Chapter 8: How Social Media Broke Discourse [Extended] (01:16:40) * Chapter 9: Comprehension, Critical Thinking, and the Death of Media [Extended] (01:20:28) * Chapter 10: Cloud Agents, or Just Use a Computer [Extended] (01:28:54) * Epilogue (01:32:00) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
18. Juli • Nur Abonnent:innen

Everything Agentic All at Once

Another week, another deep episode! Kris and Matthew are back and this one goes right off the rails in the best way. What was supposed to be a rundown of the new model landscape turns into a wide-ranging conversation about what AI coding agents actually mean for the people who write software. Matt brings a real dilemma: he had an LLM generate a working program and could not decide whether he still needed to read the code. That kicks off Kris's case for separating validation (did you build the right thing?) from verification (did you build the thing right?), an assertion that we already trust our compilers without reading the machine code, and why prototyping something and throwing it away can be a feature rather than a failure. Matt eventually closes the loop with a story about rewriting an LLM's code from scratch, converging on the exact same design, and finally understanding it. This conversation just kept going and going, and you can listen to the whole thing in the Expanded edition! This week that includes why the US dollar is already a digital currency, a frank conversation about America at its best and worst, why every confident prediction about the future turns out wrong, the mental health toll of clicking approve at two in the morning, and the software identity crisis quietly plaguing many of us. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: Catching Up and the AI News Cycle (00:01:57) * Chapter 2: Do I Need to Read the Code? (00:08:00) * Chapter 3: Trusting the Compiler and the Illusion of Reading Every Line (00:16:05) * Chapter 4: Building It Twice: Prototyping and Throwing It Out (00:26:28) * Chapter 5: Linus Says AI Is Fine; Cloud Code Is Melting My Brain (00:29:20) * Chapter 6: Nobody Understands Computers; Architecture Is the Real Work (00:32:09) * Chapter 7: Oxide: Architecting an Ephemeral Runner Pool, and Learning by Osmosis (00:39:44) * Chapter 8: The US Dollar Is a Digital Currency [Extended] (00:49:18) * Chapter 9: America at Its Best and Worst: History, Race, and Perspective [Extended] (00:53:17) * Chapter 10: Truth Is Contextual, and the Boxes We Force People Into [Extended] (00:59:56) * Chapter 11: Make the Future Instead of Predicting It [Extended] (01:05:46) * Chapter 12: Clicking Approve: AI, Mental Health, and Addiction [Extended] (01:14:56) * Chapter 13: The Software Identity Crisis: Gatekeepers and Finding Your People [Extended] (01:18:08) * Chapter 14: Space for Everyone, Matt's V2 Rewrite, and Comfort in Discomfort (01:31:26) * Chapter 15: The Volatile Era: Adoption Phases, Subscriptions, and Token Christmas (01:40:43) * Epilogue (01:50:43) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
11. Juli • Nur Abonnent:innen

Landlord of the Rings

Kris and Matthew are back for a duo episode, and Kris has a hot take: ownership is terrible. What starts as a conversation about AI subscriptions versus API pricing turns into a wide-ranging discussion about what we actually gain by owning things, from Photoshop to your own compute to your house. Along the way, Kris and Matthew dig into why enterprises are drifting toward per-token pricing, why AMP's headless "own where it runs, rent the model" approach feels like the future, and why a number like "Meta spent 71 trillion tokens" tells you almost nothing about what got built. They also take apart the tired "now anyone can code" claim with a little help from Ratatouille, and land on a simple ask: think through your trade-offs before you repeat the take. We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes a breakdown of flex pricing and overnight agents, a no-mercy ranking of the Claude, Codex, and Gemini ecosystems (plus whose face is more punchable), the hundred-million-token saga of fixing Time Machine backups, Jevons paradox coming for your codebase, and a full teardown of why the IRS can't just send you a bill. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: Fable's Extended Window and a $300 Opus Surprise (00:02:36) * Chapter 2: Subscriptions vs API Pricing: Where the Money Is Heading (00:03:51) * Chapter 3: Flex Pricing, Batch Jobs, and Overnight Agents [Extended] (00:09:29) * Chapter 4: AMP's Headless Agent: Own Where It Runs, Rent the Model (00:11:00) * Chapter 5: Punchable Faces and Fractured Ecosystems [Extended] (00:15:51) * Chapter 6: The Hot Take: Ownership Is Bad (00:22:26) * Chapter 7: IP Hoarding, Palantir, and Why Token Pricing Is Correct (00:26:23) * Chapter 8: Be Honest With Yourself: Own vs Rent Math (00:31:52) * Chapter 9: Token Counts Aren't Output: The Meta 71 Trillion Myth (00:37:29) * Chapter 10: A Hundred Million Tokens to Fix Time Machine [Extended] (00:46:54) * Chapter 11: Local Hardware Trade-offs: Speed, Availability, Budget (00:51:12) * Chapter 12: Jevons Paradox for Code [Extended] (00:54:45) * Chapter 13: Anyone Can Cook, But Not Everyone Can (00:58:32) * Chapter 14: Why the IRS Can't Just Send You a Bill [Extended] (01:04:40) * Chapter 15: Check Your Gut: Chat Search and Apple Intelligence (01:12:48) * Chapter 16: Home Ownership, Raises, and the Chip Shortage (01:16:02) * Epilogue (01:20:00) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
4. Juli • Nur Abonnent:innen

Under Pressure

On this week's episode, Kris and Matthew have a topic: tension. Not the bad kind you learn to avoid, but the productive kind that, like a code smell, is worth stopping to examine. They discuss the challenges of APIs and stability, whether SDKs are actually necessary, and as always a little bit of life advice for our wonderful viewers/listeners. We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes Kris's deep dive on why it's actually called soccer (and the perfect apple-versus-fruit comeback for every European), his love letter to Gerrit and patch-based review, Matthew on why the pull request description means jack and what Jujutsu gets right, Kris's saga of building his own podcast platform out of Supercast, Transistor, and Riverside, and the great "machines that build machines, or is that just CICD?" debate. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube. No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: Heat, the World Cup, and America Through European Eyes (00:00:52) * Chapter 2: Soccer, Rugger, and the Tension of Naming [Extended] (00:05:42) * Chapter 3: Fable Returns and the One Person Agent Operation System (00:08:19) * Chapter 4: Issue Trackers Aren't Dead: Linear, plan.md, and Keeping Context (00:13:30) * Chapter 5: Patches Over Pull Requests, A Gerrit Love Letter [Extended] (00:16:47) * Chapter 6: The Primitives Are Stretching: PRs, JJ, and GitHub's Limits [Extended] (00:21:46) * Chapter 7: Solutions Versus Tools and the Meta Repo Problem (00:27:35) * Chapter 8: Build Your Own Thing: Supercast, Substack, and Raw HTML [Extended] (00:31:32) * Chapter 9: Bending to the Tool: Forks, Filesystems, and the git flow Confession (00:37:15) * Chapter 10: Code Smells and the Oxide API Versioning Tension (00:49:51) * Chapter 11: Stopping the World: Backward Compatibility and the Summer of Hell (00:56:49) * Chapter 12: Do We Still Need SDKs? (01:07:24) * Chapter 13: Machines That Build Machines and What CICD Even Means [Extended] (01:16:26) * Epilogue (01:23:57) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )
26. Juni • Nur Abonnent:innen

The Spy Who Banned Me

It's Fallthrough time! In this episode, Kris, Matthew, and Steve get into the time Steve pointed Anthropic's Fable at a side project he hadn't touched since January and watched it shepherd 95 pull requests in three days, the US government export banning Fable and its sibling Mythos, the insanity of Mythos popping a national security agency's boxes in a matter of hours, and why a software engineer that runs 24/7 for anyone with an account is exactly the kind of thing governments get nervous about. We've got supporter content, of course! This week that includes whether your AI agents should file their bugs in your repo or on a private board where they can make as big a mess as they want, the model that forged itself a cookie to get around a testing problem and what it means for an AI to actually understand being a software developer, Steve's deliberately-out-of-context claim that millennials are the only people who know how computers work, Trump signing a quantum cryptography order while openly asking what the whole thing even is, Kris's year-long sales tax rabbit hole where nobody can agree where a person physically is, and the Diet Coke can math that says one exploding rocket is about one percent of an hour of making aluminum. Not a supporter yet? Fix that today by heading over to https://fallthrough.fm/subscribe where you'll get not only extra content but also higher quality audio. Sign up today! If you prefer to watch this episode, you can view it on YouTube: https://youtu.be/h6Ve7WKIQVc ( https://youtu.be/h6Ve7WKIQVc ). No episode of the aftershow this week. We'll have more aftershow episodes soon! In the meantime, catch up on previous episodes at https://break.show. Thanks for tuning in and happy listening! Table of Contents: * Prologue (00:00:00) * Chapter 1: Burning the Whole Allotment, 95 PRs in Three Days (00:01:56) * Chapter 2: Beads vs Linear, Where Agents Keep Their Bugs [Extended] (00:07:24) * Chapter 3: Is Fable Coming Back? Export Controls and the NSA Hack (00:09:32) * Chapter 4: Past the Custom Harness, a Model That Shepherds Its Own PRs [Extended] (00:15:06) * Chapter 5: A Software Engineer in Every Pocket, Running 24/7 (00:19:57) * Chapter 6: Anthropic Can't Explain Itself, Dario and the Death of Media Training (00:22:21) * Chapter 7: Get Young People in Government? Millennials and Who Knows Computers [Extended] (00:25:46) * Chapter 8: Legislating What You Don't Understand, Trump's Quantum Order [Extended] (00:32:02) * Chapter 9: I'm Already Busy, Civic Ambivalence and the Tax Code Nobody Gets [Extended] (00:38:58) * Chapter 10: From Housing to Coke Cans, the Math of Individual Action [Extended] (00:46:14) * Chapter 11: 400 Saved or 600 Dead, Framing, Harm, and the Wealth Tax [Extended] (00:48:48) * Chapter 12: Echo Chambers, Anti-AI Art, and the LinkedIn Performance [Extended] (00:58:37) * Chapter 13: People Are People, Contradictions and Closing the Loop (01:08:32) * Epilogue (01:12:49) Host: Kris Brandow Co-Host: Matthew Sanabria and Steve Klabnik Producer: Kris Brandow Beats: Breakmaster Cylinder Socials: * Website ( https://fallthrough.fm/ ) * Bluesky ( https://bsky.app/profile/fallthrough.fm ) * Threads ( https://www.threads.net/@fallthroughfm ) * X/Twitter ( https://x.com/fallthroughfm ) * LinkedIn ( https://linkedin.com/company/fallthrough ) * Instagram ( https://www.instagram.com/fallthroughfm/ ) * TikTok ( https://www.tiktok.com/@fallthroughfm ) * Changelog Zulip ( https://changelog.zulipchat.com/#narrow/channel/481259-fallthrough ) * Gophers Slack ( https://gophers.slack.com/archives/C085RJ99RFT )

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