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Colin Young, Bo Lueders, Knotfest

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HardLore Podcast • Hosted by Colin Young (Twitching Tongues, God’s Hate), featuring in-depth, biographical interviews with our favorite musicians from the worlds of hardcore/punk/metal & beyond...

vor 3 Tagen

Brooke Smith: Silence of the Lambs, Grey’s Anatomy & The Infamous WARZONE WOMEN

This is another piece of HardLore history in the making, as we’re joined by our first ever actor, the great Brooke Smith of Silence of the Lambs, Grey’s Anatomy, Bates Motel and more! I am once again joined, very appropriately, by Alec Faber of Holy Blade, Twitching Tongues & God’s Hate (and formerly of the Reel Deal podcast with… me) Long before she graced the silver screen as the iconic Catherine Martin in Silence of the Lambs , you could find her romping around all over the lower east side as one of the infamous WARZONE WOMEN, and a staple of 1980’s New York Hardcore. She spent the golden decade of NYHC taking legendary photos of bands like Agnostic Front, Bad Brains, Cro-Mags, Underdog and more, as documented in her incredible book Sunday Matinee. We get into her life as a legendary publicist’s daughter, befriending and falling out with the Cro-Mags, the informal formation of the Warzone Women, growing out of hardcore just as acting started to become more serious, her life changing by being in one of the greatest movies of all time, AGAIN with Grey’s Anatomy, and everything in between… An incredibly fun conversation with a genuine legend. Thanks to Brooke for joining us. _______________ HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy. Shot, Mixed & Edited by ⁠Steven Grise⁠ Title sequence by ⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠ • Join the ⁠HARDLORE PATREON⁠ to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episode. • Join the ⁠HARDLORE DISCORD⁠. • Head over to THE MUSIC ZOO for all of your guitar needs! Get 15% off a Dunable custom with code HARDLORE. • Visit GOOD SNOOTS DOG RESCUE to support the fostering and rescuing of dogs all over California. _______________ 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:39 - Brooke Smith 00:04:09 - Growing Up 00:06:39 - Women in Early New York Hardcore 00:09:28 - Picking Up Photography 00:10:33 - Sunday Matinee 00:12:54 - The Cro-Mags 00:17:32 - Best Mosher in Early 80s NYHC 00:18:40 - "New" Bands That Formed In Real Time & Changed Things 00:22:12 - Hardcore in the 80s vs. Now 00:23:49 - The Warzone Women, Straight Edge, & Her Infamous Pool Party 00:27:33 - Brooke Flips The Script on us smh 00:29:00 - People & Details in Sunday Matinee That Stood Out to Her 00:31:48 - Phones at Shows Now, The Ramones 00:33:49 - Agnostic Front & The Donahue Show 00:36:05 - Hare Krishna 00:37:57 - Modern Day Equivalent of 1980s CBGBs (Shut Down the Internet) 00:41:04 - Close Calls at CBGBs 00:42:28 - Playing Bass In A Band with Carl the Mosher 00:43:42 - Pardon This Interruption… 00:46:22 - The Misfits & Growing out of Hardcore in 1990 00:50:42 - Acting & Hardcore Intersecting 00:53:05 - Getting the Acting Bug 00:54:43 - Developing a Project With Elgin James 00:56:33 - Silence Of The Lambs 01:05:48 - Friendship with Ted Levine 01:08:08 - Brooke's Silence of the Lambs Journals, Vanya on 42nd St 01:12:37 - The Roles That Could Have Been 01:16:38 - Worst Career Advice 01:18:55 - Grey’s Anatomy 01:29:25 - Jeff Buckley 01:33:08 - Motherhood 01:42:06 - Every Character Goes To See AF 01:45:10 - Top 4 Hardcore Records
9. Juli

Chris Conley: Saves The Day, New Jersey Hardcore & Overcoming Hitting Rock Bottom

We're joined his week to by Chris Conley, the founder, vocalist, and songwriter of Saves The Day for a comprehensive, career retrospective conversation… Featuring special guest co-host, Dr. Britty Drake of Pity Sex. In this true 3.5 hour epic, we start from the beginning and deep deep into Chris and STD’s entire history… From discovering punk through free tickets to a Rancid show, instinctively writing music the second he touched a guitar, Sefler’s humble origin and demo quickly evolving into Saves The Day, working with Steve Evetts and Equal Vision records, Lifetime’s influence on the early days and Can’t Slow Down, dropping out of school to tour on Through Being Cool, taking a leap into the mainstream with Stay What You Are, the harsh reality check of In Reverie, all the way up to feeling “resurrected” by his family in 2026 and finding new ways to handle his lifelong battle with depression. A true feast of information for any fan of the band, Chris, hardcore, punk, emo or beyond… Thank you to Chris and Britty for joining us. ___________ HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy. Shot, Mixed & Edited by Steven Grise Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf • Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episode. • Join the HARDLORE DISCORD. • Get 10% off GUILTY PARTY site-wide with code HARDLORE and grab some of our favorite clothing brands of all time. • Get 10% off MILLS VINTAGE site-wide with code HARDLORE. • Visit GUITAR SANCTUARY for all of your guitar, amp, or pedal needs. 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:22 - Chris Conley 00:02:24 - Discovering Music in New Jersey 00:08:58 - Developing His Songwriting Chops 00:11:24 - Everything Comes From Hardcore 00:13:47 - The Show That Changed It All... 00:19:09 - New Jersey Word Association 00:28:56 - How Sefler Became SAVES THE DAY 00:34:13 - Saves The Day's First Hardcore Show 00:36:48 - Sefler 00:38:20 - Saves The Day's Relationship With Steve Evetts 00:41:44 - Equal Vision Records 00:43:21 - CAN'T SLOW DOWN 00:51:38 - Pardon This Interruption... 00:55:04 - Favorite Fret 00:57:37 - Evolving as a Teenage Lyricist 01:04:41 - First U.S. Tour with Bane 01:10:08 - The Story Behind "I'm Sorry I'm Leaving" 01:12:22 - Attending NYU 01:15:26 - Dropping out of NYU 01:16:57 - Can't Slow Down Songs that Resonate with Chris Now 01:18:20 - "Blindfolded" 01:20:35 - "Always Ten Feet Tall" 01:21:04 - THROUGH BEING COOL 01:30:50 - The Iconic Through Being Cool Album Cover 01:32:26 - "Shoulder to the Wheel" 01:35:31 - Saves the Day's First Consistent Lineup 01:37:24 - Shoulder To The Wheel Music Video 01:38:31 - Pop Punk vs. Emo 01:45:34 - "Banned From The Back Porch" 01:49:44 - Tours On Through Being Cool 01:51:39 - Vocal Conditioning & Early Voice Changes 01:55:12 - Reflecting on Through Being Cool 01:57:10 - "Sell My Old Clothes, I'm Off To Heaven" 01:58:06 - STAY WHAT YOU ARE 02:01:41 - "At Your Funeral" & Working With Rob Schnapf 02:07:53 - Chris' Voice Changing 02:09:15 - Stay What You Are 25 Years Later 02:11:06 - Growth Over The Years 02:19:20 - Criticism After In Reverie 02:22:19 - IN REVERIE 02:24:39 - Dreamworks 02:27:38 - In Reverie's Cursed Roll Out and Release 02:30:50 - Fatherhood Changing His Perspective 02:31:41 - UPS AND DOWNS 02:34:50 - Trilogy Chapter 1: SOUND THE ALARM 02:43:05 - Formulating the Idea for This Trilogy 02:45:50 - Trilogy Chapter 2: UNDER THE BOARDS 02:47:31 - Touring On The Records 02:50:28 - Trillogy Chapter 3: DAYBREAK (GOATED) 02:54:54 - Dealing With Criticism 02:58:10 - S/T 02:59:51 - Re-Signing to Equal Vision 03:02:58 - Five Year Gap Before 9 03:07:51 - Feeling "Resurrected" in 2026 Thanks to His Wife 03:15:15 - Next Chapter For Chris & Saves The Day 03:18:45 - Top 4 Hardcore Records
2. Juli

Jade Puget: AFI, Creating Their Signature Sound & Surviving Mainstream Success

In this highly anticipated next chapter with one of our favorite bands, HardLore is finally joined by Jade Puget: the man who was instrumental in defining the iconic AFI sound. Featuring special guest co-host Alec Faber of God’s Hate, Twitching Tongues and Holy Blade. Following our legendary two part special with Davey Havok, we’re honored to share Jade’s side of the greater AFI story… Starting from the beginning with Jade discovering punk & hardcore in Ukiah, CA alongside his brother Smith, his days in Redemption 87, joining AFI and creating their definitive sound with his work on Black Sails in the Sunset, the surprising legacy of the All Hallows EP, his (and the band’s) frustrations with Nitro Records, the opportune timing of Art of Drowning, the cultural phenomenon of Sing the Sorrow and continuing success of Decemberunderground, the agony of Crash Love, the triumph of Burials, all the way to re-defining the AFI sound with Silver Bleeds the Black Sun. It was an honor and a joy to finally chat about all things AFI and hardcore with Jade, and we can only hope you enjoy this 3 hour chat as much as we did. ______________ HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy. Shot, edited and mixed by Steven Grise Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf • Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes • Join the HARDLORE DISCORD • Get 15% off DUNABLE GUITARS with code HARDLORE. Seriously. A guitar. What are you waiting for??? • Get 15% off TIMELESS COFFEE site-wide and grab a bag of my favorite beans and the best vegan cookies I’ve ever had: ______________ 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:38 - Jade Puget 00:03:10 - Discovering Punk and Hardcore in Ukiah 00:06:28 - Skateboarding & The Muhammad Ollie 00:12:57 - Straight Edge & The Way It Is Compilation 00:18:05 - Redemption 87 00:24:21 - Becoming Aware of AFI 00:28:04 - Joining AFI & Writing BLACK SAILS IN THE SUNSET 00:34:30 - Jade’s Favorite Fret & Restraint in Songwriting 00:38:03 - The AFI Sound 00:43:10 - All Hallows EP 00:51:01 - AFI, Danzig, Samhain Tour 00:57:38 - Art Of Drowning 01:06:36 - Commercial Success And Overall Shock 01:09:20 - SING THE SORROW & Slowing Down the AFI Sound 01:13:20 - Jerry Finn & Butch Vig 01:21:21 - Sing The Sorrow’s Electronics (Fruity Loops) 01:26:48 - Leaving Song 2 & Initially Hearing Sing the Sorrow Finished 01:31:34 - MTV New Years Eve With Three Six Mafia 01:32:59 - Leaving Song 2 Video 01:37:46 - Sing The Sorrow’s Release Into DECEMBERUNDERGROUND 01:44:17 - Picking the Singles for DECEMBERUNDERGROUND 01:47:59 - Butch Vig Declining to Work on the Album 01:50:54 - Writing 120 Songs & The “Hardcore Club” 01:57:00 - The Whirlwind of Decemberunderground into the Agony of CRASH LOVE 02:01:15 - Blaqk Audio/Crash Love Coinciding and “Stripping Down” AFI 02:11:51 - Sing The Sorrow At The Forum 02:17:25 - The Triumph of BURIALS 02:24:13 - The Blood Album & Producing AFI 02:28:18 - Silver Bleeds the Black Sun & Evolving the AFI Sound 02:39:22 - BODIES & AFI in 2020 02:43:05 - Birdlegs & Getting His Revelation Star 02:46:23 - Jade's Insane Chipotle Order lololololol 02:51:51 - Top 4 Hardcore Records 02:54:22 - A Les Paul Epilogue For Bo
25. Juni

Patrick Walker of WARNING & 40 Watt Sun’s First Ever Podcast Interview

It is my tremendous honor to be joined by Patrick Walker of Warning and 40 Watt Sun for what is not only first ever non-print interview, but also HardLore's first ever 1 on 1 interview with a guest. In this appropriately intimate chat, we discuss his humble upbringing in Harlow, Essex UK.From the Jackson 5 and Tears For Fears to Revelation and Saint Vitus, we discover how Patrick's emotional connection with music flourished, and how he evolved into someone i've always considered to be one of the most personal and deliberate songwriters in the world. We learn the canonical standing of Warning and 40 Watt Sun in Patrick's point of view, the 20 year lasting legacy of "Watching From A Distance" and why now was finally time to return to Warning for "Rituals of Shame." After years of championing Patrick's work both on and off HardLore, it was an honor not only to have this chat, but to share more about someone whose work I admire so much. Thanks for watching. _______________ HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy. Shot, mixed and edited by ⁠Steven Grise⁠ Title sequence by ⁠Nicholas Marzluf⁠ • Join the ⁠HARDLORE PATREON⁠ to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. • Join the ⁠HARDLORE DISCORD • Get 15% off DUNABLE GUITARS with code HARDLORE. Seriously. A guitar. What are you waiting for??? 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:12 - Patrick Walker 00:02:47 - Finding Music in Harlow, Essex 00:04:59 - Doom Metal & Discovering the Guitar 00:09:41 - Emotional Connections to Music 00:15:22 - WARNING 00:18:41 - Revelation Looms Demo 00:22:59 - Blessed By The Sabbath 00:23:48 - The Strength To Dream 00:27:07 - Patrick's Favorite Fret 00:30:39 - Re-Approaching Warning 00:33:10 - Watching From A Distance 00:43:20 - The "Footprints Moment" 00:45:42 - Vulnerability in Public-Facing Art 00:48:27 - Pardon This Interruption... 00:49:48 - Touring In America / Patrick's Love of Food 00:56:51 - Patrick on Modern Doom Metal 00:58:17 - 40 WATT SUN 01:09:33 - Changes In Touring Solo 01:12:16 - Rituals of Shame 01:23:27 - Patrick on Spirituality 01:25:29 - Top 4 Doom Metal Records
18. Juni

Pete Morcey: 100 Demons, Blood For Blood & The Evolution of Connecticut Hardcore

Destiny has come: After being officially crowned the hardest hardcore band of all time in our official tournament bracket… We’re finally joined by the great Pete Morcey, vocalist of 100 DEMONS for a long form, sit-down interview. We’re ALSO joined by special guest co-host Dan Seely of King Nine, for his historic 5th full-length appearance on a HardLore episode. We start from the beginning of Pete’s nearly 40 year musical career, from making the “definitive American oi record” in Forced Reality, spearheading heavy hardcore in Connecticut with Higher Force, joining 100 Demons and writing the iconic self-titled record, his dark folk masterpiece that is Murmur’s The Boundless Black, all the way to now singing for Blood For Blood, and making 100 Demons’ first record in 22 years, Embrace the Black Light. Thanks to Pete, Dan, and the Detroit Masonic Temple for having us. __________ HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy. Edited by Steven Grise (https://www.instagram.com/iamonenineseven/) • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf (https://www.instagram.com/marzluf/) • Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepod • Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef • Get 10% off GUILTY PARTY site-wide with code HARDLORE and grab some of our favorite clothing brands of all time: https://www.guiltyparty.co/ • Get 10% off MILLS VINTAGE site-wide with code HARDLORE: https://www.millsvintageusa.com/ • Get tickets for LOUDER THAN LIFE Festival! Can’t wait to see you all there: https://louderthanlifefestival.com/. ________________ 00:00:00 - Start 00:01:22 - Pete Morcey 00:02:51 - Finding Punk & Hardcore in Connecticut 00:17:50 - FORCED REALITY, Pete’s First Band, Defining American Oi! 00:14:28 - Jocko Willink & The Connecticut Skinhead Crew 00:29:00 - Forced Reality S/T & Tours 00:33:22 - Sean Martin 00:34:57 - HIGHER FORCE, Connecticut’s First HARD Band 00:39:42 - Higher Force’s Very Confusing Discography 00:43:08 - Pete Morcey: Classically Trained Opera Singer 00:48:00 - The End of Higher Force & Beginning of 100 DEMONS 00:51:50 - Morcey’s Restaurant & The Tuna Pita 00:54:00 - Pardon this interruption… 00:57:03 - The Lost Higher Force LP 00:59:27 - 100 DEMONS - Self-Titled 01:08:36 - His Fathers Son to Cold Wind of the Crossroads 01:14:50 - Recording New 100 Demons after 22 Years 01:21:00 - Larry Dwyer’s Cinnamon Challenge 01:24:24 - Growing as a Vocalist & Lyricist 01:31:17 - Pete’s Haunted House 01:37:35 - A Visit From Bo 01:46:55 - Joining Blood for Blood 01:54:50 - MURMUR (Pete’s Masterpiece) 02:03:24 - IG! And the IGfits! 02:10:13 - Pete’s Most Personal Creative Endeavor 02:20:55 - Top 4 Hardcore Records
11. Juni

Ray Cappo: Youth of Today, Shelter, Straight Edge & The Search for Spirituality

We’re back… HardLore returns with a very special episode in honor of our late co-host, friend, and brother, Bo Lueders. Youth of Today was Bo’s favorite hardcore band of all time, and a constant through-line on this show since the beginning. Now, we’re finally joined by YoT/Shelter vocalist and trailblazer of straight edge as a movement: RAY CAPPO, for a 3.5 hour career retrospective interview. It doesn’t end there, as our first ever guest co-host is also extra special, we’re joined by Harms Way vocalist James Pligge (aka “Youth Crew James”) to round out this perfect tribute to our fallen friend. We start from the very beginning in Danbury, CT, where Ray and Violent Children got a historic head-start from an opportune visit to a radio station, discovering Hare Krishna through Harley Flanagan, meeting Porcell and evolving into Youth of Today and spreading straight edge all around the world, thoroughly BREAK DOWN the Youth of Today discography, founding Revelation AND Equal Vision Records, and the spiritual path that lead to the end of Youth of Today and the humble origin of Shelter. The goal remains the same, carry on the love and dedication for our favorite bands that we’ve shown every week the last 4 years… But with the new mission of honoring Bo every step of the way. Enjoy. _______________ HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy. Shot, mixed and edited by Steven Grise Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf • Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. • Join the HARDLORE DISCORD • Get 10% off MILLS VINTAGE site-wide with code HARDLORE • Get 10% off GUILTY PARTY site-wide with code HARDLORE and grab some of our favorite clothing brands of all time. ______________ 00:00:00 - Start 00:03:09 - Discovering Punk And Hardcore 00:10:00 - Violent Children & Darryl on the Radio 00:17:50 - Harley Flanagan & Reflex From Pain 00:29:24 - Porcell 00:33:25 - Hare Krishna, Straight Edge & The Lower East Side 00:39:09 - Youth of Today 00:50:29 - Pardon This Interruption 00:53:04 - Can’t Close My Eyes 01:11:41 - Youth Crew as a Movement 01:12:46 - We Just Might 01:22:21 - Touring on Can’t Close My Eyes 01:26:56 - Wishingwell Records 01:29:42 - Break Down The Walls 01:40:15 - Record Collecting & Trade Currency 01:50:19 - Revelation Records 01:57:00 - Break Down The Walls Cont. 02:10:30 - Break Down The Walls Tour 02:21:12 - The Girl Next Door Soundtrack 02:22:25 - We're Not In This Alone 02:39:48 - “No More” Music Video 02:45:21 - We're Not In This Alone Tour, Formation of Shelter 02:55:14 - Renouncing the World via Shelter 03:02:09 - Equal Vision Records & Krishnacore 03:05:00 - Mantra 03:18:21 - Shelter After Mantra 03:26:24 - Breaking Edge 03:33:04 - Top 4 Hardcore Records of All Time
23. Apr.

Bo’s Final Episode: HardLore Investigates the JFK Assassination

The time has sadly come for our final episode with our beloved late Bo Lueders... But very poetically, it is one where perhaps his passions and interests were all on display like never before, and that he describes as the day he's been waiting for his entire life: We visited the historic site in Dallas, TX where President John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22nd, 1963. We hit all of the local relevant hotspots in the area, he shares his theories & breaks down the historical facts (and fictions) we talk to a few lifetime Dallas locals about their views on one of the biggest news stories in American history... and then we walk off into the Sunset together, after 4 beautiful years of fulfilling our mission. This episode has nothing to do with hardcore music, or really music at all, but hardcore music brought us together to share our passions with the world and I'm so grateful that we got to capture this one for him as the perfect final sendoff. Stick around 'til the end. Love you Bo. _______________ 00:00:00 - Start 01:15 - The Kennedy Assassination, Dealey Plaza, Lee Harvey Oswald 13:19 - Jimmy Files and The Fence 18:23 - The Grassy Knoll 20:26 - Ron Washington, Dallas Local 24:43 - The Underpass and The Autopsy 27:40 - Marshal Evans, Author 37:52 - The 6th Floor Museum 38:34 - The Bridge 40:18 - Goodbye, Bo #HARDLORE #jfk HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
16. Apr.

DRAIN & HardLore Behind The Scenes: "...Is Your Friend" Tour 2026

A few weeks ago, Bo & I had the special privilege of traveling to Nashville to get an inside look into the making of DRAIN's "...Is Your Friend" U.S. tour with No Pressure, Haywire and Secret World, via our friends at Monster Energy. This was our first OFFICIAL "assignment" on behalf of Monster since we started working with them officially in January, and it's a bittersweet example of what was to come of this dream partnership. We're so grateful for the memories that this has created since losing our beloved Bohan Lueders, for what has now become his penultimate HardLore episode ever. We spent several days with the band & their crew made up entirely of hardcore musicians from bands like Rotting Out, Cosmic Joke, One Step Closer and more to give you all an inside look at their gear & production. We hope you enjoy this unique episode that was a first and last for us as a duo, where Bo’s unique knowledge and passion for gear was on full display. Go see them near you soon. Head to hardloremerch.com to grab a Bo memorial t-shirt for an amazing cause that we can't wait to tell you more about soon... ________________ 00:01:44 - Chapter 1: DRAIN, Before The Storm 00:06:29 - Chapter 2: HardLore Hardware Highlight, Drain's Gear 00:48:25 - Chapter 3: They're The Crew, Meet Drain's Touring Crew 01:17:24 - Chapter 4: Drain & Co.'s Top 4 Hardcore Records 01:22:10 - Chapter 5: Day One of Tour in Dallas Texas HardLore: A Knotfest Series, Fueled by Monster Energy Edited by Steven Grise • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes. Join the HARDLORE DISCORD for community discussions and to participate in our future Q&A episodes. FOLLOW HARDLORE: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, SPOTIFY, APPLE FOLLOW COLIN: INSTAGRAM FOLLOW BO: INSTAGRAM, TWITTER For sponsorship opportunities, email us! info@hardlorepod.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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