IndoctriNation Rachel Bernstein

Returning guests, Rachel Holdt and Elizabeth Humble are sisters who were raised in an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church they’ve now identified as a Cult, Cornerstone Baptist Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado. In 1998, Rachel was the whistleblower instrumental in the eventual arrest and criminal conviction of Charles Dean Miller, the son of a pastor who would become known to be a decades-long serial pedophile. After multiple generations and dozens of victims corroborated law enforcement investigations, his sexual abuse of underage girls was discovered. Liz and Rachel’s forthcoming memoir tentatively titled “The King James Virgin and Other Myths of the IFB” tells this story.

Rachel and Liz are returning to the show to continue telling the story they began last week and offer further insights into their harrowing experiences in the hopes that they may help listeners who may have been through similar traumas. So if you have not already, please go back and listen to last week’s episode where they introduce their story.


Before You Go: Rachel explains the inherent danger of religious ideologies that claim women's bodies are responsible for men's actions.



IndoctriNation Podcast Discussion Group:
www.facebook.com/groups/2359873534281759/

All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here:
www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html

All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:

www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.html

To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:

www.patreon.com/indoctrination

Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:

www.paypal.me/indoctrination

Connect with us on Social Media:

Twitter:
twitter.com/_indoctrination

Facebook:
www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast

Tik Tok:
www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast

Instagram:
www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/

YouTube:
www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft

You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes

Rachel Holdt and Elizabeth Humble are sisters who were raised in an Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church they’ve now identified as a Cult, Cornerstone Baptist Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado. In 1998, Rachel was the whistleblower instrumental in the eventual arrest and criminal conviction of Charles Dean Miller, the son of a pastor who would become known to be a decades-long serial pedophile. After law enforcement investigations were corroborated by multiple generations and dozens of victims, his sexual abuse of underage girls was discovered. Liz and Rachel’s forthcoming memoir tentatively titled “The King James Virgin and Other Myths of the IFB” tells this story.


Rachel currently resides in Southern California, where she works as an educator in the field of biomechanics through the modalities of dance and pilates. Her extraordinary experiences growing up in an oppressively restrictive environment that harshly policed the female body, inform her teaching philosophy through a lens of empathy and inclusion of all bodies.


Elizabeth currently lives in Oklahoma near her three daughters and two granddaughters, where she works as a barber, seamstress, and food truck owner. She also sits on the board of the Stillwater Downtown Association. Elizabeth attended Nazarene Bible College and later obtained a business management degree following her barber schooling at New Mexico Junior College.



In this first half of a two-part conversation, Rachel and Elizabeth provide background on their childhood as members of an IFB-based cult, offering insights on the effects of restrictive environments, psychological and sexual abuse, and the lasting impacts these abuses had on their adult lives.



Before You Go: Rachel points out how rare it is for children raised in cults to maintain healthy relationships with their family members.



IndoctriNation Podcast Discussion Group:
www.facebook.com/groups/2359873534281759/

All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here:
www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html

All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:

www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.html

To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:

www.patreon.com/indoctrination

Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:

www.paypal.me/indoctrination

Connect with us on Social Media:

Twitter:
twitter.com/_indoctrination

Facebook:
www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast

Tik Tok:
www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast

Instagram:
www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/

YouTube:
www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft

You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the full episode at:
www.patreon.com/indoctrination



In this solo bonus episode, Rachel shares her insights on the "Love Has Won" cult, led by Amy Carlson who is referred to within the group as "Mother God". Rachel points out the commonalities that Amy's manipulative leadership shares with other cult leaders.



Thanks to all of our supporters for making this episode possible!!

Jeff Guinn is the author of the new book Waco: David Koresh, the Branch Davidians, and a Legacy of Rage. He has written several other best-selling books including; The Life & Times of Charles Manson, and War on the Border. Jeff was the co-executive producer alongside Leonardo DiCaprio on the TV docuseries "Terror in the Jungle," which is based on his book, The Road to Jonestown. He currently resides in Fort Worth, Texas, where he is a member of the Texas Literary Hall of Fame and a two-time winner of the Texas Book Award.



In this fascinating conversation, Jeff points out the common personality traits among the cult leaders he's studied in depth in his work, including Charles Manson, David Koresh, and Jim Jones. Throughout the discussion, Rachel confirms Jeff's understanding by relating what she's learned from her clients who have survived cultic experiences.



Before You Go: Rachel explains why governmental organizations are often inept when dealing with cults and can often be an impediment to justice because of their ignorance and arrogance.



Jeff's new book Waco: David Koresh, the Branch Davidians, and a Legacy of Rage is available here:
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Waco/Jeff-Guinn/9781982186104



IndoctriNation Podcast Discussion Group:
www.facebook.com/groups/2359873534281759/

All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here:
www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html

All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:

www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.html

To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:

www.patreon.com/indoctrination

Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:

www.paypal.me/indoctrination

Connect with us on Social Media:

Twitter:
twitter.com/_indoctrination

Facebook:
www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast

Tik Tok:
www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast

Instagram:
www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/

YouTube:
www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft

You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes

Scott M. Coley is a lecturer in philosophy at Mount St. Mary’s University in Emmitsburg, Maryland. His research interests include philosophy of religion, moral epistemology, and political philosophy. He is the author of the upcoming book Ministers of Propaganda: Truth, Power, and the Ideology of the Religious Right which unravels the rhetoric and biblical proof-texting that support Christo-authoritarianism: the ideology that presses Christian theology into the service of authoritarian politics.



In this highly informative conversation, Scott provides insights into the theological interpretations that Christian Evangacalism relies on to justify its authoritarian stances and how they are used to influence public policy in the U.S.



Before You Go: Rachel explains how using the bible as the one true source of morality and justice limits a broader understanding of the world.



Scott’s book is available for pre-order here:
https://www.eerdmans.com/9781467466004/ministers-of-propaganda/



IndoctriNation Podcast Discussion Group:
www.facebook.com/groups/2359873534281759/

All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here:
www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html

All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:

www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/videos.html

To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:

www.patreon.com/indoctrination

Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:

www.paypal.me/indoctrination

Connect with us on Social Media:

Twitter:
twitter.com/_indoctrination

Facebook:
www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast

Tik Tok:
www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast

Instagram:
www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/

YouTube:
www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft

You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the full episode at:

https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination



In this solo bonus episode, Rachel offers her insights on the benefits, but also the dangers of survivors offering forgiveness to their abusers. She outlines scenarios where it is and where it sometimes is not healthy, so that survivors can weigh the options and be empowered to do what is best for their own healing.


National Domestic Violence Hotline
800-799-7233
SMS: Text BEGIN to 88788
Hours: 24/7. Languages: English, Spanish, and interpretation service


Thanks so much to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!!