The 4th Wave in Therapy

Dr Peta Stapleton
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In a world where mental health has taken center stage, a new wave of innovation is sweeping through the therapy field. Join me as we embark on a journey uncovering the latest breakthroughs, emerging technologies, and pioneering approaches that are redefining the way we heal, grow and thrive. This is the 4th Wave of Therapy.

  1. 23. Juli

    Lynne McTaggert

    This interview with Lynne McTaggart explored her pioneering research on quantum energy fields and intention-based healing. McTaggart explained her concept of "The Field" - a quantum energy field where subatomic particles exchange information and energy, demonstrating how this field can be harnessed for healing through group intention experiments. She detailed her work conducting 42 experiments, including studies showing significant results in plant growth and reductions in violence in war-torn areas, with 38 experiments showing positive effects. Lynne discussed her "Power of Eight" methodology, where small groups of 6-12 people focus intention on specific outcomes, sharing examples of remarkable healings including cases of blindness and genetic liver disease. The conversation also covered her upcoming course "Think Yourself Young" which focuses on cellular rejuvenation through mental processes and community engagement, challenging cultural attitudes toward aging, particularly for women.

    Lynne McTaggert

  2. 22. Juli

    Aimie Apigian

    This episode of "The Fourth Wave in Therapy" featured a conversation between Peta and Dr. Amy Apigian, a double board-certified physician in preventative and addiction medicine and leading voice in trauma biology. Dr. Apigian shared how her personal experience with grief and chronic fatigue syndrome in 2014 led her to discover the connection between trauma and physical health, prompting her to develop a body-based approach to healing trauma. She explained her three-energy levels theory (calm and alive, high energy, and low energy) and how the nervous system shifts between these states in response to perceived danger, using the metaphor of a turtle retreating into its shell during overwhelming situations. Dr. Apigian discussed the importance of allowing time for physiological recovery and challenged the cultural emphasis on resilience, defining true strength as the ability to feel and process emotions rather than pushing through difficulties. She outlined her approach of "precision nervous system healing" which integrates mind, body, and biology assessment to create personalized healing plans, and expressed frustration with the medical field's slow adoption of trauma-informed care despite early research on adverse childhood experiences.

    Aimie Apigian

  3. 22. Juli

    Alice W. Lee

    This podcast episode featured Dr. Alice Lee, a holistic and integrative psychiatrist practicing in Stamford, Connecticut, discussing her journey into energy psychology and medicine. Dr. Lee explained how she first encountered Thought Field Therapy (TFT) in 2003 through Mark Botnick, which led her to develop criteria-based energy testing techniques that go beyond traditional muscle testing. She described how energy testing can provide real-time feedback about patient responses to interventions, including the impact of psychiatric medication withdrawal on digestion and nutrient absorption. Dr. Lee shared her experience helping patients safely withdraw from psychiatric medications using integrated approaches combining energy medicine, functional medicine, and energy testing. The conversation explored how energy testing could potentially enhance other energy psychology modalities like EFT by providing objective assessment tools beyond subjective distress scales. Dr. Lee expressed hope for the future of holistic psychiatry, including destigmatizing mental illness and moving beyond symptom-based labeling toward addressing underlying causes of mental health issues.

    Alice W. Lee

  4. 22. Juli

    Anna Yusim

    This podcast episode featured Dr. Anna Yusim, a board-certified psychiatrist and lecturer at Yale Medical School, discussing the integration of spirituality into mental health treatment. Dr. Anna shared her personal journey from traditional medical training to embracing spiritual principles, including experiences with predictive dreams and psychic phenomena that led her to explore alternative healing approaches. She explained how spirituality can enhance mental health through concepts like spiritual health, which involves resilience and emotional maturity in facing life challenges. The discussion covered practical ways therapists can incorporate spiritual elements into treatment, including taking spiritual histories from patients and exploring various spiritual practices. Dr. Anna emphasized that younger generations are driving a paradigm shift in medicine toward more holistic approaches, and she expressed hope for reducing suffering and expanding joy through better integration of spiritual practices in mental health care.

    Anna Yusim

  5. 22. Juli

    Denise Duffield-Thomas

    In this episode, Peta and Denise dig into why so many women in the helping professions struggle to charge for their work. Denise traces these money blocks back to deep-seated beliefs about the value of helping others, rooted in the historical roles women have played as caregivers and "wise women." Peta adds that this isn't just a mindset issue—it's also a training gap, noting that even academic programs preparing people for helping professions rarely teach business skills or financial management. The conversation moves into practical territory, with Denise sharing personal experiences and strategies for building discernment and self-awareness around money, plus tips for setting boundaries around pricing. Throughout, both hosts emphasize the need for more open, judgment-free conversations about finances—especially for women navigating guilt around getting paid for meaningful work.

    Denise Duffield-Thomas

  6. 22. Juli

    Eben Alexander

    This podcast episode features Dr. Eben Alexander discussing his near-death experience (NDE) in 2008, when he was in a week-long coma from a deadly E. coli bacterial meningitis infection. During his NDE, Alexander described ascending through multiple spiritual realms, including a Gateway Valley with thousands of souls dancing and a core realm filled with divine love, where he encountered a beautiful guardian angel and experienced life reviews. He explained how his scientific background as a neurosurgeon transformed after the experience, leading him to reject materialism and embrace a view that consciousness is primary in the universe rather than being created by the brain. Dr Alexander discussed his recovery process, including his return to work within three months and his subsequent career shift from neurosurgery to sharing his experiences about consciousness and spirituality with the world. He also covered his work with binaural beat meditation using Sacred Acoustics, past life memories and reincarnation research at the University of Virginia, and how near-death experiences demonstrate the reality of an eternal soul and universal love.

    Eben Alexander

  7. 22. Juli

    Emma-Leigh Senyard

    This podcast episode featured Dr Peta interviewing Dr. Emma Leigh Senyard, a clinical psychologist who shared her personal journey with chronic illness and how she incorporated mind-body approaches to heal. Emma described developing medical symptoms after having her first daughter in 2021, which led to a diagnosis of mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS) and heart condition, followed by a challenging recovery process involving various treatments and alternative therapies. Through her journey, Emma discovered the benefits of meditation, vagus nerve exercises, and fourth-wave therapy approaches like EFT Tapping, Inner Child work, EMDR and Internal Family Systems, which helped regulate her nervous system and improve her physical symptoms. She now integrates these mind-body approaches in her private practice, working with teenagers and adults and focusing on nervous system regulation, while also advocating for better integration between medical and psychological approaches to address the mind-body connection.

    Emma-Leigh Senyard

  8. 22. Juli

    Gabriëlle Rutten

    This podcast episode featured Dr. Gabrielle Rutten, the appointed successor to Gary Craig, discussing the evolution of EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) and the introduction of Optimal EFT. Gabrielle shared her journey from medical doctor to EFT practitioner, explaining how Gary Craig originally developed both EFT tapping and EFT meditation (now called Optimal EFT) with a spiritual foundation that was later simplified for wider acceptance. She clarified that EFT techniques properly refers to the combination of both EFT tapping and EFT meditation forms, emphasizing that both approaches are necessary for comprehensive EFT practice. Gabrielle discussed how Optimal EFT involves connecting with an "unseen therapist" for spiritual guidance while maintaining the technical aspects of stress pattern resolution, and she expressed her vision for unity within the EFT community to advance the practice professionally and personally.

    Gabriëlle Rutten
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In a world where mental health has taken center stage, a new wave of innovation is sweeping through the therapy field. Join me as we embark on a journey uncovering the latest breakthroughs, emerging technologies, and pioneering approaches that are redefining the way we heal, grow and thrive. This is the 4th Wave of Therapy.

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