Mormon.ish

Rebecca Bibliotheca and Landon Brophy

A podcast for post and nuanced Mormons seeking a joyful life as they navigate their faith journey outside of orthodox Mormonism. Donate to Mormonish Podcast here: https://www.mormonishpodcast.org/support This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

  1. vor 4 Tagen

    Ep347: Mormon Stories & Deseret IPA: Is There Really Brand Confusion?

    What does a Utah craft beer have to do with the LDS Church’s lawsuit against Mormon Stories? More than you might think. In this episode, we revisit a previous Mormonish Podcast story about Bewilder Brewing and its Deseret IPA. The brewery was challenged by the LDS church over its use of the name “Deseret,” with trademark concerns ultimately leading to the beer being discontinued. Now, with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints suing Mormon Stories Podcast and John Dehlin, we’re taking another look at the Deseret IPA dispute through a new lens. The Church says its Mormon Stories lawsuit is about preventing consumer or brand confusion—arguing that elements of Mormon Stories’ branding could lead people to believe the podcast is associated with or endorsed by the Church. Sound familiar? Revisiting what happened to Deseret IPA asks the bigger question: How plausible is “brand confusion” in either case? Could consumers really mistake a craft IPA for a Church product—or Mormon Stories for an official Church podcast? And what do these cases tell us about how aggressively the Church protects its intellectual property and brand? Join us as we revisit Deseret IPA and leave you to consider the striking parallels with the battle now unfolding over Mormon Stories. This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

    Ep347: Mormon Stories & Deseret IPA: Is There Really Brand Confusion?
  2. 27. Aug.

    Episode 345: Textual complexity clues point to Book of Mormon authorship

    In Episode 7 of this series, Patrick begins by responding to recent listener feedback. He documents the many ways that post Mormons believe in conspiracy theories! Or better stated—collaborations or “constructed experiences” in early Mormon history. Patrick then responds to claims that stylometry is “junk science”. He compares this claim to early claims that DNA population studies and the Book of Mormon peoples were labeled in the same way. He demonstrates many cases of unknown authorship of a text being solved by stylometry. Further, he demonstrates how stylometry, well done, meets the high bar of being admitted as evidence in court cases. He walks through several examples of cases where stylometry was allowed as expert or scientific testimony. Patrick then announces that Rebecca discovered a 9th wordprint study! One that was just published in the past few weeks. Unfortunately, the study did not test the narrative and sermon text separately—a key to testing the multiple authors theories. More to come as we attempt to contact the author of the study for more information. The rest of this episode focuses on setting the stage for evaluating textual clues in the Book of Mormon. Which clues go beyond demonstrating 19th century authorship and tie uniquely to Joseph or Rigdon? Off the bat, there are a couple of very interesting cases: the 7-point Mormon project of the Book of Mormon, and Joseph’s role being limited to only dictation of the text and deferral to a “spokesman” for everything else. The remaining discussion evaluates further, the level of complexity in the Book of Mormon, so listeners can best evaluate the skill and amount of time the author would have needed to produce the text. Join us for a thoughtful look at the evidence behind one big question: who authored the Book of Mormon? Thank you so much for watching Mormonish Podcast! **How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you’d like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.com #mormonish #lds #mormon #exmormon #postmormon #religion #news, #ldschurch #comeuntochrist #churchofjesuschrist #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints #byu #byui #josephsmith #comefollowme #polygamy #bookofmormon #becauseofhim #hearhim #ldstemple FAIR USE DISCLAIMER All Media in this video (including the thumbnail) is used for the purpose of review and critique. The images in the thumbnail are used as the primary means of visually identifying the subject matter of the video This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

    Episode 345: Textual complexity clues point to Book of Mormon authorship
  3. 26. Aug.

    Ep344: Ex Mormon The Musical: Meet the Creators John and Rachelle Moyer

    In this episode, we sit down with John and Rachelle Moyer, the creative team behind the new project Ex Mormon: The Musical, for a fascinating conversation about faith, humor, music, and the complicated journey of religious deconstruction. John and Rachelle share their backgrounds and personal faith journeys, what inspired them to create a musical soundtrack about the ex-Mormon experience, and why humor can be such a powerful tool for processing experiences that are anything but funny. We also dive into the songs themselves, exploring the stories and meaning behind the music and how the soundtrack captures different aspects of questioning, leaving, rebuilding, and finding your way forward. Ex Mormon: The Musical is hilarious but its more than that! Links: JosephSmith.com ExMormonSoundtrack.com RachelleMoyer.com (Rachelle's official site of what she does) TikTok @johnnykolob Instagram @RachelleMoyerCCH @johnmoyer Larger Streaming Sites for Music: Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/ex-mormon-the-musical-original-musical-soundtrack/6794734251 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/4OxkzS1jbuwicBjZkGw2TS YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nWrGA7_b-8EVA0UrfG4lBbo8z6Z_-tj_k Thank you so much for watching Mormonish Podcast! **How to DONATE to Mormonish Podcast: If you would like to help financially support our podcast, you can DONATE to support Mormonish Podcast here: Mormonish Podcast is a 501(c) (3) https://donorbox.org/mormonish-podcast WE HAVE MERCH! **** If you’d like to purchase Mormonish Merch, you can visit our Merch store here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/mormonishmerch We appreciate our Mormonish viewers and listeners so much! Don't forget to LIKE and SUBSCRIBE to Mormonish Podcast! Contact Mormonish Podcast: mormonishpodcast@gmail.com #mormonish #lds #mormon #exmormon #postmormon #religion #news, #ldschurch #comeuntochrist #churchofjesuschrist #churchofjesuschristoflatterdaysaints #byu #byui #josephsmith #comefollowme #polygamy #bookofmormon #becauseofhim #hearhim #ldstemple FAIR USE DISCLAIMER All Media in this video (including the thumbnail) is used for the purpose of review and critique. The images in the thumbnail are used as the primary means of visually identifying the subject matter of the video This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

    Ep344: Ex Mormon The Musical: Meet the Creators John and Rachelle Moyer
  4. 21. Aug.

    Ep343: More Wordprint Study Analysis; More Surprising Results

    In Episode 6 of this series, Patrick begins by responding to recent listener feedback. He addresses the often-committed logical fallacy of thinking that the lack of “better” evidence for an early connection between Joseph and Sidney Rigdon is proof they didn’t meet at all. Patrick then reports recent findings that demonstrate the church is still refusing to make public the records that document 3 key points in Rigdon’s life, where he would have been motivated to “spill the beans” on the church! Could it have been related to polygamy? That seems unlikely now—at a time when the church has admitted that Joseph had 34 wives. Could it have been related to Sidney’s role in Book of Mormon authorship? Patrick then explains how the fear that wordprint studies can be manipulated does not justify ignoring them. Many guardrails in place surrounding scientific processes ensure that studies can be reviewed by critics to hold authors accountable. Watch as Patrick demonstrates that all of the LDS-authored studies report findings that are counter to their motivations! What better sign could there be that the LDS authored studies are not being manipulated to obtain their desired findings? The rest of this episode focuses on the last two wordprint studies, including the only study to compare the wordprint of Sidney Rigdon to the Book of Mormon text. Is Sidney flagged as an author? Finally, there is presentation of the chart reviewing the findings of all 8 wordprint studies showing surprisingly consistent findings. Join us for a thoughtful look at the evidence behind one big question: who authored the Book of Mormon? This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

    Ep343:  More Wordprint Study Analysis; More Surprising Results

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A podcast for post and nuanced Mormons seeking a joyful life as they navigate their faith journey outside of orthodox Mormonism. Donate to Mormonish Podcast here: https://www.mormonishpodcast.org/support This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy