Odyssey

Binary Builders

Follow Onur and Max´s weekly deep-dives into crypto market chaos, macro larping, and AI adventures. Expect unhinged takes, guest interviews with industry leaders and builders, and high-signal insights without taking ourselves too seriously. Believe in Something: While markets might be fake, our yapping isn´t.

  1. 31.12.2025

    #062 - XO Markets: Conviction and Prediction Markets w/Ali

    Check out XO's beta with the exclusive Odyssey invite code! https://beta.xo.market/invitation Code (case sensitive): XO-ODYSSEY Summary In this episode, Max interviews Ali, the founder of ExoMarkets, discussing his journey into the crypto space, the unique features of ExoMarkets, and the differences between conviction markets and traditional prediction markets. They explore the platform's mechanisms for liquidity provision, user engagement strategies, and the technical infrastructure that supports it. Ali shares insights on the growth metrics of ExoMarkets, the revenue model, and the future of prediction markets, including the integration of AI and the potential for private markets. The conversation concludes with a call to action for listeners to engage with ExoMarkets and participate in upcoming debate markets. Follow XO Markets: https://x.com/xodotmarket Follow Ali: https://x.com/AliHabbabeh Follow us on X: https://x.com/OdysseyBIS Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4SKLuK9iE3wVITs50xAGPu?si=a8bedd891ec34d65 Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OdysseyBiS Check out our website: https://binary.builders/odyssey/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/odysseybis Join our TG: https://t.me/OdysseyBiS DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on the Odyssey Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell any security or token, nor does it constitute any tax or legal advice. The podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any views expressed by the hosts or the guests are solely opinions and not financial, legal, or tax advice. The hosts and guests may hold positions, equity, or advisory positions in the projects, companies, and funds discussed.

    1 Std. 1 Min.
  2. 23.12.2025

    #061 - Roundtable: Crypto in 2025 Review! Winners, Losers, and Trends w/0xPxls from TAU Labs

    Summary In this conversation, the hosts and guests discuss the evolving landscape of cryptocurrency in 2025, highlighting key winners and losers, emerging trends, and the role of stablecoins and vaults. They reflect on the challenges facing DeFi tokens and the impact of institutional interest in the space. The discussion also touches on the future of meme coins and the overall sentiment in the crypto market, concluding with thoughts on sustainability and growth in the industry. Chapters(00:00) 2025 Crypto Landscape Overview(03:34) Winners and Losers of 2025(06:31) Emerging Trends in Crypto(09:24) The Rise of Vaults and Prediction Markets(12:16) Stablecoins: The New Frontier(14:57) The Evolution of Curation in DeFi(17:40) Risk Management and Permissionlessness(20:42) Institutional Interest in DeFi(23:48) Sustainable Yield Sources in DeFi(26:11) Future of Vaults and Curators(29:12) The Role of Exotic Strategies in DeFi(32:06) Conclusion and Future Outlook(42:11) Institutional Approaches to DeFi(45:33) The Evolution of Crypto and DeFi(47:25) Identifying the Losers in Crypto(52:51) The State of DeFi Tokens(58:03) Future Outlook for DeFi and Tokens Follow Vlad: https://x.com/0xpxls Follow TAU: https://x.com/628Labs Follow us on X: https://x.com/OdysseyBIS Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4SKLuK9iE3wVITs50xAGPu?si=a8bedd891ec34d65 Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OdysseyBiS Check out our website: https://binary.builders/odyssey/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/odysseybis Join our TG: https://t.me/OdysseyBiS DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on the Odyssey Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell any security or token, nor does it constitute any tax or legal advice. The podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any views expressed by the hosts or the guests are solely opinions and not financial, legal, or tax advice. The hosts and guests may hold positions, equity, or advisory positions in the projects, companies, and funds discussed.

    1 Std. 14 Min.
  3. 19.12.2025

    #060 - Bitvavo: Dominating the European CEX Market w/David Kurz

    Receive €25 when you sign up to Bitvavo (we do NOT receive any commission): https://bitvavo.com/de/affiliate/special?a=72876B1618_odyssey SummaryIn this episode of the Odyssey podcast, Max interviews David from Bitvavo, a leading Euro-denominated centralized exchange. They discuss David's journey into the crypto industry, the competitive landscape of exchanges, the impact of Mica regulation, user metrics, institutional interest, and the future outlook for Bitvavo and the crypto industry. The conversation highlights the unique position of Bitvavo in the European market and the importance of understanding user behavior and regulatory challenges.Chapters(00:00) Introduction to Bitvavo and the Crypto Landscape(05:50) David's Role and Bitvavo's Structure(09:35) Competitive Edge in the European Market(12:16) The Evolving Competitive Landscape(18:35) Understanding MECA Regulation(21:57) User Metrics and Business Functionality(25:23) Institutional Adoption and Client Base(28:37) User Behavior Across Regions(33:12) The Builder Landscape in Europe(37:24) Outlook for 2026 and Market Predictions(42:41) Token Listing Processes at Bitvavo(43:31) Closing Thoughts and Future DirectionsFollow Bitvavo: https://x.com/bitvavocom Follow David: https://x.com/itsdavidkurzFollow us on X: https://x.com/OdysseyBIS Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4SKLuK9iE3wVITs50xAGPu?si=a8bedd891ec34d65 Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OdysseyBiS Check out our website: https://binary.builders/odyssey/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/odysseybisJoin our TG: https://t.me/OdysseyBiS **DISCLAIMER**: Nothing said on the Odyssey Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell any security or token, nor does it constitute any tax or legal advice. The podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any views expressed by the hosts or the guests are solely opinions and not financial, legal, or tax advice. The hosts and guests may hold positions, equity, or advisory positions in the projects, companies, and funds discussed.

    46 Min.
  4. 19.12.2025

    #059 - Roundtable: Solana Breakpoint and 2025 EoY Outlook

    SummaryIn this conversation, the hosts reflect on their recent experiences at crypto conferences in Buenos Aires and Abu Dhabi, discussing the evolving landscape of Solana and its appeal to builders. They explore the growing institutional interest in DeFi, the importance of mobile integration for user onboarding, and the rise of mergers and acquisitions in the crypto space. The discussion also touches on the competition between Solana and Ethereum, market sentiment, and the potential of prediction markets to reshape incentives in the industry. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about kebab culture.Chapters(00:00) Conference Reflections: Buenos Aires vs. Abu Dhabi(03:34) The Shift in Conference Vibes: From Idealism to Realism(06:21) Emerging Trends and Projects in Solana(09:14) Mobile Integration: The Future of Crypto Experiences(12:08) The Landscape of Builders: Youth and Innovation(15:16) Mergers and Acquisitions: The New Normal(18:07) The Role of Traditional Finance in Crypto(21:06) The Future of On-Chain Assets and User Engagement(23:59) Consolidation and Market Dynamics: A Cautionary Tale(34:17) The Cost of Podcasting(34:56) DeFi Developments on Solana(35:25) Solana vs Ethereum: A Composability Comparison(39:32) Institutional Competition: Solana's Strategy(41:16) Market Sentiment and User Retention(43:15) The Changing Landscape of Crypto Investment(45:07) Market Outlook: Predictions for 2026(56:32) Consolidation and Market Dynamics(01:01:40) Future Themes and PredictionsFollow us on X: https://x.com/OdysseyBIS Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4SKLuK9iE3wVITs50xAGPu?si=a8bedd891ec34d65 Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OdysseyBiS Check out our website: https://binary.builders/odyssey/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/odysseybisJoin our TG: https://t.me/OdysseyBiS **DISCLAIMER**: Nothing said on the Odyssey Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell any security or token, nor does it constitute any tax or legal advice. The podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any views expressed by the hosts or the guests are solely opinions and not financial, legal, or tax advice. The hosts and guests may hold positions, equity, or advisory positions in the projects, companies, and funds discussed. - - - - - Follow Juri: https://x.com/jurimaibaum Follow Swyke: https://x.com/swyke_ai

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  5. 19.12.2025

    #058 - Devcon Takeaways, M&A szn, and L1 Valuation Debates

    SummaryIn this episode, Max and Juri discuss their insights from the recent Devcon conference, exploring the evolving themes in the crypto space, particularly around Ethereum and the broader market dynamics. They delve into the acceptance of the bear market, the shift in developer conversations, and the implications for institutional adoption and revenue generation. The conversation also touches on the ongoing trends in mergers and acquisitions within the industry, the challenges of valuation for layer 1s, and the future outlook for crypto amidst changing sentiments.Chapters(00:00) Welcome Back and Conference Insights(03:31) Themes and Atmosphere at DEF CON(06:30) Evolution of Developer Conversations(09:29) Bear Market Realities and Optimism(12:18) Crypto Twitter Sentiment and Industry Dynamics(15:27) Market Structure and Future Predictions(17:53) Revenue Generation and Sustainability in Crypto(20:56) Layer One Valuations and Market Outlook(33:34) Market Dynamics and Asset Valuation(45:52) Mergers and Acquisitions in Crypto(56:05) Future of Layer 1s and Market Consolidation Follow us on X: https://x.com/OdysseyBIS Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4SKLuK9iE3wVITs50xAGPu?si=a8bedd891ec34d65 Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OdysseyBiS Check out our website: https://binary.builders/odyssey/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/odysseybis Join our TG: https://t.me/OdysseyBiS DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on the Odyssey Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell any security or token, nor does it constitute any tax or legal advice. The podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any views expressed by the hosts or the guests are solely opinions and not financial, legal, or tax advice. The hosts and guests may hold positions, equity, or advisory positions in the projects, companies, and funds discussed. Follow Juri: https://x.com/jurimaibaum Follow Swyke: https://x.com/swyke_ai

    1 Std. 4 Min.
  6. 09.12.2025

    #057 - Yumi Finance: Buy Now, Pay Later onchain w/Mikhail

    Summary In this episode, Max and Mikhail from Yumi Finance discuss the innovative approach of integrating buy now pay later (BNPL) services into the blockchain ecosystem. Mikhail shares insights on the challenges faced by consumers in emerging markets regarding access to credit and how Yumi aims to address these issues through a unique business model that leverages crypto technology. The conversation delves into the importance of user experience, the macroeconomic landscape affecting consumer behavior, and the future of credit in a rapidly evolving financial environment. Mikhail emphasizes the need for sustainable yield in DeFi and the potential for Yumi to bridge the gap between traditional finance and the crypto world. Chapters(00:00) Introduction to Yumi Finance and Its Vision(03:43) The Need for Credit in Emerging Markets(06:41) Yumi's Unique Business Model and Approach(09:26) How Crypto Enhances Accessibility and Cost Efficiency(12:20) The Shift Towards B2B in Crypto Finance(15:22) User Experience and Onboarding in Crypto(18:16) The Future of Under-Collateralized Credit in Crypto(20:59) Yumi's User Flow and Underwriting Process(24:07) Funding and Capital Structure for Yumi(26:58) Comparing Yumi with Traditional BNPL Providers(29:42) Conclusion and Future Outlook for Yumi(34:27) Growth and Go-to-Market Strategy(36:41) Buy Now, Pay Later in Consumer Trends(39:22) The Impact of Credit on Consumer Behavior(42:17) Tracking Consumer Behavior and Privacy Concerns(43:07) Market Sentiment and Currency Choices(45:00) The Evolution of BNPL Spending(47:08) Future Plans and Points Programs(49:04) Sustainable Yield in DeFi(51:00) Balancing Incentives and Token Dynamics(57:46) Final Thoughts and Future Outlook Follow Yumi: https://x.com/YumiFinance Follow Mikhail: https://x.com/shortusdlongeth Follow us on X: https://x.com/OdysseyBIS Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4SKLuK9iE3wVITs50xAGPu?si=a8bedd891ec34d65 Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OdysseyBiS Check out our website: https://binary.builders/odyssey/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/odysseybis Join our TG: https://t.me/OdysseyBiS DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on the Odyssey Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell any security or token, nor does it constitute any tax or legal advice. The podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any views expressed by the hosts or the guests are solely opinions and not financial, legal, or tax advice. The hosts and guests may hold positions, equity, or advisory positions in the projects, companies, and funds discussed.

    1 Std. 1 Min.
  7. 08.12.2025

    #056 - DeFi Llama and Llama AI w/Patrick (Dynamo DeFi)

    Summary In this conversation, Patrick Scott, also known as Dynamo DeFi, discusses his journey in the DeFi space, his role at DeFi Llama, and the launch of Llama AI. He shares insights on the importance of building relationships in the industry, the functionality of Llama AI in enhancing DeFi analytics, and the challenges faced in the current market. The discussion also touches on the evolution of crypto media and the future outlook for content creation in the DeFi space. Chapters(00:00) Introduction to Patrick and DeFi Llama(03:46) Patrick's Journey to DeFi Llama(06:24) The Launch of Llama AI(09:18) How Llama AI Works(12:23) Improving Data Analysis with Llama AI(15:22) Limitations and Future of Llama AI(18:06) Connecting Fundamentals to Price(21:24) The Role of Metrics in DeFi Investments(24:04) User Insights and Popular Queries on Llama AI(26:53) The Future of DeFi and Llama AI(42:20) Identifying Market Trends and Investment Strategies(44:19) Market Sentiment and Industry Evolution(48:24) The Bifurcation of Crypto: Meme Coins vs. Fundamentals(50:55) Declining Interest in Altcoins and DeFi(59:46) The Altcoin Cataclysm: Shifts in Speculation(01:08:32) The Future of Crypto and Fintech Integration(01:16:14) The Evolution of Crypto Content Creation Follow Patrick: https://x.com/patfscott Follow DeFi Llama: https://x.com/DefiLlama Check out Llama AI: https://defillama.com/ai Follow us on X: https://x.com/OdysseyBIS Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4SKLuK9iE3wVITs50xAGPu?si=a8bedd891ec34d65 Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OdysseyBiS Check out our website: https://binary.builders/odyssey/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/odysseybis Join our TG: https://t.me/OdysseyBiS DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on the Odyssey Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell any security or token, nor does it constitute any tax or legal advice. The podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any views expressed by the hosts or the guests are solely opinions and not financial, legal, or tax advice. The hosts and guests may hold positions, equity, or advisory positions in the projects, companies, and funds discussed.

    1 Std. 22 Min.
  8. 02.12.2025

    #055 - Roundtable: BNB Plus, and the State of DATs

    Summary In this episode of the Odyssey podcast, Max is joined by Patrick Horsman and JR Pasch to discuss the evolving landscape of decentralized asset trusts (DATs) and the unique position of BNB Plus within the crypto ecosystem. They delve into the strategies for yield generation, the significance of BNB as a productive asset, and the operational aspects of running a DAT. The conversation also touches on market resilience, potential M&A activity in the DAT sector, and the importance of financial transparency for investors. Additionally, they explore macroeconomic influences on the crypto market and provide insights into the future outlook for BNB Plus and the broader DAT landscape. Chapters(00:00) Introduction and Market Overview(03:21) The Launch of BNB Debt and Its Rationale(06:28) Strategies for Generating Yield with BNB(10:49) Understanding Airdrop Yields and Market Dynamics(13:47) Operational Aspects and Financial Resilience(15:43) Risks in the Digital Asset Treasury Ecosystem(18:55) Market Trends and Potential M&A in the DAT Space(20:07) Key Metrics and Transparency in Digital Asset Management(26:26) Key Factors for Business Success(27:29) Investor Behavior and Risk Appetite(28:48) The Role of Major Tokens in the Market(29:56) Accessing the Binance Ecosystem(32:10) BNB Tokenomics and Its Implications(34:15) Institutional Interest in BNB(35:32) Macro Influences on Crypto Markets(37:58) The Correlation Between Crypto and Global Liquidity(42:27) Future Outlook for Crypto and BNB(46:56) The Evolution of the BNB DeFi Ecosystem Follow BNB Plus: https://x.com/BNBX_Corp Check out the BNB Plus Dashboard: https://www.bnbx.io/ Follow Patrick: https://x.com/horsmanp Follow us on X: https://x.com/OdysseyBIS Follow us on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4SKLuK9iE3wVITs50xAGPu?si=a8bedd891ec34d65 Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OdysseyBiS Check out our website: https://binary.builders/odyssey/ Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/odysseybis Join our TG: https://t.me/OdysseyBiS DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on the Odyssey Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell any security or token, nor does it constitute any tax or legal advice. The podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. Any views expressed by the hosts or the guests are solely opinions and not financial, legal, or tax advice. The hosts and guests may hold positions, equity, or advisory positions in the projects, companies, and funds discussed.

    51 Min.

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Follow Onur and Max´s weekly deep-dives into crypto market chaos, macro larping, and AI adventures. Expect unhinged takes, guest interviews with industry leaders and builders, and high-signal insights without taking ourselves too seriously. Believe in Something: While markets might be fake, our yapping isn´t.