Over the Back Fence

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Di Edwards and Nicola Dale have been best friends for close to four decades & they actually share a ‘back fence’ in Sydney! They share a love of life, a passion for people, and have discovered a simple conversation over the back fence, can change a life and give a sense of belonging .  “We’re not neuroscientists, psychologists, doctors or monks - we just love people - and know with age comes wisdom."

  1. VOR 4 TAGEN

    John Fejo: Sharks, Drones and First Nations Wisdom in the Age of AI

    This week Nicola and Di chat with inspiring storyteller John Fuje. John is a First Nations man with a deep connection to storytelling culture and country. He works in environmental services as a senior coordinator, and is an AI and drone technology specialist, using these tools in practical ways to help track sharks, turtles and other marine life along the coastline. The amazing thing about John is the way he blends thousands of years of indigenous wisdom about country and Mother Nature, with the most modern AI tools to find new ways of looking after our planet. John is also a devoted husband, father and grandfather with so much love for his family.  Nicola and Di were introduced to John when he was brought in to spot sharks on Sydney’s Northern Beaches. After inviting him for what they thought would be a 20 minute coffee, which turned into 2 hours, they decided that everyone needed to hear John’s stories.  In this episode we hear the incredible story of how John was able to combine his deep knowledge of country with drone technology that would help him track the movements of sharks and other marine life. We ask him about the recent increase in shark attacks along Sydney’s coastline, and whether there are more sharks in the water - John’s answer may surprise you! We talk about the power of Mother Nature in grounding us and reminding us how connected we all are. The way John talks about his connection with nature is mesmerising and we were captivated by his stories.  We loved having John in the studio with us and it was so wonderful to hear the beautiful and refreshing perspective that he shares. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer. We'd love you to join us for our Backfence Disco on Friday, May 29th at Positive Energy in Sydney. It's going to be such a fun night and we can't wait to dance the night away with you in person! Buy your tickets here: https://events.humanitix.com/over-the-back-fence-disco Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow John on LinkedIn here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-fejo-690434255/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    49 Min.

  2. 12. APR.

    Dr. Shefali Tsabary Gets Real About The Stories We Hide Behind - And How To Break Them

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the wise and insightful Dr. Shefali. Dr. Shefali is a world-renowned clinical psychologist, international parenting expert, and a New York Times bestselling author of 7 books including The Conscious Parent, The Parenting Map and A Radical Awakening among others. She’s also the host of the Parenting & You podcast, founder of the Conscious Parenting movement and has been a guest several times on Super Soul with Oprah.  In this episode we talk to Dr. Shefali about what it means to be a conscious parent and how you can become aware of your patterns and belief systems by recognising that your child is a mirror to your unresolved issues. It’s not only our children, we talk about the powerful way that all relationships are like mirrors that show us where we still have places to heal and lessons to learn. Dr. Shefali shares some great examples from her own life as a parent, and how we can practically begin to break down our patterns and not project our expectations onto our children. She helps us understand that there’s no such thing as a perfect parent or a perfect human - we are all learning and evolving.  Dr. Shefali shares about her childhood in India and how she always knew she wanted to leave because of the inequalities she witnessed there. At the age of 21 she moved to the United States, where she studied at the California Institute of Integral Studies and Columbia University and began integrating Western psychology and Eastern philosophy in all of her work.  We also talk about her book A Radical Awakening, which helps women see how to break free from societal expectations and live authentic lives. Dr. Shefali talks about the choice we are sometimes faced with between being authentic to ourselves or authentic to the views of others, and that the greatest gift you can ultimately give others in your life is to choose to be authentically yourself.  This is such a beautiful and powerful episode, whether you’re a parent or not, because all of Dr. Shefali’s wisdom can be applied to any relationship in your life. We’re so grateful we had this time with Dr. Shefali, who joined us all the way from New York, and we hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com We’ve created a special offer for our Back Fence listeners to use at Positive Energy. Listeners can get a 10 class pack for $150 (save $90) or 25% off an unlimited membership for 3 months. Use code: BACKFENCEPE to activate your special offer.  Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Dr. Shefali on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/doctorshefali/ 30-Day Free Access to the Conscious Circle Community - https://courses.drshefali.com/circle-giftpass Radical Awakening Bali Retreat - https://radicalawakeningbali.com/ - Use code AUSTRALIA500 for $500 off  Conscious Parenting & Life Coaching Institute - https://coaching.drshefali.com/ - Once your application is approved, use code AUSTRALIA for $500 off tuition. Watch Alicia Keys reading a poem from A Radical Awakening by Dr. Shefali here - https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJjpHupvgUQ/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts Follow Positive Energy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/positiveenergy_health_fitness/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    53 Min.

  3. 5. APR.

    Jane McCann: The Middle Age Goddess - Aging is an Upgrade, Nothing Changes Until You Do

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the delightful Middle Age Goddess, Jane McCann. Jane is a woman who’s turned midlife into a statement. She’s confident, stylish and completely unapologetic. Jane, known as the Middle Age Goddess, has built a loyal Instagram following by rejecting the idea that life slows down after a certain age and proving instead that it only gets better. From fashion, beauty, travel and reinvention, she represents a new kind of woman - one who isn’t interested in playing small, fading quietly or asking for permission. Whether she’s fronting curated experiences abroad or sharing her take on modern femininity, Jane embodies a life that is bold, visible and entirely self-defined. Midlife isn’t the end of the story for Jane, it’s the main event.  In this episode we chat to Jane about what life was like before she became the Middle Age Goddess, and what inspired her to share this chapter of her life online and create such a wonderful community. We talk about why people resonate so much with her message, which is really because of Jane’s honesty and authenticity.  Jane opens up about what it was like to be brought up by a mother who was suffering from bipolar and the way that affected her confidence and self-belief. Jane also shares about the painful loss of her sister a few years ago, and gives us some beautiful suggestions of the things that have helped her process her grief. We talk about the power of being in nature, going for a walk, calling a girlfriend and leaning into the simple things that make you feel good.  We also have fun talking about some of the topics Jane covers on her Instagram - from her middle age rage to her outfits du jour, it’s so entertaining following her story.  We absolutely loved chatting with Jane. It was so refreshing to talk about how life keeps getting better as we age and the ways we can keep reinventing ourselves and experiencing new things. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Jane aka The Middle Age Goddess on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/themiddleagedgoddess/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    49 Min.

  4. 29. MÄRZ

    Gai Waterhouse AO: Racing Royalty - From the Back Fence to the Winning Post

    This week Nicola and Di chat with racing royalty Gai Waterhouse. Known as the first lady of Australian Racing, Gai is the daughter of the legendary Tommy J. Smith and is one of Australia’s most recognised and successful horse trainers, including training horses for the late Queen Elizabeth and the Queen Mother. Gai also had an early life in the arts, appearing in TV shows like The Young Doctors and Doctor Who, before returning to the stables and forging an extraordinary career in racing.  In this episode we talk to Gai about what it was like to train horses for Queen Elizabeth and the Queen Mother, what her favourite race is, what a day in the life of a trainer is like and whether or not she has any superstitions and rituals on race day - you’ll want to hear the one thing that Gai swears by! We also chat about Gai’s hilarious new fashion critic videos that she does with her daughter Kate on Instagram. It’s so much fun to get Gai’s take on the latest looks from the red carpet. Gai talks to us about the importance of making a good first impression, not dropping your standards and dressing the part. Gai also shares about her beautiful family life - the loving marriage she has with her husband of more than 45 years, Robbie, their 2 children Tom and Kate and the joy she feels as a grandma of 5.  We absolutely loved chatting with Gai and we hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did!  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Gai on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/gai_waterhouse/ Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    29 Min.

  5. 22. MÄRZ

    Amanda Goff: Life After Samantha X – Finding Herself, Once Australia’s Highest-Paid Escort

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the fascinating and authentic Amanda Goff. From journalist  to living a secret double life behind closed doors, Amanda was once Australia’s Highest-Paid Escort, Samantha X. In this explosive episode, she steps into the spotlight and owns every headline, every whisper, every scandal. This is a story of courage, controversy, vulnerability and the search for authenticity. Since revealing her identity, Amanda has become an author, speaker and an advocate sharing honest conversations about women, stigma, relationships and reinvention.  In this episode, we get to know the woman behind Samantha X and what led to one of the most extraordinary career changes - from being an award-winning journalist to entering the sex work industry as a high-end escort at the age of 38. Amanda talks openly and honestly about what her time as an escort was like - how she got the gig, what her first client encounter was like, what she’s learnt about men and why she doesn’t regret any of it.   She tells us about the agency that she then opened, hiring escorts over 40 and she busts some myths about the sex work industry and the type of people who do this work.  Amanda also opens up about her struggles with mental health, how she was living with undiagnosed bipolar, and how much better she is now that she’s medicated and has more clarity.  This was an absolutely fascinating conversation and we’re so grateful to Amanda for her honesty and giving us a peek inside an industry that so many of us are curious to know more about. We hope you enjoy this chat as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Amanda on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/amandagoffofficial/?hl=en Buy Amanda’s book Misfit here - https://www.booktopia.com.au/misfit-amanda-goff/book/9781760688608.html? Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    48 Min.

  6. 15. MÄRZ

    Tess Brouwer: Reinvent Your Mindset - Reset, Recharge & Thrive

    This week Nicola and Di chat with the inspiring and heart-centred Tess Brouwer. Tess is the CEO and co-founder of the Awake Academy alongside world champion surfer Layne Beachley, and together they wrote the book, Awake Academy. She’s a practitioner of positive psychology, a mental wellness mentor and someone who knows the corporate life inside and out. Tess has rebuilt her life from a serious spinal injury, survived burnout several times and helps people to reset, recharge and thrive at work and in life. She’s also a mum, a podcaster and the creator of the new supplement Wake Up. In this episode we hear Tess’ incredible story of the skiing accident that changed her life, what it was like to recover from a serious spinal injury and what she learnt about herself along the way. She shares with us the remarkable words of wisdom that Layne gave her during that time, and how Tess realised that by changing your mindset, you change your life.  Tess talks to us about positive psychology and some really practical tools that we can all use to feel better in our lives, shift our mindset in a positive direction and be open to what the universe has to offer.  This is a deeply personal episode where Tess opens up about some difficult times in her life, shares the negative stories she used to have about herself and reflects on how beautiful and meaningful her life has become. There were lots of tears in the studio (as well as laughs) and hugs all around.  It was a real joy to have Tess join us and we hope you love this beautiful, open and honest conversation as much as we did! This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Tess on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/tesscbrouwer/ Follow Awake Academy on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/awake_academy/ Buy Tess and Layne’s book Awake Academy here - https://www.penguin.com.au/books/awake-academy-9781761345869 Join the Awake Collective here - https://www.awakeacademy.com.au/store Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    56 Min.

  7. 8. MÄRZ

    Joh Bailey: Behind the Chair - Hair, Celebs & Royal Tales

    This week Nicola and Di chat with an Australian icon, Joh Bailey. Joh is the hairdresser to the stars, a business visionary and the man who turned the blowdry into an empire. From styling global legends like the late Princess Diana and Kylie Minogue, to creating a brand that’s reshaped Australian hair care, Joh has influenced style, culture and confidence for decades. In this episode we chat to Joh about what it’s been like to work with some of the most incredible celebrities, from Princess Diana to Kim Kardashian. Joh tells us the story of when he received a call from Buckingham Palace asking him if he would be Princess Di’s official hairdresser on her trip to Sydney in 1996. He gives us the inside scoop on all the royal protocols and what it was like to hang out with Princess Di.  We talk about the fashion and hairstyle trends of the past, the various celebrities that defined each decade, and what it’s like these days where anything really goes.  We also chat about how Joh got started in business and the incredible relationship he has with his business partner Marilyn. He gives us his thoughts on what he believes to be the secrets to his success.  It’s not only his business partnership that Joh shares about, he also opens up about his relationship with his husband Michael and the simple life they share in Bowral with their beloved horses.  This was a really fun conversation and we were thrilled to have Joh style our hair for the episode - tune in to our YouTube channel to see the looks he created for us!  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Joh on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/johbaileyofficial/ Buy Joh’s hair products or book a salon appointment here - https://johbailey.com.au Watch Over The Back Fence on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    56 Min.

  8. 1. MÄRZ

    Over The Money Fence: Calm Amid The Chaos: Building Money Confidence in 2026

    This week Nicola and Di are back with the first 2026 episode of Over The Money Fence with Roger Montgomery. This series aims to help you take control of your finances with clarity and confidence. Roger is the Founder and Chairman of Montgomery Investment Management, has over 30 years’ investing experience and is a highly respected financial commentator featuring on various ABC programs, as well as his popular column in The Australian newspaper. He is also the author of best-selling investment guidebook Value.able. In this episode, we take a look at the changes that are currently happening in the world, and how that could impact our finances. Roger explains how the tailwinds that have benefited the stock markets in the past, and have benefited the Baby Boomers and Gen X are shifting, and why that means we need to consider other investments. Roger talks about the importance of diversification and how you need to look at investing in things that don’t move the same way as your existing investments. He discusses alternative investment options that can provide you with regular income, low capital volatility and attractive returns like private credit and the differences in those types of funds. He also explores high-frequency trading and arbitrage strategies, which historically were largely accessible only to institutional investors. We talk about the impact of AI on certain industries, particularly the software as a service industry, which has been the biggest industry people have invested in over the last 25 years.  Roger also gives us his best insights into what will likely happen in the markets in 2026 and what he thinks will be wise investments this year. And we also answer some listener questions for you.  As always, we loved having this conversation with Roger in the studio. We are so grateful to have found someone that makes us feel safe and relaxed to talk about our finances and empowers us with the tools to take control and feel more confident. We hope you enjoy this episode as much as we did.  This episode is proudly supported by Montgomery Investment Management, trusted experts helping you build and protect your financial future. For further information, please contact David Buckland, Chief Executive Officer or Rhodri Taylor, Account Manager on (02) 8046 5000 or investor@montinvest.com Find out more about Montgomery Investment Management here - https://montinvest.com Find out more about Montgomery private credit funds here -    https://www.montinvest.com/privatecredit Read Roger’s article from The Australian that’s referenced in this article - https://rogermontgomery.com/the-australian-private-markets-offer-refuge-as-the-traditional-60-40-portfolio-crumbles/ Learn more about Roger and read his articles here - https://rogermontgomery.com Buy Roger's book Value.able here - https://rogermontgomery.com/valueable-book/ Follow Roger on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/rogerjmontgomery/ Follow Roger’s YouTube channel here  - https://www.youtube.com/user/rogerjmontgomeryFollow Roger on X here - https://x.com/rjmontgomery Follow Roger on Facebook here - https://www.facebook.com/montgomeryroger/Follow Roger on LinkedIn here - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rogermontgomery/ Follow Nicola and Di on IG here - https://www.instagram.com/overthebackfencepodcast/ Follow Nicola and Di on YouTube here - https://www.youtube.com/@Overthebackfencepodcast/podcasts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    43 Min.
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Di Edwards and Nicola Dale have been best friends for close to four decades & they actually share a ‘back fence’ in Sydney! They share a love of life, a passion for people, and have discovered a simple conversation over the back fence, can change a life and give a sense of belonging .  “We’re not neuroscientists, psychologists, doctors or monks - we just love people - and know with age comes wisdom."

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