Valley of Depth

Payload | Ignition | Tectonic

Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.

  1. VOR 2 TAGEN

    SpaceX Road to IPO, with Jack Kuhr (Research Director of Payload Pro)

    In this episode of Valley of Depth, we sit down with Jack Kuhr, Payload Pro’s Research Director, to unpack what SpaceX has become on the eve of what could be the largest IPO in history. What began as a launch company has evolved into a vertically integrated platform spanning launch, satellites, global connectivity, and potentially AI and compute in space.This is the first in a series of conversations where we’ll regularly update our audience on the latest developments shaping SpaceX and its impact on the broader space economy. We discuss: How Starlink has overtaken launch as SpaceX’s primary growth engineWhy Starlink’s constraints are more likely terminals, regulation, and physics—not satellitesHow international markets are powering the next phase of Starlink’s expansionWhy aviation and maritime are the most underappreciated Starlink verticalsWhether Starlink “Lite” can meaningfully take share from traditional ISPsHow Starship and Starlink V3 could upend Falcon 9 economicsWhy the SpaceX–xAI merger points to a fully integrated space, connectivity, and AI stack• Chapters • 00:00 - Intro 01:09 - Jack's role at Payload and what is it 04:06 - Jack's revenue model for SpaceX 08:06 - Launch and Starlink 09:23 - Is SpaceX privatizing launch or is there less demand? 12:07 - Starlink's current revenue runway trajectory 14:31 - 2026 projects and potential growth pains 16:41 - Starlink constraints 19:00 - US vs international customers 19:53 - Starlink terminal sales 21:10 - What is currently under appreciated about Starlink's verticals? 22:52 - Starlink Light 24:34 - Competition from GEO broadband providers 33:07 - Starship 34:45 - When will Starlink launch their first commercial, non Starlink payloads 38:22 - Is SpaceX serious about space based data centers? 42:06 - SpaceX x Tesla x xAI   • Show notes • Payload Pro’s website — https://pro.payloadspace.com/ Jack’s socials — https://x.com/JackKuhr Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/ Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/ Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/   • About us • Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies. Payload: www.payloadspace.comTectonic: www.tectonicdefense.comIgnition: www.ignition-news.com

    47 Min.
  2. 28. JAN.

    Future of Signal Intelligence (LIVE @ NYSE), with John Serafini (CEO of Hawkeye 360)

    We’re excited to launch a very special edition of Valley of Depth, recorded live from the historic vault deep beneath the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE). Going forward, we’ll be returning to the NYSE each month to host a series of conversations from the heart of global capital markets with the leaders building the next generation of critical infrastructure. In this installment, we sit down with John Serafini, CEO of Hawkeye 360, a company quietly reshaping how governments see and understand the world. While many space companies focus on imagery or communications, Hawkeye 360 is doing something different: listening. By mapping radio-frequency emissions from orbit, the company is turning invisible signals into actionable intelligence, revealing patterns of human behavior that imagery alone can’t capture. We discuss: How space-based RF mapping changes what “global transparency” actually meansWhy signals intelligence is uniquely tied to human activity and intentHow Hawkeye’s multi-satellite architecture enables precise geolocation at scaleWhat it takes to detect dark vessels, GPS jamming, and spoofing in near real timeWhy RF data, software, and proprietary signal libraries form a durable competitive moatHow commercial SIGINT is becoming core infrastructure for governments globally• Chapters • 00:00 - Intro 00:58 - What makes Hawkeye 360's satellites so special? 02:45 - Why is having RF capability important today 04:51 - What were the limitations of RF satellites before now? 06:38 - Why are there so few companies in the RF space? 08:35 - What Hawkeye is able to detect 13:46 - Satellites in a trio formation 17:21 - Fingerprinting points of interest 18:14 - What can Hawkeye 360 track? 21:33 - GPS jamming and spoofing 22:19 - How John got into this business 24:37 - Market size for RF capability 28:00 - Data licenses 30:56 - Next steps for Hawkeye's revisit rate 32:33 - China's capabilities 33:17 - Why did Hawkeye 360 acquire Innovative Signal Analysis (ISA)? 34:28 - Buy vs build 36:43 - John's stance on datacenters in space 37:55 - Investor confidence around Hawkeye 39:50 - The impact of SpaceX going public 42:02 - Is 2026 the year Hawkeye goes public? 44:59 - Will countries start building RF shields? 45:39 - Ultimate goal of Hawkeye • Show notes • Hawkeye’s website — https://www.he360.com/ Hawkeye’s socials — https://x.com/hawkeye360 Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/ Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/ Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/ • About us • Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies. Payload: www.payloadspace.comTectonic: www.tectonicdefense.comIgnition: www.ignition-news.com

    47 Min.
  3. 21. JAN.

    Data Center Debate, with Philip Johnston (CEO of Starcloud)

    As constraints on energy, water, and permitting collide with exploding demand for AI and compute, a once-fringe idea is moving rapidly toward the center of the conversation: putting data centers in space. Starcloud believes orbital infrastructure isn’t science fiction—it’s a necessary extension of the global compute stack if scaling is going to continue at anything close to its current pace. Founded by Philip Johnston, Starcloud is building space-based compute systems designed to compete on cost, performance, and scale with terrestrial data centers. The company has already flown a data center–grade GPU in orbit and is now working toward larger, commercially viable systems that could reshape where and how AI is powered.   We discuss: How energy and permitting constraints are reshaping the future of compute Why space-based data centers may be economically inevitable, not optional What Starcloud proved by running an H100 GPU in orbit How launch costs, watts-per-kilogram, and chip longevity define the real economics The national security implications of who controls future compute capacity   • Chapters • 00:00 - Intro 00:50 - The issue with data centers 02:20 - Explosion of the data center debates 04:58 - Philip's 5GW data center rendering and early conceptions of data centers in space at YC 08:16 - Proving people wrong 11:17 - The team at Starcloud today 12:29 - Competing against SpaceX's data center 14:42 - Sam Altman's beef with Starlink 16:52 - Economics of Orbital vs Terrestrial Data Centers by Andrew McCallip 21:33 - Where are we putting these things? 23:50 - Latency in space 25:59 - Political side of building data centers 28:36 - Starcloud 1 30:16 - Space based processors 30:51 - Shakespeare in space 32:00 - Hardening an Nvidia H100 against radiation and making chips in space economical 34:43 - Cooling systems in space 36:01 - How Starcloud is thinking about replacing failed GPUs 38:46 - The mission for Starcloud 2 40:05 - Competitors outside of SpaceX 40:49 - Getting to economical launch costs 44:35 - Will the next great wars be over water and power for data centers? 46:25 - What keeps Philip up at night? 47:11 - What keeps Mo up at night?   • Show notes • Starcloud’s website — https://www.starcloud.com/ Philip’s socials — https://x.com/PhilipJohnston Mo's socials — https://x.com/itsmoislam Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /   https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/ Tectonic’s socials — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/ Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/   • About us • Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies. Payload: www.payloadspace.comTectonic: www.tectonicdefense.comIgnition: www.ignition-news.com

    50 Min.
  4. 14. JAN.

    Sovereignty in Orbit, with Hamdullah Mohib (CEO of Orbitworks)

    As more nations realize that space is no longer just a scientific domain but a foundation of economic power and national security, a new question is emerging: who will actually build the infrastructure that underpins it? Orbitworks believes the answer lies in sovereign capability: designed locally, manufactured locally, and operated with speed and control. Founded by Hamdullah Mohib, a former national security advisor and diplomat who spent years operating at the highest levels of geopolitics, Orbitworks sits at an unusual intersection of statecraft and space manufacturing. Based in Abu Dhabi, the company is building one of the region’s first commercial satellite manufacturing facilities and developing Altair, a native constellation designed to move beyond raw imagery and toward information-driven services for both sovereign and commercial customers. We discuss: How Orbitworks is building a commercial satellite industry from scratch in the UAEThe strategic logic behind flexible architectures over fixed hardwareHow the Middle East is positioning itself as a serious node in the global space economyWhat it takes to build talent, supply chains, and culture in a brand-new space ecosystem  • Chapters • 00:00 - Intro 00:59 - Hamdullah's journey from government and geopolitics to space 05:11 - What is Orbitworks? 06:25 - Partnerships with Orbitworks 08:43 - A joint venture 09:40 - Partnering with Loft Orbital 17:09 - Differences that founders experience in the Middle East 21:26 - Altair constellation 23:29 - Dual use commercial and government 26:34 - Building a facility in KEZAD 33:02 - Cultivating and nurturing talent 34:30 - How the Middle East is thinking about space 40:21 - Priorities of sovereign wealth funds 42:33 - Lessons in leadership 47:08 - Fundraising plans/goals 48:47 - Hamdullah's vision for space in the Middle East 50:46 - What excites Hamdullah the most about the space industry?   • Show notes • Orbitwork’s website —https://www.orbitworks.space/ Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/ Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/ Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/   • About us • Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies. Payload: www.payloadspace.comIgnition: www.ignition-news.comTectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com

    56 Min.
  5. 8. JAN.

    Grid From Above, with Marc Berte (CEO of Overview Energy)

    We're back to kick off 2026! While the world debates how to power the next era of compute, data centers, and industrial growth, Overview Energy is betting the answer is above us. The company is building infrastructure to beam power from space directly to Earth's grid. Founded by Marc Berte, a nuclear and aerospace engineer who spent his career at the intersection of lasers, spacecraft, and high-energy systems, Overview is developing a constellation of satellites in geosynchronous orbit that absorb sunlight, convert it to near-infrared laser light, and transmit it to existing utility-scale solar projects on the ground. No new receivers required. By using wide-beam, passively safe transmission and off-the-shelf ground infrastructure, Overview aims to deliver dispatchable, redirectable power anywhere on the planet, turning space solar from science fiction into grid-scale reality. We discuss: Why space solar energy is finally viable after decades of false startsHow Overview's architecture avoids the in-space assembly problem entirelyHow the economics work: matching cost curves to high-price markets firstWhy GEO matters more than LEO for grid-scale power deliveryThe role of launch cost as the critical external variableWhy space solar could be the demand flywheel that drives launch costs down for everyone• Chapters • 00:00 - Intro 00:48 - The main problem Overview Energy is solving and why now 04:34 - Why didn’t Marc pursue nuclear fusion/fission? 05:34 - Incubated in Vast 06:32 - State of the art today? 09:58 - Acquisition and beaming down of solar energy and its efficiency 12:23 - Safety, regulatory, and precision constraints 14:54 - Competitive positioning in space solar power 16:20 - Economics of orbital energy vs terrestrial renewables 19:25 - How much more should someone be paying for orbital energy 23:46 - Who will be their first customers? 25:39 - What does the infrastructure look like? 27:39 - Biggest bottleneck for orbital energy 29:34 - Are current launch costs at the level needed for Overview Energy to kick off? 30:27 - Commercial traction 31:46 - Testing and evaluating these systems with the DoD and NASA 33:38 - Early demonstrations and proof points 35:21 - Overview Energy’s space-based demonstration 36:22 - Chinese competition 38:30 - How much more investment is needed to achieve the first gigawatt of power from space? 40:42 - Can terrestrial renewables meet power demands without space-based energy 43:41 - Grid of the future with orbital power in the picture 44:50 - The technical unknowns of orbital energy 48:24 - Powering other space assets 49:46 - What Marc is building when he’s not working at Overview Energy   • Show notes • Overview Energy’s website — https://www.overviewenergy.com/ Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /  https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/ Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/ Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/ • About us • Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies. Payload: www.payloadspace.comIgnition: www.ignition-news.comTectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com

    52 Min.
  6. 19.12.2025

    The Maneuver Gap, with Kerry Wisnosky (CEO of Quantum Space)

    Kerry Wisnosky believes the future of space power will be decided by maneuverability. As satellites remain largely static, Quantum Space is building the infrastructure to move, persist, and operate across orbits, from LEO to cislunar space. The company is developing Ranger, a six-metric-ton, high-delta-V spacecraft designed to operate for up to 15 years, host and deploy payloads, maneuver freely between orbits, and function as a refueling node. By combining chemical and electric propulsion into a single multimode system, Quantum aims to deliver both high-impulse mobility and long-duration efficiency—turning spacecraft from disposable assets into persistent infrastructure. Inside the episode: Why space remains a static domain and why maneuverability is the next decisive advantageHow Ranger reframes satellites from disposable assets into long-lived infrastructureThe strategic importance of fuel in orbit and why refueling changes mission economicsWhy multimode propulsion is the “holy grail” for mobility across orbitsHow life extension in GEO becomes the first commercial wedgeWhat zone defense in space could mean for missile defense architecturesWhy Quantum was early to the market and why demand is finally catching up  • Chapters • 00:00 – Intro 00:45 – From Millennium to Quantum Space 02:56 – Key products at Millennium 03:57 – Evolution of Quantum's vision over the years 06:34 – Ranger 13:41 – 15 years of operational life 16:22 – Acquiring Phase Four 22:25 – Orbital mobility 23:37 – Ranger doubling as a fuel depot 25:51 – Target customers for Ranger 30:52 – Interceptors in space for Golden Dome 33:52 – Quantum Space's competitive edge 35:27 – Are other maneuverability companies viewing the problem the wrong way? 37:18 – Quantum Space's launches 39:24 – What does success look like for Quantum's first Ranger mission? 40:21 – Scaling and manufacturing 43:53 – Why should talent work at Quantum? 45:14 – Quantum Space in 5 years 47:35 – What did Kerry not expect while building Quantum? 48:49 – When is Quantum's next launch?   • Show notes • Quantum Space’s website — https://www.quantumspace.us/ Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /   https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/ Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/ Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/   • About us • Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies. Payload: www.payloadspace.comIgnition: www.ignition-news.comTectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com

    50 Min.
  7. 11.12.2025

    Building Golden Dome, with Lt Gen (Ret) Nahom & Mike Dickey (Elara Nova)

    Lt. Gen. (Ret.) David “Abu” Nahom spent decades defending the American homeland, from commanding Alaska Command and the 11th Air Force to shaping Air Force budgets and strategy as the A8. Mike Dickey started his career in the original Strategic Defense Initiative, helped build the USSF and now advises companies and government leaders on the future of national security. Together, they unpack the realities behind Golden Dome: what it is, what it isn’t, and why it may be the most complex defense undertaking of our time. Inside the episode: Why homeland defense is no longer a Cold War problem and why threats across all domains demand a fundamentally new architectureWhat it actually takes to detect, track, and intercept advanced weapons, from ballistic missiles to hypersonics to low-observable cruise missilesHow command & control is the real bottleneck, and why BMC2 will define the success or failure of Golden DomeWhy integrating F-35s, space sensors, legacy radars, and new AI systems is a social-engineering challenge as much as a technical oneThe role of startups in a mission where “move fast and break things” collides with the reality of life-or-death stakesWhy public perception lags far behind the actual threat picture and what Americans get wrong about homeland defenseThe technologies on the horizon that could completely reshape missile defense in the next decade• Chapters • 00:00 – Intro 00:41 – David's and Mike's Backgrounds 04:01 – How Elara Nova has grown since last episode 05:17 – What makes Golden Dome different? 08:00 – How exposed has the US been to missile threats? 10:53 – What is the Golden Dome supposed to look like today? 14:02 – Not reinventing the wheel 16:38 – Capabilities of today and tomorrow 23:00 – How new modes of launch change missile defense 24:57 – Integrating new solutions with current systems 27:15 – Golden Dome isn't a technology problem 29:41 – How much does ego play into the social engineering challenge of the Golden Dome? 32:47 – Unable to fail in this startup-driven golden age of space and defense tech 36:11 – Risks of the Golden Dome budget ballooning 39:29 – The deterrence calculus 42:12 – How will Golden Dome interface with our allies 44:20 – Exciting defense tech being developed or doesn’t exist yet 46:29 – How putting weapons in space changes things 48:13 – Golden Dome issues they wish were fixed today 50:24 – What everyday Americans don't understand about the Golden Dome 53:01 – Measurable outcomes that the Golden Dome works 54:56 – What Mike and David do for fun • Show notes • Elara Nova’s website — https://elaranova.com/ Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /   https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/ Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/ Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/   • About us • Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies. Payload: www.payloadspace.comIgnition: www.ignition-news.comTectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com

    56 Min.
  8. 04.12.2025

    Railroad to Mars, with Halen Mattison (CEO of General Galactic)

    Halen Mattison left SpaceX because Elon told him his vision was too long-term. He wanted to build the propellant infrastructure that would unlock Mars and everything between here and there, but the timeline didn't fit SpaceX's roadmap. So he started General Galactic to do it himself. His team is developing Genesis, a water electrolysis propulsion system that delivers hydrazine-level thrust and xenon-level efficiency using the safest, cheapest, most abundant propellant in the solar system. The company is targeting an orbital demonstration in 2026, with a long-term vision to operate refueling depots from LEO to Mars.   Inside the episode: • Why the space industry's fear of new technology is creating a sitting-duck opportunityHow water electrolysis unlocks both near-term mobility services and long-term ISRU infrastructureWhat "specific impulse" actually means for mission economics and why it matters more than people thinkThe Starship refueling challenge and why cryogenic propellant depots will work at scaleSequencing from mobility-as-a-service to lunar fuel production to gas stations on MarsWhy consensus-following investors miss the most ambitious bets and how to tell the contrarian story  • Chapters • 00:00 – Intro 01:11 – When did Halen decide to start his own company? 02:18 – What did Halen do at SpaceX? 02:59 – Deciding moment to devote to a career in aerospace 05:16 – The current state and trajectory of Starship 07:53 – What is General Galactic building? 09:50 – General Galactic's products and end goals 12:12 – General Galactic's perspective shift on mobility in space 16:31 – Architecture vs the current market offerings 21:39 – Why is now the time to build a water electrolysis system? 24:27 – Genesis 25:42 – Hardware in space 26:19 – What would a General Galactic demonstration mission look like? 27:13 – What would product 1 look like? 28:15 – Mission capability unlocks and cost advantage 30:56 – Offering a service 31:27 – Origin and evolution of General Galactic 34:59 – Space companies that sequence well outside of SpaceX 36:06 – 4-year prediction if mobility gets adopted 38:39 – Misunderstandings about Starship's refueling logistics 42:01 – Where would General Galactic fit in the Starship ecosystem? 43:25 – What a v0.1 Mars gas station would look like 44:46 – How difficult is it to protect General Galactic's position with water electrolysis? 46:22 – Lessons from being a founder 49:30 – Sequencing   • Show notes • General Galactic’s website — https://gengalactic.com/ Halen’s socials — https://x.com/HalenMattison Mo's socials — https://twitter.com/itsmoislam Payload’s socials — https://twitter.com/payloadspace / https://www.linkedin.com/company/payloadspace Ignition’s socials — https://twitter.com/ignitionnuclear /   https://www.linkedin.com/company/ignition-nuclear/ Tectonic’s socials  — https://twitter.com/tectonicdefense / https://www.linkedin.com/company/tectonicdefense/ Valley of Depth archive — Listen: https://pod.payloadspace.com/   • About us • Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies. Payload: www.payloadspace.comIgnition: www.ignition-news.comTectonic: www.tectonicdefense.com

    53 Min.

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Valley of Depth is a podcast about the technologies that matter — and the people building them. Brought to you by Arkaea Media, the team behind Payload (space), Ignition (nuclear energy), and Tectonic (defense tech), this show goes beyond headlines and hype. We talk to founders, investors, government officials, and military leaders shaping the future of national security and deep tech. From breakthrough science to strategic policy, we dive into the high-stakes decisions behind the world’s hardest technologies.

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