The Bible Bar

Department of Bible, Bar-Ilan University

The Bible Bar – The Podcast of the Bible Department of Bar-Ilan University. Hosted by Dr. Joshua Berman, The Bible Bar offers a guided journey through the Bible, one chapter at a time, in conversation with leading scholars from Bar-Ilan University and across the globe. Drawing on the full spectrum of biblical studies, the podcast translates cutting-edge research into thoughtful, engaging discussions, helping listeners discover new depth and meaning in the text

  1. 13. Juli

    Gen 22 - The Unbinding of Isaac: Beyond Kierkegaard

    Guest: Dr. Aaron Koller. For generations, the Binding of Isaac has been read through the lens of Søren Kierkegaard: the supreme test of Abraham's willingness to obey God, even when commanded to suspend ethics itself. But what if that reading misses the climax of the story? In this episode, we speak with Professor Aaron Koller (University of Cambridge) about a provocative new interpretation of Genesis 22. Koller argues that the story reaches its true theological climax not when Abraham binds Isaac, but when God commands that Isaac be unbound. The Akedah is not primarily about sacrifice—it is about God's rejection of child sacrifice. Along the way, the conversation explores: Why Kierkegaard's interpretation has dominated modern readings of Genesis 22.Why ancient Israelites may not have regarded child sacrifice as an unimaginable practice.Archaeological and textual evidence for child sacrifice among Israel's Phoenician neighbors.Why the command to sacrifice Isaac would have sounded plausible in its ancient context.Why the angel's command, "Do not lay your hand on the boy," is the decisive turning point of the narrative.How Genesis 22 reshapes Israel's understanding of devotion to God.One of the most provocative moments in the conversation comes when Koller insists that we cannot understand Genesis 22 unless we first understand why child sacrifice could have appeared religiously compelling in the ancient world. He argues that: Child sacrifice was not irrational or barbaric to its practitioners but formed part of a coherent religious worldview.From the standpoint of total devotion, offering one's own child could seem an even greater sacrifice than offering an animal.Simply dismissing the practice as monstrous misses the theological force of Genesis 22.The biblical narrative invites readers to inhabit, however briefly, the logic that made child sacrifice attractive before revealing God's rejection of it.In Koller's words, "It's not as simple as just saying, child sacrifice is bad... there are good philosophical reasons why your neighbors do it... and despite that, I reject it."The conversation centers around ideas found in Dr. Koller's monograph, Unbinding Isaac: The Significance of the Akedah for Modern Jewish Thought (Jewish Publication Society, 2020).

  2. 22. Juni

    Gen 19: Lot’s Daughters: Trauma, Revenge, and an Inverted World

    Guest: Dr. Kirsi Cobb. The story of Lot and his daughters (Genesis 19:30–38) is often read as a tale about incest and the origins of Moab and Ammon. But what if that is not the story's primary concern? In this episode, we explore a provocative alternative reading. Drawing on trauma studies, Dr. Cobb argues that the daughters' actions in the cave may be best understood as the response of deeply traumatized women who have witnessed the collapse of their entire world. We examine how the events earlier in Genesis 19—Lot's willingness to hand over his daughters to a violent mob, the destruction of Sodom, the loss of their mother, and the annihilation of everything familiar—reshape our understanding of what happens in the cave. The conversation raises difficult questions about victimhood, agency, patriarchal power, trauma repetition, and the unsettling ways victims can sometimes become perpetrators. Topics Discussed Traditional interpretations of Lot's daughtersThe connection between Genesis 19 and the origins of Moab and AmmonWhy the biblical text offers so little moral commentaryLot's shocking offer of his daughters to the men of SodomTrauma theory and biblical interpretationThe loss of safety, trust, and family in Genesis 19Trauma repetition and reenactmentPatriarchal pressures surrounding lineage and offspringWhether Lot's daughters should be viewed as villains, victims, or something more complicatedHow biblical narratives portray the long-term effects of violenceThe conversation centers around Dr. Cobb's study, "Did Lot Get His Just Desserts? Trauma, Revenge, and Re-enactment in Genesis 19.30-38." Journal for the Study of the Old Testament 47.2 (2022): 189-205.

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The Bible Bar – The Podcast of the Bible Department of Bar-Ilan University. Hosted by Dr. Joshua Berman, The Bible Bar offers a guided journey through the Bible, one chapter at a time, in conversation with leading scholars from Bar-Ilan University and across the globe. Drawing on the full spectrum of biblical studies, the podcast translates cutting-edge research into thoughtful, engaging discussions, helping listeners discover new depth and meaning in the text

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