Alert! Scent Work

Alert! Scent Work

Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for everyone who's fallen down the scent work rabbit hole — and loves it there. Scot sits down with judges, competitors, and community builders from AKC, NACSW, ASCA, UKC, and beyond for the conversations you've always wanted to have but never had time for on trial day. We talk nose work and scent work training philosophy, competition mindset, and the perspectives that shape how we think about this dog sport. We celebrate the wins, laugh at the disasters, and dig into origin stories — because how did any of us end up here, completely obsessed with watching our dogs use their noses? Whether you're trialing every weekend or just discovering K9 nose work and scent work for the first time, this show is about the whole scent work life — the sport, the dogs, and the community that makes it all worth it.

  1. Judith Guthrie | The Judging Framework That Makes You a Better Competitor

    4 DAYS AGO

    Judith Guthrie | The Judging Framework That Makes You a Better Competitor

    When I started out in scent work, I thought it was simple: place a hide, dog finds the hide, call alert. Judith Guthrie started pulling that apart the first time I sat down near her at a trial. What she was saying about odor behavior and how handlers were impacting their dogs blew my mind. Judith brings together a deep understanding of odor theory, dog psychology, and handling strategy all in one place. I didn't even know they were three separate things. In this conversation, she shares her 100 rule — a framework for balancing environment, airflow, hide complexity, and time to create level-appropriate challenges. Understanding it makes you a smarter competitor and a better trainer. She also talks about independence and hunt drive — what to do when your dog isn't in odor right away and how to train for it. And we talk about why not every search should be run the same, and why getting out of your local bubble and showing under judges you've never seen is one of the fastest ways to grow. What we talk about: Judith's origin story — SAR dogs, retired police dogs, horses, protection sports, and how Buddha brought it all into focusWhy scent work was such a powerful tool for a genetically reactive dog — and the important caveat that goes with thatWhat made Buddha and Judith such an effective team — and how she built that foundation from five weeks oldRon Gaunt's thumbs up / thumbs down feedback method — frustrating and brilliant at the same timeThe 100 rule — Judith's judging framework for creating level-appropriate challenges, and how competitors can use it to better understand what's going on in a searchHow time pressure fits into the 100 rule — and why a short time limit isn't what you think it isIndependence — the number one lesson from professional detection work, and why it matters in sport tooHow to build hunt drive in a dog that goes flat when there's no odor at the start lineRegional trends in scent work — why you should be putting yourself in front of judges from outside your areaThe names judges give to odor puzzles — and how closeness and inaccessibility work as modifiersWhy two hides of the same odor close together is not the problem your human brain thinks it isShrimp, demo dogs, and why training a dog to show you the whole odor picture can become a competition problemSeven questions with Judith — including what it means to honor the dog, her signature distractor, and why her dog would call her annoying Find Judith: Facebook: Nose Dogs Detection Services Scent Work University: scentworku.com — search Judith Guthrie for classes and webinars Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for competitors — the parking lot conversations you'd never get to have at a trial, with the judges and community members you wish you had more time with. Listen to the podcast and find everything here: https://www.AlertScentWork.com Follow along: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlertScentWork Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.alertscentwork.com/newsletter/

    51 min
  2. Penny Scott-Fox | Pressure in Scent Work — How It's Affecting Everyone and What We Can Do

    23 MAR

    Penny Scott-Fox | Pressure in Scent Work — How It's Affecting Everyone and What We Can Do

    In scent work, we talk a lot about odor theory, training, and handling technique. But there's something else affecting your performance, your dog's performance, and your experience of the sport that doesn't get nearly enough attention — pressure. Penny Scott-Fox has been watching what it does to competitors, dogs, clubs, and judges, and she wanted to talk about it. Before we get to the main topic, we start with her recent 2 minute and 14 second detective run. I had to ask how that was even possible. What followed was a conversation about how to better train for detective, how to build a dog that drives to odor, and two very different handling philosophies based on the dogs we each have. I think a lot of people will see themselves in this conversation. Then we get into the main topic, pressure in scent work. Through the conversation, we uncovered ideas that will help competitors, trial committees, and judges alike succeed and enjoy the sport more fully. What we talk about: The 2:14 detective run — what made it possible, and what it reveals about foundation training and building a dog that drives to odorWhy dogs that have sailed through the lower levels sometimes hit a wall in detective — and what to do about it in trainingTwo different handling philosophies for detective — Penny's and mine — and why the dog you have shapes everythingPenny's 40th detective Q — and the bronze, silver, and gold detective titles her club awards that AKC doesn't recognizePressure on the dog and how it impacts your partner in scent workPressure on the handler and what both of us do to take the edge off, including Penny's ritual to reduce pressure in obedience (works for scent work too)Why pressure on the handler almost pushed me out of the sport, and the two rules that made it fun againPressure on clubs. What the growth of scent work is doing to trial quality, and how clubs can best serve competitorsPressure on judges, why the push to be the judge that sets sexy hides isn't always good for dogs or competitors, and a conversation about what really makes the sport fun for competitors Find Penny at scott-foxdogtraining.com Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for competitors — the parking lot conversations you'd never get to have at a trial, with the judges and community members you wish you had more time with. Listen to the podcast and find everything here: https://www.AlertScentWork.com Follow along: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlertScentWork Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.alertscentwork.com/newsletter/

    40 min
  3. Ana Cilursu | Seeing Searches the Way Your Dog Does

    9 MAR

    Ana Cilursu | Seeing Searches the Way Your Dog Does

    Many competitors have seen Ana's AKC trial debrief videos — breaking down hide placement, odor movement, and what teams were experiencing in the search area. In this episode, the judge, trainer, and competitor talks about the lessons she has learned from years of watching teams search. Before scent work, Ana had a career in medicine and medical education. She views judging as education — through the hides she sets, the briefings she gives, and the debriefs she shares publicly after every trial. In my observation, that medical background shows up in how she approaches the sport — doctors are always learning, digesting new material, and teaching it to others at the same time. You can see that in how deeply Ana understands odor theory and how dogs work. And if you've ever wondered what the dogs would say about us in the parking lot after a trial — Ana has some thoughts on that too. What we talk about: Ana's origin story — this is a familiar story about how scent work wasn't even the thing until it was the thingThe recurring themes she sees across her debriefs — what handlers consistently struggle with and what the best teams do differentlyClose proximity hides and convergence — why handlers miss them and what to do about itWhy handlers over-handle under pressure — and what the dog thinks about itThe twenty-plus picnic table search — what Ana was testing and why competitors over-focused on the objects instead of the odorHow dogs perceive a search area versus how handlers perceive it — and why that difference mattersAna's distractor philosophy — why she uses food distractors, what she tests with them, and why gummy bears tripped up more dogs than baconWhy the boundaries define where hides are placed but not where odor goes — and how to help your dog collect information outside the search areaRetiring Axel from competition — and why making that call was the right thing for their teamSeven questions with Ana — what she loves to see teams celebrate, her signature distractor, the best compliment she ever received, and what Axel and VI would say about her as a handler Find Ana: YouTube: Ana Cilursu for her AKC trial debrief videos: Training: Rots-n-Nots Nosework Staten Island Companion Dog Training Club — nose work instructor Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for competitors — the parking lot conversations you'd never get to have at a trial, with the judges and community members you wish you had more time with. Listen to the podcast and find everything here: https://www.AlertScentWork.com Follow along: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlertScentWork Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.alertscentwork.com/newsletter/ #ScentWork

    52 min
  4. Sandra Tung | Be a Hot Date for Your Dog

    23 FEB

    Sandra Tung | Be a Hot Date for Your Dog

    One of the first AKC Scent Work judges and an AKC Scent Work Expert Judge, Sandra Tung is also a trainer and high-level competitor who has been in the sport since before AKC even had a scent work program. Much of our conversation revolves around the job of the handler in scent work — which Sandra reinforces with t-shirt-worthy sayings like "be a hot date to your dog," "pay a dog a CEO salary for flipping burgers," and "your dog is the subject matter expert, and you are the manager." If you've ever watched a Sandra Tung student at a trial, you already know these sayings. Her reputation precedes her. We also dig into how to balance honoring your dog's choices with being a good partner, her lazy trainer philosophy for building drive and confidence, and what she actually looks for when she's judging a team — whether they Q or not. What we talk about: Sandra's origin story — from her first Shiba Inu and rally obedience to becoming one of AKC's first scent work judgesWhy the dog is the subject matter expert and the handler is the manager — and what that actually means in a searchBe a hot date — what it means, where it came from, and why it matters more than finding the perfect high-value treat *The difference between a good team and a top team — and why it almost always comes down to the handlerHow to read whether your dog is in a productive area versus an unproductive oneWhy odor doesn't care about boundaries — and what Sandra tells her students about letting their dogs go outside the search areaHer lazy trainer philosophy — training with purpose, keeping sessions short, and why simple hides in new environments will take you further than complicated puzzlesHow running Shiba Inus made her a better handler and trainerTeaching dogs to move on from a hide on their own — and why she didn't realize that was a skill until dog number fiveMemory systems for remembering where you found your hides at higher levelsWhat Sandra looks for when she places hides — and why she loves testing teams on things they don't expectSeven questions with Sandra — her dog's favorite reward, advice for her beginner scent work self, how she bounces back from a tough trial day, and the best compliment she ever received at a trial Find Sandra: AKC Judges Directory — search Sandra Tung to bring her to your trial Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for competitors — the parking lot conversations you'd never get to have at a trial, with the judges and community members you wish you had more time with. Listen to the podcast and find everything here: https://www.AlertScentWork.com Follow along: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlertScentWork Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.alertscentwork.com/newsletter/ #scentwork

    44 min
  5. Vicky Lovejoy | Productive Parking Lot Chatter, Fun Searches, and Inclusivity in Scent Work

    9 FEB

    Vicky Lovejoy | Productive Parking Lot Chatter, Fun Searches, and Inclusivity in Scent Work

    Vicky Lovejoy was there at the very beginning — before formal trials existed, before organizations formed, when a group of enthusiasts in the Los Angeles area were just figuring out what this sport could be alongside founders Ron Gaunt, Amy Herot, and Jill Marie O'Brien. She has been competing and judging across AKC, NACSW, UKC, NASDA, and more ever since. In this episode, Vicky brings a perspective on scent work that very few people can offer — she has seen it from just about every angle, as a competitor, a judge, a trainer, and someone who was there when the sport was invented. Her dogs, by the way, all have an aviation theme. Beryl Markham, the pilot. Amelia Earhart's Lockheed Vega. Bessie the Fire Horse. Gaston — said with a French accent. And Phoenix, the outlier. What we talk about: Vicky's origin story — from a shepherd with elbow dysplasia to being one of the first people to compete in what would become organized scent workWhat hooked her — and why she describes the sport as the dog teaching us rather than the other way aroundHow breed and individual tendencies shape how dogs search — including why her shepherds would catalog hides and check the perimeter before committing, and why herding dogs often go to the back of the search area firstHow judging has influenced how she competes — and a story about forcing a false alert at the end of a long trial day that she still thinks aboutWhat makes a search fun — not just technically challenging, but genuinely enjoyable for dog and handler togetherHow she thinks about setting hides and what she hopes competitors take away from her searchesThe parking lot conversation after a low Q rate — and how to turn post-search analysis into something productive instead of just ventingCherish the engagement — what she means by that and why the bond you build through scent work is unlike anything elseSeven questions with Vicky — her dog's favorite rewards, including touch games and a boing, her signature distractor, advice for her beginner self, and what she wishes more competitors understood about judges Find Vicky: Scent Work University: https://www.scentworku.com/collections/meet-vicky-lovejoy AKC Judges Directory — search Victoria Lovejoy to bring her to your trial Based in Eastern Washington — travels nationally Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for competitors — the parking lot conversations you'd never get to have at a trial, with the judges and community members you wish you had more time with. Listen to the podcast and find everything here: https://www.AlertScentWork.com Follow along: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlertScentWork Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.alertscentwork.com/newsletter/

    37 min
  6. Lisa Quibell | When Scent Work Changes Both Dog and Handler

    26 JAN

    Lisa Quibell | When Scent Work Changes Both Dog and Handler

    For some, scent work is more than a sport and ribbons. It's a shared process that can change both dog and handler in ways you never saw coming. Lisa Quibell is a competitor, trainer, and judge with CWAGS and UKC. She shares how scent work challenged her not just as a handler and trainer, but as a human — and how working with very different dogs has shaped the way she competes and judges. We talk about scent work as a confidence builder for dogs who struggle in the world and for handlers who are still finding their footing. Lisa explores what it really means to let the dog lead, how to recognize when not to interrupt, and why giving dogs real decision-making power changes the search for both dog and handler. We also dig into something most competitors wrestle with — how to celebrate and reward after a search that didn't go your way. And Lisa said something I'm still thinking about: the marker tells them when they did the right thing. The reward is about the relationship. What we talk about: Lisa's origin story — how a friend named Toni kept bugging her about scent work, and why Luna changed everything once she finally said yesI train because of Luna, but I train the way I do because of Stark — what a difficult cattle dog taught Lisa about confidence, calm conversations, and choiceWhy confidence and scent work are more similar than people realize — and why the people who need one often resist the otherWhat overconfidence actually is — and why it's not confidence at allScent work as a safe space — why dogs who struggle in the world often thrive at a trial, and what that does for them over timeThe delicate dance of letting your dog lead — when to follow, when to step in, and how different dogs need completely different things from the same handlerHow having four very different dogs has shaped the way Lisa judges — and why judges who've only run one breed can develop blind spotsLuna's master title — what that ribbon on the wall means, why Lisa has never watched the video, and why she wishes she hadn't been so focused on the goalWhat it means that scent work is a gift to us as handlers — not just to our dogsThe reward sequence after a search that didn't go your way — and why the reward is about the relationship, not the resultWhy the best parties Lisa has ever seen as a judge were for dogs that didn't qualifySeven questions with Lisa — including the advice she'd give her beginner self, what her dogs would say about her as a handler, and why her business is called Quibbles and Bits Find Lisa: quibblesandbits.com Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for competitors — the parking lot conversations you'd never get to have at a trial, with the judges and community members you wish you had more time with. Listen to the podcast and find everything here: https://www.AlertScentWork.co Follow along: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlertScentWork Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.alertscentwork.com/newsletter/

    49 min
  7. Jill Kovacevich | Pathways to Odor

    19 JAN

    Jill Kovacevich | Pathways to Odor

    I almost skipped the Box Mania. Containers sounded boring. But during the session, Jill started narrating the searches and the behavior she was observing. And she talked about pathways to odor. That was one of the moments that split my scent work journey into before-and-after. I almost skipped, and I haven't seen a search the same way since. From clear interstates straight to source, to faint hiking trails that disappear into the overgrowth, Jill explains how dogs collect information long before they reach source — and why searching is a process, not a moment. She also talks about tendrils: the smaller threads of odor that branch off the main pathway, sometimes connecting back, sometimes breaking off entirely. We also dig into how NACSW judging and certifying official roles differ from AKC, how judges determine a yes versus a no in a search — and what happens when a judge realizes mid-trial they got it wrong. Plus the challenge of wearing multiple hats at a trial without letting those roles bleed into your own searches. What we talk about: Pathways to odor — why this framing changed how Scot reads his dog in a searchThe difference between an interstate to source and a hiking trail that disappears into the brushOdor tendrils — the smaller threads that branch off the main pathway and how they help explain pooling and trappingRon Gaunt's influence on Jill — collection of information, the conversation the dog is having, and why Ron hides were set the way they wereWhy scent work made sense to Jill when other dog sports didn't — and what it means to be on even ground with every other dog trainer when a sport is newThe difference between a certifying official and a judge in NACSW — and why AKC combines both rolesHow NACSW works toward consistency across regions so that an NW3 on the East Coast feels similar to one in ColoradoWhat judges are actually evaluating — and what happens when a judge realizes mid-trial they got it wrongThe challenge of hosting a trial and competing in it — and why Jill's results are showing her a different story than the one she tells herselfWhy miles matter more than a pre-search routine — and the ritual Jill doesn't realize she hasSeven questions with Jill — including what she loves to see when she's judging, her dog's favorite reward, the best piece of advice that stuck with her, and what her dogs would say about her as a handler Find Jill: MountainDogs.org Scent Work University: ScentWorkU.com — search Jill Kovacevich K9 Scent Fix podcast — with Aleks Woodroffe Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for competitors — the parking lot conversations you'd never get to have at a trial, with the judges and community members you wish you had more time with. Listen to the podcast and find everything here: https://www.AlertScentWork.com Follow along: Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AlertScentWork Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.alertscentwork.com/newsletter/

    27 min

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Alert! Scent Work is a podcast for everyone who's fallen down the scent work rabbit hole — and loves it there. Scot sits down with judges, competitors, and community builders from AKC, NACSW, ASCA, UKC, and beyond for the conversations you've always wanted to have but never had time for on trial day. We talk nose work and scent work training philosophy, competition mindset, and the perspectives that shape how we think about this dog sport. We celebrate the wins, laugh at the disasters, and dig into origin stories — because how did any of us end up here, completely obsessed with watching our dogs use their noses? Whether you're trialing every weekend or just discovering K9 nose work and scent work for the first time, this show is about the whole scent work life — the sport, the dogs, and the community that makes it all worth it.

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