Trinity Forum Conversations

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Trinity Forum Conversations is a podcast exploring the big questions in life by looking to the best of the Christian intellectual tradition and elevating the voices, both ancient and modern, who grapple with these questions and direct our hearts to the Author of the answers. We invite you to join us in one of the great joys of life: a conversation among friends on the things that matter most.

  1. Leading for the Kingdom with Nicole Massie Martin

    7. OKT.

    Leading for the Kingdom with Nicole Massie Martin

    What does redemptive leadership mean? As Christians, we have a unique calling: not just to lead, but to serve. What does this look like in today’s culture, and how can we serve as leaders and foster an environment of abundant grace and joy wherever we are? Christianity Today’s Dr. Nicole Massie Martin helps us to understand how we can nail outdated models of leadership to the cross, and what it will take to replace them with Biblical ones: “We need to nail to the cross what is a very secular understanding … of [power, ego, and performance], so that what is resurrected through Christ might be redemptive and bring glory to God and good to the people that we lead.” This conversation is from an Online Conversation recorded in May 2025. We hope this conversation will inspire you to identify the ways you lead, and how you can step further into leading with grace, humility, and joy. Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Emotionally Healthy Spirituality, Peter ScazzeroKilling Comparison: Reject the Lie You Aren’t Good Enough and Live Confident in Who God Made You To Be, Nona JonesGo deeper into the issues discussed in this episode with these Trinity Forum Readings: How Much Land Does a Man Need?; Leo TolstoyA Man Who Changed His Times; William WilberforceLetter from Birmingham Jail; Martin Luther King, Jr.Who Stands Fast?; Dietrich BonhoefferNarrative of the Life of Frederick Douglass; Frederick Douglass

    56 min.
  2. Walking as a Spiritual Practice with Mark Buchanan

    23. SEP.

    Walking as a Spiritual Practice with Mark Buchanan

    What does it mean to walk with God? The spiritual life is so often described as a walk, journey, or pilgrimage that it can be easy to dismiss the practice of walking as a mere metaphor. But in God Walk, author, pastor, and professor Mark Buchanan explores the way that the act of walking has profound implications for followers of the Way: “Hurry is the enemy of attentiveness. And so love as attentiveness is listening and caring and noticing, cherishing, savoring, being awestruck, these things that we feel in a relationship. I am deeply loved by this person because they notice me. I think that that’s how God’s built it. And we can’t get that if we’re moving too fast, if we’re in a hurry.” This episode is drawn from an online conversation held in 2023. It’ll give you a sense of what the Trinity Forum is about: a community of people renewing our culture by applying wisdom from the Christian tradition, and nurturing new growth in it, in our time.  If that resonates with you, please join the Trinity Forum as a member, at ttf.org. As we ponder the spirituality of walking, our fall Trinity Forum Reading features naturalist Henry David Thoreau’s ruminations on the art of walking, with an introduction by Trinity Forum President Cherie Harder. Stay tuned for pre-ordering later this week, and join our membership to receive a copy mailed directly to you. Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: AristotleSøren KierkegaardJean-Jacques RousseauGod Walk, by Mark BuchananSimone WeilThe Three Mile an Hour God, by Kosaku KoyamaWanderlust: A History of Walking, by Rebecca SolnitKnowing God, J.I. PackerKai Miller Related Trinity Forum Readings: Pilgrim’s Progress, by John BunyanPilgrim at Tinker Creek, by Annie DillardGod’s Grandeur, by Gerard Manley HopkinsLong Walk to Freedom, by Nelson MandelaBrave New World, by Alduous Huxley Related Conversations: A New Year With The Word with Malcolm GuiteMusic, Creativity & Justice with Ruth Naomi FloydPursuing Humility with Richard Foster and Brenda QuinnReading as a Spiritual Practice with Jessica Hooten WilsonGet tickets for The Rabbit Room's Housemoot. To listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit ttf.org/podcasts/ and to join the Trinity Forum Society and help make content like this possible, join the Trinity Forum Society.

    37 min.
  3. Story, Culture, & the Common Good with Marilynne Robinson

    26. AUG.

    Story, Culture, & the Common Good with Marilynne Robinson

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’re focusing on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Today’s episode concludes our summer series. Our guide today is the acclaimed writer Marilynne Robinson, author of the Gilead series, and much else.  In this episode, originally an Online Conversation recorded in 2020, Marilynne reflects on the art of writing as a means of exploring truth and engaging questions around learning to live well, to love others, and to create a home and community, in our fractious world: “The unique brilliance of a human being … is something that we tend utterly to disparage, demean, utterly fail to notice … every person lives out a [life] beautiful, complicated, inaccessible to other consciousnesses. And it is sacred.” And if this conversation resonates with you, consider joining the Trinity Forum community as a member, at ttf.org. You can find the full video of this conversation there too. Marilynne Robinson's Novels | Housekeeping, Gilead, Home, Lila, Jack, Reading Genesis Article in Breaking Ground from our event. Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Marcel Proust Ralph Waldo Emmerson Paul Harding Walt Witman William Faulkner John Calvin Jonathan Edwards Moby Dick, by Herman Mellville Piers Plowman, by William Langland Related Trinity Forum Readings: Sacred and Profane Love | A Trinity Forum Reading by John Donne Bulletins from Immortality | A Trinity Forum Reading by Emily Dickinson Confessions | A Trinity Forum Reading by Saint Augustine Brave New World | A Trinity Forum Reading by Aldous Huxley   Marilynne Robinson is a novelist, essayist, and teacher, one of the most renowned and revered of living writers. Her novels Housekeeping, Gilead, Lila, and Home have been variously honored with the Pulitzer Prize, National Books Critics Circle Award (twice), a Hemingway Foundation Award, an Orange Prize, The Library of Congress Prize for American Fiction, and the Ambassador Book Award. She's also the author of many essays and non-fiction works, including her work, “Mother Country”, and her essay collections, “Death of Adam,” “Absence of Mind,” “When I was a Child I Read Books,” “The Givenness of Things,” and “What Are We Doing Here?”. She's the recipient of the National Humanities Medal and an elected fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. In addition to her writing has spent over 20 years teaching at the Iowa Writers Workshop, as well as several universities.

    38 min.
  4. Creativity, Reconciliation, and Flourishing

    19. AUG.

    Creativity, Reconciliation, and Flourishing

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’ll focus on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Guided by theologian and musician David Bailey and concert pianist and chamber musician Mia Chung, this episode explores the concept that music involves mutual support, balance, and give and take among musicians to create a cohesive experience. And we reflect on how Christian communities can apply these principles of collaboration and harmony to create faith communities that are transformative: To the extent that the arts can actually cultivate that practice of incorporating the right hemisphere and in communication with the left, it's always together, you know, they're, complimentary. I think we can benefit each other in terms of community formation, but even benefit our own intellectual lives and the amount of joy we experience living in this world. - Mia Chung If this work resonates with you, please consider joining the Trinity Forum community as a society member. This podcast is an edited version of our Online Conversation recorded in June, 2024. You can access the full conversation with transcript here. Learn more about Mia Chung and David Bailey. Episode Outline 00:00 Introduction to Trinity Forum Conversations 00:34 Exploring Music and Christian Community 01:36 Cherie Harder on Cultural Challenges 02:55 Welcoming David Bailey and Mia Chung 04:41 David Bailey's Musical Journey 06:56 Mia Chung's Musical Formation 10:44 The Role of Arts in Reconciliation 13:19 The Power of Music in Community Building 23:17 Reintegration and Reconciliation at MIT 28:52 Challenges and Practices for Reconciliation 30:10 Digital Discipleship and Secular Influence 30:44 The Importance of Fasting and Listening 32:33 Engaging Differently as Followers of Jesus 33:28 The Role of Technology in Information Consumption 34:18 Post-COVID Convening and Empathetic Listening 37:25 The Power of Music and Emotional Expression 40:04 Silence and Contemplative Practices 44:43 Artistic Collaboration and Reconciliation 51:19 Final Thoughts and Encouragement Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Arrabon: Learning Reconciliation Through Community & Worship Music, by David Bailey Related Trinity Forum Readings:Hannah and Nathan, by Wendell BerryPainting as a Pastime, by Winston ChurchillThe Four Quartets, by TS EliotLetters from Vincent Van GoghSpirit and Imagination, selections from Samuel Taylor ColeridgeWhy Work?, by Dorothy SayersThe Loss of the University, featuring the works of Wendell Berry and Jacques Maritain To listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit ttf.org/podcast and to join the Trinity Forum Society and help make content like this possible, join the Trinity Forum Society.

    53 min.
  5. Words Against Despair with Christian Wiman

    12. AUG.

    Words Against Despair with Christian Wiman

    Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’ll focus on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful. Our guest this episode is the poet Christian Wiman, a master of the written – and spoken – word. After long wandering, he returned to the Christian faith in which he’d been raised, in part because of a terminal cancer diagnosis – one he has now long outlived. Both before and after his diagnosis, and his return to faith, his experience of despair has fueled his powerful poetry. In grappling with it, Christian uses words in ways that are a tonic against despair. “I deal with despair because…I don’t know how not to, and it would be an evasion not to. And I think if you don’t feel it, then you’re not paying attention.” This podcast is drawn from an online conversation from 2024. We hope this conversation will resonate with you as you explore the good, the true, and the beautiful in your own corner of creation.  If it does, please consider joining the Trinity Forum community as a member, at ttf.org. You can find the full video of this conversation there too. And while you’re here, please subscribe to this podcast on your chosen platform. Authors and books mentioned in the conversation: Zero at the Bone: Fifty Entries Against Despair, by Christian Wiman Marilynne Robinson Danielle Chapman William Bronk William Wordsworth Every Riven Thing, by Christian Wiman My Bright Abyss: Meditations of a Modern Believer, by Christian Wiman Prayer, by Carol Ann Duffy The Bible and Poetry, by Michael Edwards  Augustine of Hippo Bittersweet, by George Herbert Surprised by Joy, by C.S. Lewis Richard Wilbur Jürgen Moltmann When the Time’s Toxins, by Christian Wiman Related Trinity Forum Readings: Augustine’s Confessions Devotions by John Donne, paraphrased by Philip Yancey God’s Grandeur: the Poems of Gerard Manley Hopkins Bulletins from Immortality, by Emily Dickinson Wrestling with God, by Simone Weil Related Conversations:Connecting Spiritual Formation & Public Life with Michael WearThe Kingdom, the Power & The Glory with Tim AlbertaA Life Worth Living with Miroslav VolfTowards a Better Christian PoliticsChristian Pluralism: Living Faithfully in a World of DifferenceWhat Really Matters with Charlie Peacock and Andi AshworthScripture and the Public Square How to be a Patriotic Christian Life, Death, Poetry & Peace with Philip Yancey The Fall, the Founding, and the Future of American Democracy Fear and Conspiracy with David French To listen to this or any of our episodes in full, visit ttf.org/podcast and to help make content like this possible, join the Trinity Forum Society.

    33 min.

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Trinity Forum Conversations is a podcast exploring the big questions in life by looking to the best of the Christian intellectual tradition and elevating the voices, both ancient and modern, who grapple with these questions and direct our hearts to the Author of the answers. We invite you to join us in one of the great joys of life: a conversation among friends on the things that matter most.

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