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  1. 17/12/2025

    While we wait for EUDR - what could be done to get ready?

    Title: While we wait for EUDR - what could be done to get ready? Author(s): Worm, Loa Dalgaard Description: The EU Deforestation Regulation is entering a period of uncertainty, with discussions around timing and implementation still ongoing. Recorded just one day after a major announcement about a possible additional delay, this episode of Forest for the Future focuses on what companies, authorities, and supply chain actors can do while we wait for EUDR. Rather than revisiting headlines, the conversation moves into the practical realities of readiness. Drawing on insights from a high-level FSC-hosted webinar, the episode explores what competent authorities are likely to check in audits, what due diligence looks like beyond documentation, and where companies are struggling most in practice. You’ll hear directly from enforcement authorities with hands-on experience, legal experts unpacking why uniform implementation matters, and global perspectives on how producer countries and supply chains are adapting. The episode also looks at why systems such as FSC remain essential during this waiting period. Certification, traceability tools, and risk assessments are discussed not just as compliance mechanisms, but as ways to build credible due diligence systems and prepare for long-term forest-positive impact. While EUDR may be delayed or debated, the direction of travel is clear. This episode offers concrete guidance on how to use this time productively — to strengthen systems, reduce risk, and be better prepared for what comes next. Featuring insights from: – EU Commission: Gabor Lovasi – Forest Stewardship Council (FSC): Trevor Armel and Matteo Mascolo – EUDR Dutch Competent Authority: Jessica van Zetten – ClientEarth: Michael Rice – World Bank: Melvin Spreij

    1 hr
  2. 25/11/2025

    Episode 81: What Is Next in FSC Chain of Custody? A Glimpse Into the Revision Process (Episode 1 of 2)

    Title: Episode 81: What Is Next in FSC Chain of Custody? A Glimpse Into the Revision Process (Episode 1 of 2) Author(s): Worm, Loa Dalgaard Description: In this episode of Forest for the Future, we explore one of the most significant ongoing developments in the FSC system: the full revision of the FSC Chain of Custody standard. This framework ensures that materials carrying the FSC label are tracked responsibly through every step of the supply chain, and the current revision may introduce some of the most meaningful updates in more than a decade. Host Loa Worm is joined by César Gonçalves, Programme Manager for Controlled Wood and Chain of Custody at FSC and lead on the revision process, and Emily White, Policy Manager for the same area focusing especially on social requirements. Together they unpack why FSC is revising the standard now, how topics for revision are selected, and which of the proposed changes may have the biggest impact on companies, auditors and the system as a whole. The conversation explores topics including simplification of the system, increased use of risk-based approaches, the potential merging of several standards into one, expanded flexibility for multi-site and group certification, updates to the treatment of pre-consumer materials, and a strengthened approach to workers’ rights. Emily provides a deep dive into the evolution of the social requirements, why further alignment with global labour expectations is needed, and how FSC aims to balance ambition with practicality for companies. The episode also guides listeners through the current public consultation: how to participate, what to expect from the process, and how stakeholder input directly shapes the next iteration of the standard. If you would like to participate in the consultation, find out more here: https://connect.fsc.org/chain-custody-certification/revision-chain-custody-standards This is the first of two episodes on the Chain of Custody revision. In the next episode, we turn to reclaimed materials and FSC’s work to support circular business models with high innovation potential.

    39 min
  3. 25/11/2025

    Episode 82: Reclaimed Materials & Circular Models in FSC: What’s Next for Chain of Custody? (Episode 2 of 2)

    Title: Episode 82: Reclaimed Materials & Circular Models in FSC: What’s Next for Chain of Custody? (Episode 2 of 2) Author(s): Worm, Loa Dalgaard Description: In this second episode of our two-part mini-series on the revision of the FSC Chain of Custody standard, we turn our focus toward one of the most forward-looking elements of the revision: reclaimed materials and circular business models. Circularity is rapidly becoming a central part of how companies think about sustainability, and FSC is now taking major steps to make sure the certification system can support models such as leasing, take-back, repair, and reuse. Host Loa Worm is joined by Morten Brodde, Senior Specialist and Analyst at the FSC Circularity Hub, and Doug Patterson, Director at Renewable Strategies and member of the Chain of Custody Working Group. Together they explore what FSC is doing to enable circularity, why this transition is happening now, and how new requirements on reclaimed materials could reshape the experience of certificate holders and create new opportunities in the market. The discussion covers the types of circular models FSC is evaluating, the challenges of bringing them into a certification system, and what companies may need to adapt in order to meet future expectations. The conversation also touches on pre-consumer wood, the proposals under consultation, and the debate around whether salvaged wood from urban contexts should be included in the standard. This episode provides a clear, practical overview of how circularity may become a bigger part of FSC — and what stakeholders should pay attention to as the first round of consultation opens.

    41 min
  4. 22/10/2025

    Episode 80 – Circular economy in a volatile world: Building resilience through circular systems

    Title: Episode 80 – Circular economy in a volatile world: Building resilience through circular systems Author(s): Worm, Loa Dalgaard Description: In this special episode of Forest for the Future, we dive into the intersection of circular economy, forest resources, and global resilience. Host Loa Worm, in her role as leader of the FSC Circularity Hub, convenes an expert panel to discuss how circular thinking can strengthen resource security in an era of geopolitical volatility. Guests include Luisa Santiago from the Ellen MacArthur Foundation, Nina Grießhammer, Sebastian Mandiola of Arauco, and FSC’s own Fabian Farkas—each bringing a unique perspective on how industries, NGOs, and certification systems must evolve to drive a regenerative, bio-based future. The discussion touches on everything from the 45% of emissions linked to production and consumption patterns to the urgent need to use wood more wisely and the pivotal role of FSC in enabling circular transformation. This episode is an honest, forward-looking conversation about how collaboration, innovation, and leadership can turn the circular economy from theory into action. Topics Covered • The key role of forestry and agriculture in building economic resilience • How companies like Arauco are turning circular principles into practice • The risks of overreliance on virgin wood—and how to rethink its use • Policy gaps and the need for better alignment on circularity incentives • The role of FSC’s Circularity Hub as a driver of systems change

    41 min
  5. 04/06/2025

    Episode 78: Greenwashing and FSC: Is there a limit to what you can say?

    Title: Episode 78: Greenwashing and FSC: Is there a limit to what you can say? Author(s): Worm, Loa Dalgaard Description: Featuring: Trevor Armel, Marketing Director, FSC International and Ana-Maria Băban, Acting Commercial Director, FSC International In this episode of Forest for the Future, we get real about greenwashing—and about how even well-intentioned sustainability claims can fall into murky territory. Loa Worm is joined by Trevor Armel, Marketing Director, FSC International and Ana-Maria Băban, Acting Commercial Director, FSC International, for a candid discussion on what companies can —and can’t—say when promoting their work on sustainability in general and on FSC in particural. And then we dive deep into how upcoming EU legislation could shape the rules for everyone. We explore: • What counts as greenwashing vs. honest communication • Why communicating FSC’s value can be tricky – even for us • Examples of what companies can and cannot claim publicly about their FSC products • How partnerships with high-impact brands are evaluated • The potential effects of the EU Green Claims Directive and the Empowering Consumers Directive • How FSC is preparing to support certificate holders in navigating this evolving space Whether you're in sustainability, marketing, or certification, this episode provides practical insights on the risks and responsibilities of talking about impact.

    55 min

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