Metabolic Mastery

KORR Medical Technologies

Metabolic Mastery, brought to you by KORR Medical Technologies, is the podcast about everything VO2 Max and beyond. Tips on testing, new research, and much more. Hosted by Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber Doctors of Physical Therapy (DPT)

  1. 3 DAYS AGO

    Ep. 41 - Stop Selling Features Start Selling Outcomes With Greg Marshall

    Get A Demo: https://korr.com/contact/video-demo/ In this episode of Metabolic Mastery, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber sit down with Greg Marshall, founder of Fitcher Marketing, to talk about the part of health business that most clinicians avoid: selling. Greg breaks down why "getting more leads" is the wrong target (sales are the target), why great selling is really leadership + empathy, and how to use question-based selling to help people move forward without pressure or gimmicks. They also connect it directly to metabolic testing: if VO₂ max is a "vital sign," then marketing these services isn't hype — it's getting the right message to the people who need it. You'll hear practical frameworks like going three layers deep, addressing the emotion behind objections (warranty, price, "I need to think about it"), and why your best long-term clients are often the "hardest" initial sales. What you will learn Why "more leads" doesn't matter if it doesn't convert into revenue The mindset shift from "selling" to selling to help How to use question-based selling to let clients persuade themselves A simple way to neutralize "I need to think about it" without being pushy How to uncover the real reason behind price, spouse, and warranty objections Why discounting too fast can actually "cheat" the customer How to sell high-ticket health services ethically by selling outcomes, not features How to create a "start small, build the muscle" spending plan for marketing/ad budgets Why congruence (your real personality + core values) sells better than scripts How better selling improves compliance in clinic-based programs   Follow KORR: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korrmedical/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/korrmedical/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/korrmedical https://korr.com/  Listen to the Metabolic Mastery Podcast: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/metabolic-mastery/id1812972674  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sgLMFv1Z8DwEz87yUpapI?si=29a177a6c6ca4ed4  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@korrmed/podcasts  YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCRWXBDdFo_S0OeaAsPv8xTnfajTLc75&si=d4wVUA0jqajkbukB  Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d76834b7-c11a-485f-8010-32b490d49e57/metabolic-mastery

    1h 25m
  2. 3 FEB

    Ep. 40 - 7 VO2 Max MythConceptions: What Most People Get Wrong

    Get A Demo: https://korr.com/contact/video-demo/ VO2 max is having a moment—and with popularity comes misinformation. In this episode of Metabolic Mastery, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber break down the most common myths and misconceptions around VO2 max, why "more breath" usually isn't the problem, and how performance depends on far more than one number. They cover what's actually trainable, why wearables can mislead, how fat burning and VO2 max don't always move together, and why the best program isn't the most intense—it's the one you can recover from and repeat. What you will learn Why VO2 max is not "lung capacity," and what typically limits most people How trainable VO2 max really is—and why "genetics" is often an excuse Why VO2 max alone doesn't predict who wins (threshold, economy, utilization matter) Why VO2 max matters for longevity and mortality risk—not just athletes How Zone 2 and high-intensity work fit together (and why "moderate-hard" stalls progress) Why higher VO2 max doesn't automatically mean better fat burning Where wearables help, where they don't, and how to interpret the data responsibly How metabolic testing can reduce guesswork and improve training decisions   Follow KORR: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korrmedical/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/korrmedical/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/korrmedical https://korr.com/  Listen to the Metabolic Mastery Podcast: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/metabolic-mastery/id1812972674  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sgLMFv1Z8DwEz87yUpapI?si=29a177a6c6ca4ed4  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@korrmed/podcasts  YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCRWXBDdFo_S0OeaAsPv8xTnfajTLc75&si=d4wVUA0jqajkbukB  Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d76834b7-c11a-485f-8010-32b490d49e57/metabolic-mastery

    1h 14m
  3. 27 JAN

    Ep. 39 - First, Do No Harm: How Healthcare Language Shapes Pain, Fear, and Outcomes

    Get A Demo: https://korr.com/contact/video-demo/ "First, do no harm" is supposed to be the starting point for every health professional—but in modern healthcare and fitness, we can unintentionally do harm through fear-based language, incomplete informed consent, and "majoring in the minors" while ignoring the behaviors that move the needle most. In this episode, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber break down how misinformation and nocebo language can increase pain, reduce confidence, and drive people into fear-avoidance patterns that worsen outcomes over time. They also explain why uncertainty is so stressful for patients, how neutral data can create clarity and alignment, and how better testing and better questions lead to better decisions—without unnecessary restrictions or burnout. What You Will Learn What "first, do no harm" means in a modern clinical and coaching context How fear-based or nocebo language can increase pain and reduce adherence What informed consent should include (options, tradeoffs, short- vs long-term consequences) Why pain is not always a sign of damage—and how beliefs can amplify symptoms How the biopsychosocial model reframes pain, recovery, and long-term resilience The hidden harm of low-value interventions and "majoring in the minors" Why bad exercise prescriptions lead to burnout, injury, and dropout How heart-rate zones get misapplied—and why accurate zones support sustainable progress Why the most harmful message is convincing people they're fragile Follow KORR: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korrmedical/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/korrmedical/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/korrmedical https://korr.com/  Listen to the Metabolic Mastery Podcast: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/metabolic-mastery/id1812972674  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sgLMFv1Z8DwEz87yUpapI?si=29a177a6c6ca4ed4  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@korrmed/podcasts  YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCRWXBDdFo_S0OeaAsPv8xTnfajTLc75&si=d4wVUA0jqajkbukB  Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d76834b7-c11a-485f-8010-32b490d49e57/metabolic-mastery

    46 min
  4. 20 JAN

    Ep. 38 - Calories In, Calories Out: True… But Not That Simple (The Real Physiology of Fat Loss)

    Get A Demo: https://korr.com/contact/video-demo/  "Calories in, calories out" is a real principle—but it's not a helpful plan unless you understand what drives each side of the equation. In this episode, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber break down the physiology behind energy balance, why scale weight can be wildly misleading, and why people feel stuck even when they're "doing everything right." You'll hear how appetite, food processing, stress, sleep, and the modern food environment quietly push calories in—while metabolic adaptation, sedentary lifestyles, and declining NEAT (non-exercise activity thermogenesis) suppress calories out. Then, the conversation shifts to what actually works long-term: building sustainable systems, using exercise to "tune up the machine," and focusing on body composition and metabolic health instead of daily scale fluctuations. What you will learn Why calories in vs. calories out is true—and why it still feels like it "doesn't work" in real life The difference between scale weight vs. fat mass, and why day-to-day weigh-ins can create false conclusions How macronutrient shifts, sodium, digestion, and water retention can swing the scale fast without changing body fat The biggest drivers of "calories in": energy density, hyper-palatability, labels/portion variability, absorption, stress, and sleep Why NEAT is often the hidden lever for fat loss (and why "just exercise more" is rarely the answer) What metabolic adaptation is, why plateaus happen, and how RMR testing can guide smarter adjustments How VO₂ testing and heart-rate zones change over time—and why retesting improves results The real relationship between hormones/menopause/aging and body composition (including fat distribution changes) Why fitness can outweigh BMI for health risk—and why "losing weight fast" can backfire metabolically A practical framework to reduce shame: skill gap vs. will gap vs. environment gap Follow KORR: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korrmedical/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/korrmedical/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/korrmedical https://korr.com/  Listen to the Metabolic Mastery Podcast: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/metabolic-mastery/id1812972674  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sgLMFv1Z8DwEz87yUpapI?si=29a177a6c6ca4ed4  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@korrmed/podcasts  YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCRWXBDdFo_S0OeaAsPv8xTnfajTLc75&si=d4wVUA0jqajkbukB  Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d76834b7-c11a-485f-8010-32b490d49e57/metabolic-mastery

    1h 15m
  5. 13 JAN

    Ep. 37 - From Pro Wrestling to Longevity Medicine: Dr. Asa Andrew on VO₂ Max, Performance, and Aging Well

    Follow Dr. Asa Andrews: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrAsa Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drasa/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrAsaAndrew/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drasa Website: https://www.drasa.com/  In this episode of Metabolic Mastery, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber sit down with Dr. Asa Andrew, physician, chiropractor, functional medicine expert, and host of the nation's largest health talk radio show. Dr. Asa shares his unique journey from professional wrestling to clinical practice—and back again—highlighting how metabolic testing, VO₂ max, and cardiorespiratory fitness have become foundational tools for performance, injury prevention, and long-term health. From elite athletes and entertainers to everyday patients in their 70s and 80s, this conversation explores why VO₂ max should be treated as a key vital sign, how it predicts longevity more effectively than many traditional metrics, and why most age-related decline is driven by deconditioning—not aging itself. This episode bridges the gap between healthcare and fitness, showing how actionable metabolic data empowers people to stop guessing, avoid burnout, and take the next right step toward better health—at any age. What You'll Learn in This Episode Why VO₂ max is one of the strongest predictors of longevity and all-cause mortality How metabolic testing improves safety and performance in high-demand sports like professional wrestling The difference between weight loss and healthy weight loss that preserves lean mass Why many signs of "aging" are actually the result of inactivity and lost capacity How VO₂ max and RMR testing guide personalized training and nutrition decisions Why fitness and healthcare must converge to support long-term health outcomes How actionable data helps patients avoid pseudoscience and fitness fads Why it's never too late—or too early—to improve cardiorespiratory fitness Follow KORR: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korrmedical/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/korrmedical/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/korrmedical https://korr.com/  Listen to the Metabolic Mastery Podcast: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/metabolic-mastery/id1812972674  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sgLMFv1Z8DwEz87yUpapI?si=29a177a6c6ca4ed4  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@korrmed/podcasts  YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCRWXBDdFo_S0OeaAsPv8xTnfajTLc75&si=d4wVUA0jqajkbukB  Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d76834b7-c11a-485f-8010-32b490d49e57/metabolic-mastery

    34 min
  6. 6 JAN

    Ep. 36 - Biomarkers 101: Turning Health Data Into Better Decisions

    Get A Demo: https://korr.com/contact/video-demo/ Biomarkers are everywhere in health, fitness, and wearable technology—but more data doesn't always mean better insight. In this episode of Metabolic Mastery, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber break down what biomarkers actually are, why not all biomarkers are created equal, and how misleading metrics can obscure meaningful health decisions. The conversation cuts through buzzwords like "cellular fitness," "biological age," and proprietary health scores to explain the difference between measured, calculated, and extrapolated biomarkers. You'll learn why standardized testing conditions matter, how poor data can lead to decision paralysis, and why the best biomarkers don't give answers—they help you ask better questions. If you've ever wondered whether your health data is actionable or just decoration, this episode provides a clear framework for evaluating biomarkers and using them responsibly to improve real-world health outcomes. What You'll Learn What a biomarker actually is—and why definitions matter The three tiers of biomarkers: measured, calculated, and extrapolated Why more biomarkers do not automatically mean better insight How marketing-driven health scores can mislead patients and clinicians Why VO₂ max is a powerful biomarker—and where its limits are The importance of standardized testing conditions for repeatable results How wearables can create anxiety and decision paralysis when misused Why biomarkers should reduce uncertainty, not add noise How good data leads to better questions—not instant answers A practical framework for deciding which biomarkers are truly useful  Follow KORR: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korrmedical/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/korrmedical/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/korrmedical https://korr.com/  Listen to the Metabolic Mastery Podcast: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/metabolic-mastery/id1812972674  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sgLMFv1Z8DwEz87yUpapI?si=29a177a6c6ca4ed4  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@korrmed/podcasts  YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCRWXBDdFo_S0OeaAsPv8xTnfajTLc75&si=d4wVUA0jqajkbukB  Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d76834b7-c11a-485f-8010-32b490d49e57/metabolic-mastery

    42 min
  7. 30/12/2025

    Ep. 35 - Why New Year Fitness Goals Fail and How Metabolic Testing Fixes It

    Get A Demo: https://korr.com/contact/video-demo/ In this episode of Metabolic Mastery, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber break down why metabolic testing is one of the most powerful tools for improving health, fitness, and longevity—regardless of your current fitness level. From beginners restarting after years away from exercise to advanced athletes stuck in cycles of injury or plateau, this conversation explains why relying on generic programs, social media workouts, or willpower alone often leads to burnout, frustration, and inconsistent results. The doctors explain why VO2 max, while valuable, tells only part of the story—and how comprehensive metabolic testing reveals how your muscles, heart, lungs, and metabolism actually work together. With the right baseline data, fitness becomes personalized, measurable, and sustainable. If you're tired of guessing, restarting every January, or following plans that don't fit your body or lifestyle, this episode shows how better data leads to better decisions—and better outcomes. What You Will Learn Why motivation alone isn't enough to achieve long-term fitness success Why VO2 max is important—but not the full picture of health or performance How metabolic testing creates a personalized fitness and longevity roadmap Why beginners, intermediates, and elite athletes all benefit from testing How improper training leads to burnout, injury, and plateaus Why consistency—not intensity—wins in the long run How metabolic data helps match training effort to real physiological goals Why metabolic testing is a baseline you can't "fail" How testing supports fat loss without sacrificing muscle or metabolic health Why starting with data prevents the cycle of stop-and-start fitness Follow KORR: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korrmedical/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/korrmedical/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/korrmedical https://korr.com/  Listen to the Metabolic Mastery Podcast: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/metabolic-mastery/id1812972674  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sgLMFv1Z8DwEz87yUpapI?si=29a177a6c6ca4ed4  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@korrmed/podcasts  YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCRWXBDdFo_S0OeaAsPv8xTnfajTLc75&si=d4wVUA0jqajkbukB  Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d76834b7-c11a-485f-8010-32b490d49e57/metabolic-mastery

    1h 6m
  8. 23/12/2025

    Ep. 34 - Heart Rate Recovery, METs, and Efficiency: The Metrics That Predict Performance

    Get A Demo: https://korr.com/contact/video-demo/ In this episode of Metabolic Mastery, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber are joined by Daniel Crumback (Director of International Sales at Core Medical Technologies, and Director of Strategic Health & Performance) to break down how physiological testing can uncover the real reason someone stalls in fitness, performance, and health. Most people think VO2 max and RMR testing ends with a score and a set of training zones. Daniel makes the case that's just the surface. By analyzing oxygen and carbon dioxide data (not O2 alone), you can differentiate whether a person is primarily limited by cardiovascular capacity, respiratory mechanics, metabolic flexibility, neuromuscular function, or efficiency—and then build training and nutrition prescriptions around the true limiter instead of guessing. The team also walks through practical interpretations: heart rate recovery, VO2 peak vs VO2 max, tidal volume vs breathing frequency, fat/carbohydrate crossover, peak fat oxidation, and "efficiency" markers like VO2 per breath and VO2 pulse. They emphasize why protocol design matters, how bad assumptions (like mis-set warmups or mislabeled "fat max") lead to wrong prescriptions, and why retesting every 8–12 weeks is the difference between "working out" and actually improving physiology. What you will learn How to identify whether a person's primary limiter is cardio, respiratory, metabolic, neuromuscular, or efficiency The difference between VO2 peak vs VO2 max, and why it matters for prescribing training Why O2 + CO2 measurement unlocks a deeper analysis (fat oxidation, crossover, metabolic flexibility) How to interpret heart rate recovery and what it can indicate about stress and cardiovascular fitness What tidal volume vs breathing frequency can reveal about respiratory limitations and hyper/hypoventilation How to use fat/carbohydrate crossover and peak fat oxidation to spot metabolic dysfunction (and training mistakes) Why "zone 2" prescriptions often fail without correct protocol setup and correct interpretation How METs relate to real-world function and why very low METs can signal broader limitations Two powerful efficiency lenses: VO2 pulse (oxygen per heartbeat) and VO2 per breath (oxygen per breath) A practical retesting cadence: why 8–12 weeks after consistent implementation is the sweet spot  Follow KORR: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/korrmedical/  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/korrmedical/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/korrmedical https://korr.com/  Listen to the Metabolic Mastery Podcast: Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/metabolic-mastery/id1812972674  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2sgLMFv1Z8DwEz87yUpapI?si=29a177a6c6ca4ed4  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@korrmed/podcasts  YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVCRWXBDdFo_S0OeaAsPv8xTnfajTLc75&si=d4wVUA0jqajkbukB  Amazon: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d76834b7-c11a-485f-8010-32b490d49e57/metabolic-mastery

    1h 4m

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Metabolic Mastery, brought to you by KORR Medical Technologies, is the podcast about everything VO2 Max and beyond. Tips on testing, new research, and much more. Hosted by Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber Doctors of Physical Therapy (DPT)

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