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The Way Out Podcast delivers sobriety power topics and powerful recovery stories to inform and inspire your recovery! Join hosts Charlie and Jason, along with remarkable guests, as we recover out loud and celebrate ALL pathways to recovery through real, insightful conversations.

  1. Robert Banghart is Shining the Light of Recovery | Episode 471

    5 DAYS AGO

    Robert Banghart is Shining the Light of Recovery | Episode 471

    Contact: rob@shinealightlv.com    Recover Literature (Quit-Lit)Recommendation: A new pair of glasses by Chuck C. https://a.co/d/aZHIS35   Best Piece of Recovery Advice: Justshow up!    Song that symbolizes Recovery toRobert: Fight song by Rachel Platten - https://youtu.be/xo1VInw-SKc   Resources:   www.shinealightlv.com   www.crossroadsofsonv.com   Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Rob Banghart shareshis profound journey through addiction and recovery. He discusses the pivotalmoments that led him to embrace sobriety, the importance of community andservice in recovery, and the challenges he faced along the way. Rob emphasizesthe significance of daily routines, spiritual practices, and the impact offentanyl on the current addiction landscape. He reflects on his relationshipswith his daughters and the ongoing journey of forgiveness. Through his work inthe recovery field, Rob finds purpose and fulfillment, inspiring others to seekhelp and change their lives. Takeaways Rob's primary substance of choice was heroin, but hestruggled with various substances throughout his journey. Recovery is not just about sobriety; it's about living afulfilling life. Community and connection are vital in the recovery process. Rob emphasizes the importance of spiritual principles in hisdaily life. He believes in the power of service to others as a keycomponent of recovery. Rob's experience in prison was a turning point in his life. He found purpose in helping others who are struggling withaddiction. Fentanyl has drastically changed the landscape of addictionand recovery. Forgiveness, especially regarding family relationships, is asignificant theme in Rob's life. Daily routines and accountability are crucial formaintaining sobriety.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2025 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa(https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 21m
  2. Inside ‘Together’: The Film Redefining Family Recovery | Episode 470

    6 OCT

    Inside ‘Together’: The Film Redefining Family Recovery | Episode 470

    Contact: The FamilyRecovery Documentary Get your tickets to the premiere! https://ticketing.marcustheatres.com/seat/layout?Siteid=2041&FeatureCode=HO00006845&SDate=2025-10-22&STime=17%3A00&Perf=24682 Resources: Thrive Family Recovery Resources Home | Mysite Illume website BALM®Family Recovery - BALM https://www.thecaf.org/ Recovery literature recommendations: Pam- Amazon.com: The Anatomy of Peace (Fifth Edition): Resolving theHeart of Conflict (Audible Audio Edition): The Arbinger Institute, KaleoGriffith, Ascent Audio: Audible Books & Originals Shelly- Amazon.com: The Four Agreements (Audible Audio Edition): donMiguel Ruiz, Peter Coyote, Amber Allen Publishing Inc.: Audible Books &Originals Kathy- BALM® Family Recovery - BALM Song recommendations:  Pam- Tonight! Together: Family Recovery in Richmond &Williamsburg - jasrudeen@gmail.com - Gmail Shelly- Indigo Girls - Closer to Fine (Official HD Video) Pat Benatar - We Belong (Official Music Video) Kathy- Sister Sledge - We Are Family (Official Music Video)   Summary This conversation explores the vital role of family in therecovery process from addiction, highlighting personal journeys, the importanceof support systems, and the creation of a groundbreaking documentary focused onfamily recovery. The speakers share their experiences and insights on howfamilies can reclaim their lives and contribute to the recovery ecosystem,emphasizing the need for compassion, understanding, and proactive engagement inthe healing process. In this engaging conversation, the guests discuss theirdocumentary focused on family recovery, detailing its premiere and futurescreenings. They emphasize the importance of community outreach and engagement,sharing personal routines and influential literature that shaped their recoveryjourneys. The discussion also touches on valuable advice for those strugglingwith addiction and the significance of music in family recovery. The episodeconcludes with heartfelt encouragement for listeners to seek help and stayconnected.   Takeaways Family members are integral to the recovery process. Recovery is a holistic journey that involves the entirefamily. The documentary aims to fill the gap in understanding familyroles in recovery. Personal experiences shape the approach to family recovery. Support systems are crucial for both individuals andfamilies in recovery. The power of one can change the trajectory of familydynamics. Education and awareness are key in addressing addiction. Compassionate approaches can replace outdated tough loverhetoric. The documentary showcases actionable solutions for families. Creating a healthy ecosystem is essential for recovery. Thedocumentary aims to impact families dealing with addiction. Community engagement is crucial for spreading awareness. Daily routines help maintain focus and intention inrecovery. Literature like 'The Anatomy of Peace' offers valuableinsights. Setting boundaries is essential for personal well-being. Music plays a significant role in family recovery. The importance of unconditional positive regard inrelationships. Creating a family recovery movement can foster support. It's vital to embrace loved ones as unwell, not bad. Connection and communication are key to healing. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2025 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed underCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 33m
  3. Recovery Is The Real-Life Hero’s Journey with Micheal Z | Episode 469

    29 SEPT

    Recovery Is The Real-Life Hero’s Journey with Micheal Z | Episode 469

    Michael Z:   Wisdom of the Rooms (Book and Daily Email List) - https://thewisdomoftherooms.com/ Twelve Steps: A Modern Hero’s Journey - https://a.co/d/a3j1a1j   Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendations: Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book Sermon on the Mount - https://a.co/d/gQ0zjwE   Best piece of Recovery advice: Find someone to be honestwith, a mentor or sponsor   Stairway to Heaven by Led Zepplin - https://youtu.be/iXQUu5Dti4g Heroes by David Bowie - https://youtu.be/lXgkuM2NhYI   Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Michael Z shares hisprofound journey of recovery, emphasizing the importance of the 12 steps andthe hero's journey. He discusses the significance of morning pages, serving therecovery community, and the role of quotes in maintaining a positive mindset.Michael reflects on the nature of worry, the power of a higher power, and thetransformative process of letting go of old habits. He draws parallels betweenthe hero's journey and recovery, highlighting the importance of mentors, theabyss of self-reflection, and the ultimate goal of sharing one's experience toheal others. The conversation concludes with insights on daily recoverypractices, forgiveness, and the empowering nature of music in recovery.   Takeaways Recovery is a journey of self-discovery and transformation. Morning pages help clear negativity and foster gratitude. Serving the recovery community is a vital part of healing. Quotes can provide strength and inspiration in recovery. Worry is a waste of imagination and energy. Recovery is about aligning with a higher power's will. The hero's journey mirrors the recovery process. Letting go of old habits is essential for transformation. Daily practices are crucial for maintaining recovery. Forgiveness is a continuous process in recovery. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableeonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2025 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed under CCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 19m
  4. Silencing the Voice of Alcohol with Dr. Larry Smith | Episode 468

    22 SEPT

    Silencing the Voice of Alcohol with Dr. Larry Smith | Episode 468

    Dr. Larry Smith Author of Johnnie and Me: Facing the Voiceof Alcohol Within, Retired Chiropractor, Person in Long Term Recovery https://www.drlarrysmithauthor.com/   Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation: Count Your Blessings by John F. Demartini - https://a.co/d/70wltK0   Best piece of Recovery advice: Practice Gratitude   Take it Easy by The Eagles - https://youtu.be/32Oc2d_3yEk   Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Dr. Larry Smithshares his profound journey through addiction and recovery, discussing hisexperiences with various substances, the impact of trauma, and the importanceof authenticity and service in recovery. He emphasizes the significance ofcommunity support, the challenges faced during recovery, and the transformativepower of writing. Dr. Smith also highlights the importance of gratitude anddaily practices in maintaining sobriety, while sharing insights from his newbook, 'Johnny and Me: Facing the Voice of Alcohol Within.'   Takeaways Recovery is about living authentically and embracing who youare. The journey of recovery is often long and requiresresilience. Serving the recovery community is a vital part of healing. Trauma can have lasting effects, but healing is possible. Writing can be a powerful tool for processing experiences. Daily practices and routines are essential for maintainingsobriety. Forgiveness is a journey that takes time and effort. Connection with others in recovery fosters understanding andsupport. Gratitude can transform the way we experience life. Sharing our stories can inspire hope in others.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available eonlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2025 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa(https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠)licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 21m
  5. Dave & Cherish on How Running to God to Brings Joy & Healing | Episode 467

    14 SEPT

    Dave & Cherish on How Running to God to Brings Joy & Healing | Episode 467

    Contact Dave: 612-414-5575 Contact Cherish: 719-851-0143 Recovery literature recommendation: The Bible Best Advice: "Be Obedient" and "Embrace yourpain" Songs that symbolize recovery to Cherish: The Blood by Bethel Music, Jenn Johnson, feat. Mitch Wong - https://youtu.be/4DtiMf1xoLM Look What You've Done by Tasha Layton - https://youtu.be/ZyfUdwGBjtk?si=kljGO_Mo62x-njow Dave's pick: Black Sheep by Ben Fuller - https://youtu.be/erc4IeGwfjk?si=9fA05JkFs38t7UeT   Takeaways Cherish's drug of choice was methamphetamines andcodependency. Dave grew up with an alcoholic father, which influenced hischoices. Recovery means community and plugging into the church forCherish. Dave has been serving the recovery community for 25 years. Cherish is passionate about eradicating homelessness andaddiction. Both Cherish and Dave emphasize the importance of prayer inrecovery. Cherish's relationship with her daughter has improvedsignificantly through recovery. Dave's ministry focuses on helping those who feel lost andhopeless. The joy of the Lord is a central theme in theirconversations. Cherish and Dave believe in the power of divineappointments. Cherish highlights the transformation of a friend through faithand community involvement. God's patience and grace are central to the recoveryprocess. Forgiveness is essential for personal healing and growth. Living out one's purpose in Christ brings joy andfulfillment. Daily routines can significantly impact spiritual health andrecovery. The Bible is a powerful tool for guidance andtransformation. Advice to put God first can change one's perspective onlife. Protecting sobriety is crucial, akin to caring for anewborn. Music can serve as a healing tool in recovery. Running to God, not away from Him, is vital for healing.   Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, hosts Jason, CherishBlowers, and Dave Johnson discuss their personal journeys through addiction andrecovery. Cherish shares her struggles with methamphetamines and codependency,while Dave reflects on his upbringing with an alcoholic father. Both emphasizethe importance of community, prayer, and mentorship in the recovery process.They highlight the transformative power of faith and the joy of serving others,as well as the vision for Lost Sheep Ministries, which aims to help those inneed. The conversation is filled with personal stories, insights, and a sharedcommitment to helping others find hope and healing. In this conversation,Cherish Blowers and Dave share their transformative journeys of faith,recovery, and community. They discuss the importance of understanding God'svoice, the power of forgiveness, and the significance of daily routines inspiritual growth. They also reflect on impactful literature, the challengesfaced in recovery, and the healing power of music. Their parting messagesemphasize hope, encouragement, and the importance of running to God in times ofstruggle.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2025 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensedunderCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 42m
  6. Unmasked: Serena Palmer on ADHD, Addiction & Recovery | Episode 466

    7 SEPT

    Unmasked: Serena Palmer on ADHD, Addiction & Recovery | Episode 466

    Reach out to Author, ADHD Coach and person in long termrecovery Serena Palmer: https://www.serena.consulting/   My Two Brains and Me by Serena Palmer: https://a.co/d/b7Y9qA5   More about box breathing: https://www.verywellhealth.com/box-breathing-8423967   Recovery Literature (quit-lit) recommendation: 24 Hours a Day - https://a.co/d/6Y9iXqe   Best piece of Recovery advice: Stay in your own lane   Song that symbolizes Recovery to Serena:   When Doves Cry by Prince: https://youtu.be/UG3VcCAlUgE?si=zYBo7-63wDb6nDRO   Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Serena Palmer sharesher journey through recovery and her experiences with ADHD. She discusses theconnection between ADHD and addiction, the importance of recovery communities,and the role of social media in raising awareness about ADHD. Serena alsohighlights the unique challenges faced by women with ADHD and the impact ofsocietal expectations on their experiences. Through personal anecdotes, sheillustrates the complexities of addiction and the journey to self-acceptanceand healing. In this conversation, Serena Palmer shares her profound journeythrough addiction and recovery, detailing the escalation of her drinking, thebreaking point that led to her seeking help, and the ongoing challenges shefaces in maintaining sobriety. She discusses the insanity of addiction, theturning point in her recovery, and the importance of embracing learning andpersonal growth. Serena emphasizes the power of daily recovery practices, thesignificance of forgiveness, and the role of music in her healing process. Herstory is one of resilience, self-discovery, and the continuous journey ofrecovery.   Takeaways Recovery is about freedom of choices and believing in magic. Many people with ADHD may not realize they are addicts. Social media can be a powerful tool for ADHD awareness. ADHD symptoms can be exacerbated by hormonal changes. Women often experience ADHD differently than men, leading tolate diagnoses. The journey of recovery is often intertwined withunderstanding one's ADHD. Emotional regulation is a significant challenge for thosewith ADHD. Masking behaviors can lead to exhaustion and addiction. Personal stories of addiction can help others feel lessalone. Recovery is a continuous journey that requires honesty andsupport. Binge drinking escalated to dangerous levels. Addiction leads to a cycle of self-loathing and harm. The breaking point often comes unexpectedly. Recovery requires facing painful truths. Daily practices are essential for maintaining sobriety. Forgiveness is a crucial part of healing. Emotional regulation is a learned skill. Music can be a powerful tool in recovery. Self-discovery is a continuous journey. Quality of sobriety matters more than duration.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” available onlyon Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2025 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved. ThemeMusic: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed underCCBY-NC-ND4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    2h 8m
  7. Cocaine, Camouflage, & Coming Clean with Andrew Mercado | Episode 465

    1 SEPT

    Cocaine, Camouflage, & Coming Clean with Andrew Mercado | Episode 465

    Contact Andrew: mercado.media.productions@gmail.com Best Piece of Recovery Advice: One day at a time Song recommendation: Not Afraid by Eminem - https://youtu.be/j5-yKhDd64s Check out Mercado Media on YouTube Mercado Media – https://www.youtube.com/@mercadomedia Takeaways Andrew Mercado shares his journey from addiction to recovery. He emphasizes the importance of community and sharing one's story. Recovery is a personal journey that varies for everyone. The military provided structure that helped him avoid addiction during service. Addiction can manifest in various forms, even for those with supportive backgrounds. Cocaine addiction led to reckless behavior and near-miss encounters with law enforcement. Treatment experiences can differ greatly, and not all programs work for everyone. Andrew highlights the need for more veteran-focused recovery resources. He reflects on the importance of living recovery out loud to help others. The conversation underscores that addiction does not discriminate based on background. Surrendering control is essential for recovery. Hyper-focusing on recovery can lead to success. Quitting smoking is a personal journey with challenges. Mercado Media was born out of a desire for unfiltered news. COVID-19 changed the landscape of media reporting. Engaging with the community is vital for media success. War journalism presents unique challenges and experiences. Recovery is a continuous journey with ups and downs. Forgiveness is a crucial part of healing. Music can be a powerful symbol of recovery. Summary In this episode, Andrew Mercado shares his personal journey from being a cocaine addict to finding recovery and purpose. He discusses the impact of his military background, the challenges of transitioning to civilian life, and the importance of community in recovery. Andrew reflects on his experiences with addiction, the consequences he faced, and the wake-up calls that led him to seek help. He emphasizes the need for more veteran-focused recovery resources and the significance of living recovery out loud to inspire others. In this conversation, Andrew Mercado shares his journey from addiction to recovery and the founding of Mercado Media. He discusses the importance of surrendering control in recovery, the challenges of quitting smoking, and the impact of COVID-19 on media reporting. Andrew highlights the significance of engaging with the community and the unique experiences of war journalism. He emphasizes the continuous nature of recovery, the importance of forgiveness, and the power of music as a symbol of recovery. Throughout the discussion, Andrew offers encouragement to those struggling with addiction, reminding them that recovery is a personal journey that can lead to success and fulfillment. Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast! https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA (c) 2015 - 2025 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed underCCBY-NC-ND4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    2h 14m
  8. From Addiction & Fetishization to Recovery & Self Acceptance with Kaila Yu | Episode 464

    24 AUG

    From Addiction & Fetishization to Recovery & Self Acceptance with Kaila Yu | Episode 464

    Learn more about Kaila Yu: https://kailayu.com/   Recovery literature (quit-lit) recommendation:  AA Big Book - https://www.aa.org/the-big-book   Best piece of Recovery advice: It's all happening FOR me   Song that symbolizes Recovery to Kaila: Welcome to the Jungle Guns N’ Roses - https://youtu.be/o1tj2zJ2Wvg   Takeaways:   Kyla has been sober for nearly 12 years, emphasizing theimportance of community in recovery. Emotional sobriety is as crucial as physical sobriety in therecovery journey. Kyla's strict upbringing contributed to her feelings ofinadequacy and social anxiety. The first experience with ecstasy provided a sense of joyand acceptance that was previously missing. Cocaine use escalated quickly, leading to a loss of controland moral decline. Kyla's music career was intertwined with her substance use,leading to significant challenges. Service to the recovery community is essential formaintaining sobriety. Writing became a therapeutic outlet for Kyla, leading to herupcoming book. Sharing personal stories helps to break stigma and shameassociated with addiction. Kyla's journey illustrates the importance of forgiveness andself-acceptance in recovery. Summary In this episode of The Way Out Podcast, Kyla shares herjourney of recovery from addiction, emphasizing the importance of emotionalsobriety, community support, and the power of storytelling. She discusses herexperiences with substance use, the impact of her upbringing, and how she foundhealing through writing and service to others. Kyla's insights highlight thecomplexities of recovery, including the challenges of feeling emotions and thesignificance of forgiveness and self-acceptance. Her upcoming book,'Fetishized,' explores themes of identity and empowerment, showcasing hergrowth and resilience throughout her recovery journey.   Don’t forget to check out “The Way Out Playlist” availableonly on Spotify. Curated by all our wonderful guests on the podcast!   https://open.spotify.com?episode/07lvzwUq1L6VQGnZuH6OLz?si=3eyd3PxVRWCKz4pTurLcmA   (c) 2015 - 2025 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved.Theme Music: “all clear” (⁠⁠⁠https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/)byKetsa (https://ketsa.uk⁠⁠⁠) licensed underCCBY-NC-ND4.0 (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd)

    1h 16m
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