The Partial Historians

The Partial Historians

Join Dr Rad and Dr G as we discuss, spar, and laugh our way through different aspects of the ancient Roman world! Our main series 'From the Foundation of the City' follows Roman history year by year from the traditional foundation date of 753 BCE. We also interview academics and specialists from around the globe for their insights into history and the representation of Rome and the ancient Mediterranean in popular culture. Dr Fiona Radford is an expert on Rome on film and wrote her thesis on Kubrick’s Spartacus. Dr Radford is exponent of not only Ancient History, but also Reception Studies. Dr Peta Greenfield is an expert on the Vestal Virgins. Dr Greenfield’s research interests include: religion and politics in Rome, the late republic and Augustan period, and the role of women. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  1. hace 4 h

    Throwing the Standard

    It is 386 BCE (maybe?) in Ancient Rome and once more Livy is providing our underlying narrative for events. The timeline is pretty confusing in this decade.  All Hail Camillus!  Whilst the tribune of the plebs were still agitating for control of the Pomptine territory, there was remarkable harmony between the patricians who were appointed as military tribunes with consular power. Camillus had been voted into power, and the rest of his colleagues decided to fall in line and follow his lead, especially once it became clear that war was on the horizon. The Romans would have liked to teach their former allies, the Latins and Hernici, a lesson. The Etruscans also seemed to be up to something. However, it would end up being the Volscians who attracted Rome’s attention. According to some “fugitives” who showed up in Rome, problems were arising in Antium, a very important Volscian coastal town. It was time for Camillus to get down to business. The Romans were not ignoring warnings any more after everything that had happened with the Gauls! Lesson learned. All Systems Are Go  Camillus went into war preparation mode, organising three forces under his fellow military tribunes. One section of the army would serve under Camillus himself and his sidekick Valerius, one would keep a lookout for any attacks from the Etruscans, and the final section, made up of the men who were too old or decrepit to serve anywhere else, would guard the city itself. The Senate and the Roman people were filled with positivity, not only because Camillus was an angel sent from heaven, but because of this amazing display of teamwork. Why can’t elite dudes always be this selfless?  With that sorted, Camillus and Valerius were off to Satricum, where some of the troublemakers from Antium were gathering up some Volscian forces and also a large number of ‘volunteers’ from the Latins and Hernici. Ouch! The Romans were devastated to see that their former allies would do them dirty like that!  Throwing the Standard  Camillus knew these sad sacks in front of him were not going to be able to secure victory - not unless they had one of the best pep talks in HISTORY! Jumping on his horse, Camillus delivered immortal words: “Everything is awesome, everything is cool when you’re part of this team!” But he could not stop with mere words. Actions are what count. Camillus ended his speech by leading the charge himself, either dragging the nearest standard-bearer with him into the fray or throwing the standard into the enemy forces. Baller move, Camillus!  Well, the Romans could not allow the standards to fall into Volscian hands. Suitably inspired, a furious battle ensued. Even with passion on their side, the Romans were still vastly outnumbered. Would they secure another triumph for Camillus? And would he then be able to finally turn his attention to the root of the problem, Antium?  Join us to learn all about Camillus’ history, and a bit about Rome too.  Things to Look Out For:   Sad, sensitive little Roman soldiers A remarkably easy siege Betrayal upon betrayal!Dr G’s jet lag - she’s a trooper! Dr Rad realising that maybe it was meant to be Hernicans (not Hernicians) all this time? An archaeological find that makes Livy look like a GENIUS historian - just saying!  For our full show notes and edited transcripts, head on over to https://partialhistorians.com/ Support the show Patreon Ko-Fi Read our books Rex: The Seven Kings of Rome Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  2. 30 jul

    Fatal Second Helen with Josh Cannon

    n this special episode we’re joined by Josh Cannon who holds a PhD in near eastern languages and civilizations from the University of Chicago. Prior to this, Josh was a member of the US Marine Corps and served in two tours of Iraq as an Arabic cryptologic linguist. We sat down with Josh to chat about his book Fatal Second Helen: A Modern Veteran’s Iliad which brings together his lived experience of military service with the ideas that emerge from Homer’s epic poem. Things to listen out forModern versus ancient conceptions of gloryThe power of translation to inspireConnections between near eastern mythology and Homer’s IliadThe shared stories of the Hittites and the Ionian GreeksThe way the consequences of modern warfare can help us understand the depictions of warfare in the ancient world betterBooks and scholars mentioned in this interviewEpic of Gilgamesh - There are many translations of this epic, one of the most recent is that of Simon Armitage Translations of Homer’s Iliad and OdysseyRobert Fagles - The Iliad (1998) Robert Fagles - The Odyssey (1996) Richard Lattimore - The Iliad Stanley Lombardo - The Iliad (1997) Emily Wilson - The Odyssey (2017) Emily Wilson - The Iliad (2023) Spartan poet Tyrtaeus Bachvarova, M. R., From Hittite to Homer: The Anatolian Background of Ancient Greek Epic (2016, Cambridge University Press) Carolina López-Ruiz, When the Gods Were Born: Greek Cosmogonies and the Near East (Harvard University Press, 2010) Patrick Shaw-Stewart’s untitled poem “I saw a man this morning” Jonathan Shay, Achilles in Vietnam: combat trauma and the undoing of character (2004, Scribner) Martin West, The East Face of Helicon: West Asiatic Elements in Greek Poetry and Myth (1999, Oxford University Press) For our full show notes and edited transcripts, head on over to https://partialhistorians.com/ Support the show Patreon Ko-Fi Read our books Rex: The Seven Kings of Rome Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  3. 23 jul

    Fulvia with Kaarina Parker

    The late republic of Rome is a tumultuous time in more ways than one and it opens up the possibility for elite women to be part of Rome’s political project in more overt ways than previously recorded in the ancient evidence. It is this milieu which is the launching point for Kaarina Parker’s debut novel Fulvia, which takes us into the world of the elite Roman women through the eyes of one of the biggest movers and shakers, Fulvia. As the wife of several high profile Roman men during her life, Fulvia's place in history is significant and by offering a fictionalized account of her world, Parker provides a gateway into the extremely interesting political machinations that were part of the last century of the Roman republic. Fulvia’s marriage stand as a record of her influence… Parker’s novel navigates Fulvia’s arrival in Rome and her first marriage to Publius Clodius Pulcher. The next novel in the duology will explore Fulvia's life as she goes on to have marriages with Gaius Scribonius Curio and Marcus Antonius. Join us as we consider the historical sources that have inspired Parker’s novel as well as the important idea of maintaining separation between history and historical fiction. Texts mentioned in this interview: Parker mentions Dr Jane Draycott’s book on Fulvia: Fulvia: The Woman Who Broke All the Rules in Ancient Rome and we also have an interview with Draycott on Fulvia, which we recommend you check out to if the details of Fulvia’s life intrigue you.Dr G mentions Colleen McCullough's Master of Rome series as a point of comparison with Fulvia. For our full show notes and edited transcripts, head on over to https://partialhistorians.com/ Support the show Patreon Ko-Fi Read our books Rex: The Seven Kings of Rome Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  4. 9 jul

    Of Mars and Marshes

    It’s 387 BCE and Rome is working on getting back of her feet. What’s even happening in Rome? It can be hard to tell because of the nature of the extant sources and just how much seems to be missing. The Gallic Sack casts a long shadow over Rome, it was just a couple of years ago but the consequences of the situation linger. Livy notes that Rome is continuing its rebuilding program. Land Allotment Anyone?If there’s one thing you can count on in this era, it’s the cyclical focus on war and land allotment. And we have a tribune of the plebs on the record, which is a hint that there’ll be agitation for agrarian reform. We know this has a literary legacy for our late Republican writers like Livy, but that’s not to say that there wasn’t a need to reform in the middle republic. Enter stage right: the Pomptine Marshes! A Temple to MarsBack during the conflict with Gauls, the Romans had vowed to establish a temple to Mars. And we’re finally up to the dedication of the temple in 387 BCE. This is an exceptionally important event for the Romans as it is way of cementing their relationship with Mars. A temple requires some specific activities to establish and seems to have involved the duumvirs for the sacred things. Side Quest: CarthageDid you know that Carthage invaded Italy in 387 BCE? Neither did we, but here we are. The rivalry between the Carthaginians and the Sicilians is starting to hot up but unfortunately a quick plague makes everything very unpleasant. Things to listen out for:Volscians and Aequians just over the horizonWho can fix it? Bob the BuilderLivy and the post-Gracchan worldAn increased interest in ensuring divine favourIt’s time for an interregnum!The Sibylline Books and their contentsNew tribes for the Romans?A Sardinian and Libyan revolt?Four new voting tribes: Stellatina, Tormentina, Sabatina, and Arniensis For our full show notes and edited transcripts, head on over to https://partialhistorians.com/ Support the show Patreon Ko-Fi Read our books Rex: The Seven Kings of Rome Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  5. 25 jun

    The Lost Voices of Pompeii with Dr Jess Venner

    We feel extremely fortunate to sit down and talk to Jess Venner and her debut book, The Lost Voices of Pompeii. This book takes you through the final twenty-four hours in the lives of several of the residents of the city, from slaves to politicians to business women. Dr Jess Venner Dr Jess Venner earned her PhD in Classics, Ancient History, and Archaeology from the University of Birmingham in 2018. She currently holds the Leverhulme Early Career Fellowship at the University of Oxford. Jess is well known for her popular outreach via her channel ‘Life in the Past Lane’, and you can check this out on TikTok, YouTube, Substack and Instagram. You can also find out more about her various achievements at her website. Thing to Look Out For: ·        The importance of material culture in understanding past lives ·        The role of critical fabulation in constructing history ·        The life of Aulus Umbricius Scaurus – The Ketchup King of Pompeii ·        The cult of Isis – we feel a serious case of Egyptomania coming on! Get a doctor, quick! ·        The fate of the survivors of the eruption – an oft-overlooked group ·        Exciting new projects in the works for Dr Venner – keep your eyes peeled! We are certain that you will want to grab your own copy of The Lost Voices of Pompeii after hearing all about Dr Venner’s extensive research and huge passion for her subjects. This book manages to combine a compelling story with the lates archaeological evidence from the site. Find it where all good books are sold from April 23! Sound Credits Our music is by Bettina Joy de Guzman. For our full show notes and edited transcripts, head on over to https://partialhistorians.com/ Support the show Patreon Ko-Fi Read our books Rex: The Seven Kings of Rome Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  6. 11 jun

    We Built This City on Big Hewn Stones

    Welcome back to Rome’s rebuilding era! It’s a year of reasserting dominance, crafting fancy hewn stones for building works, and getting the citizen body back in order. Camillus in Triumph After seemingly managing to defeat three of Rome’s enemies at once, Camillus was back in Rome, basking in his glory. Unfortunately, his success seems to have meant a life in slavery for many of the conquered people. Camillus auctioned these prisoners off, using the proceeds to pay back the Roman matrons and buy the city some gold bowls, engraved with his name. Citizens of Rome The Romans were trying to get back to business as usual after the Gallic sack. This involved granting citizenship to any people who had switched sides during the conflicts of the past decade or so. Welcome to the cleerrrb. There were also some reluctant Roman citizens still hanging out in Veii, and that just would not do. The senate issued a decree ordering them back to Rome – OR ELSE. Renovating Rome The Romans had to do some rebuilding after the Gallic sack, as we know, but why not make some improvements whilst they were at it? Livy records that the Capitol was given a substructure of hewn stone, which he thought was still impressive in his own time. Spiteful Skirmishes Never a city that revels in peace, the Romans decided to attack some of the people who had tried to take advantage of their moment of weakness in 390 BCE. The Aequians and some Etruscan towns found themselves the victims of sudden assaults. Payback is a bitch! Our Players - 388 BCE Military Tribunes with Consular Power T. Quinctius (T. f. L. n.) Cincinnatus Capitolinus (Pat) Mil. Tr. c.p. 385?, 384 Q. Servilius Q. f. P. n. Fidenas (Pat) Mil. Tr. c.p. 402, 398, 395, 390, 386 L. Iulius -f. -n. Iullus (Pat) Mil. Tr. c.p. 379 L. Aquilius -f. -n. Corvus L. Lucretius -f. -n. Flavus Tricipitinus (Pat) Cos. Suff. 393, Mil. Tr. c.p. 391, 383, 381 Ser. Sulpicius – f. -n. Rufus (Pat) Mil. Tr. c.p. 384, 383, 377? For our full show notes and edited transcripts, head on over to https://partialhistorians.com/ Support the show Patreon Ko-Fi Read our books Rex: The Seven Kings of Rome Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  7. 28 may

    The Emperor Julian with Jeremy Swist

    The Emperor Julian with Jeremy Swist We are thrilled to welcome Assistant Professor Jeremy Swist back to the show to discuss all things emperor Julian! Julian’s rule as Roman emperor was short, but it also created quite a stir because Julian was keen to turn Rome away from Christianity and to bring back the paganism. How did he do it? Why did he do it? And what’s the legacy that he left behind? We consider the details. Jeremy Swist has a PhD in Classics from the University of Iowa, and his research interests include imperial Greek and Roman historiography and rhetoric, late antiquity, classical reception in heavy metal music. He is currently Assistant Professor of Classical Studies at Michigan State University. Jeremy has published and presented extensively, and he has a particular interest in the intersection of heavy metal music and the classical world - we suggest you check out his blog, Heavy Metal Classicist, or our previous episode with him to find out more. In 2024, he translated and produced a dramatic reading of the Emperor Julian's Symposium of the Caesars, which starred some of the finest podcasters and actors in the WORLD! (Maybe us) The Emperor Julian, who ruled Rome between 361 and 363 CE, is one of Jeremy’s great passions, and we are thrilled to talk to him about his new volume on this unusual ruler. The book is published by Oxford University Press and is entitled Julian Augustus: Platonism, Myth, and the Refounding of Rome. Abstract from Oxford University Press“The Roman emperor Julian employed both words and deeds to return the empire to paganism and reverse Christianization, inspired by his conversion to the Neoplatonic philosophy and radical pagan Hellenism of Iamblichus, and promoted by his own production of Greek literature. These works present a coherent vision of the providentially guided history and destiny of Rome as a series of (re)foundations enacted by rulers such as Romulus, Numa, and Augustus. Julian offers an Iamblichean approach to interpreting Roman legends, Platonic allegories, and myths of his own creation to articulate his own role in the refounding of the empire. Approaching the wider examination of Julian’s imperial self-image on these terms ends up nuancing and challenging common assumptions influenced by the rhetoric of his contemporary proponents. In his reverence for the gods and for philosophy, the emperor’s self-construction embraces the identities of a statesman and solider more than philosopher, Roman more than Greek, and mere human rather than semi-divine being. Julian’s unique positionality as emperor let him invert the conventions of panegyric whereby rulers equal and surpass the demigods and heroes of myth and history. While distancing himself from the ideal models of virtue and founding that inspire him, he adopts a different set of exemplary figures as mirrors of himself. Statesmen such as Pericles and Scipio, and especially Augustus, serve as precedents for Julian’s more realistic conception of his role in refounding the empire, as student and champion of philosophers, guardian of law and tradition, and servant of the gods.”The return to the old godsJulian's rule was short but it left quite an impact. We chat with Jeremy about some of the ideas Julian put forward about Rome, the foundation stories that underpinned its self-definition, and what might have been if weren't for an unfortunate spear that wounded Julian and ended his life just two years into his reign. Sound CreditsOur music is by the superb Bettina Joy de Guzman. For our full show notes and edited transcripts, head on over to https://partialhistorians.com/ Support the show Patreon Ko-Fi Read our books Rex: The Seven Kings of Rome Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  8. 14 may

    Nobody Beats Camillus

    We return to 389 BCE to see just how Rome recovered from the Gallic Sack. Camillus is dictator in Rome and Ahala is his trusty master of the horse. It’s time for Rome to make things right in their immediate area. There are a bunch of neighbours to deal with, including the Etruscans, the Volscians, and the Aequians. We’re in a hazy period where our sources appear out of sync with each other. Livy offers the most fulsome narrative that has survived for this period whereas sources like Diodorus Siculus and Dionysius of Halicarnassus are fragmentary or have their focus elsewhere. The Power of CamillusBy this time, Camillus’ reputation is so cemented in the region that his mere presence at the head of a military is enough to leave their enemies shaken if not stirred. The Volscians are certainly not happy when Camillus and crew turn up on their doorstep. When Camillus turns up at the city of Bolae of the Aequians, will they also fall at his feet? Things to listen out forBurning ramparts!Booty and payment of soldiers?Seventy years of conflict with the Volscians?Deditio - total and unconditional surrenderCentral Italy as the site of a zombie apocalypseA very fast back and forth of city taking - hello, Sutrium!The survival of the scared hut to Mars on the PalatineThe Tyrant of Syracuse is back for our ‘Meanwhile in Sicily’ segmentPhiloxenus, the dithyrambic poetPlato’s sojourn to Sicily For our full show notes and edited transcripts, head on over to https://partialhistorians.com/ Support the show Patreon Ko-Fi Read our books Rex: The Seven Kings of Rome Your Cheeky Guide to the Roman Empire Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Join Dr Rad and Dr G as we discuss, spar, and laugh our way through different aspects of the ancient Roman world! Our main series 'From the Foundation of the City' follows Roman history year by year from the traditional foundation date of 753 BCE. We also interview academics and specialists from around the globe for their insights into history and the representation of Rome and the ancient Mediterranean in popular culture. Dr Fiona Radford is an expert on Rome on film and wrote her thesis on Kubrick’s Spartacus. Dr Radford is exponent of not only Ancient History, but also Reception Studies. Dr Peta Greenfield is an expert on the Vestal Virgins. Dr Greenfield’s research interests include: religion and politics in Rome, the late republic and Augustan period, and the role of women. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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